[DeTomaso] Kurt Busch Pantera-- wow!
Richard Greenblum
richard at richardgreenblum.com
Wed Nov 29 11:30:30 EST 2017
Agree with you Jeff. The all-of-the-sudden drop in speed by the Cobra was
severe and it looked like either the fuel pump failed at just the right time
for him to finish second or he had to let off due to a script. From
Logano¹s demeanor after the race, and lack of complaints about his car
failing him, I think it¹s obvious it was staged. I shared offices with an
entertainment lawyer who represents a production company that puts out some
of the reality programs you¹ve either seen or heard of. To no one¹s
surprise, they are scripted. The stories he¹s told me about things that
have happened filming them are hilariously stupid.
Richard
Austin, TX
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Jeff
Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 10:13
Cc: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Kurt Busch Pantera-- wow!
Some thoughts. The Cobra kicked ass thru most of the race but was
passed at the end by the Pantera. As with most reality TV, don't you
think that it had to be staged to let him by.
They got the car from Richard's buddy and partner for $125k. Insider
deal at Kurt's expense? Especially since they claimed they couldn't
find a suitable car for 2 weeks and then they had to do a lot of
bodywork to take care of rust.
Did you see where they cut the frame rail to mount the starter. They
cut out a 6 inch side of the rail.
What do you think happens when you shorten the lower A-arm to keep the
rear tire from rubbing?
You gotta wonder how long that paint job is going to hold up. Seeing it
peel at the corner of the bonnet can't be good.
Lastly, I think they said they were going to run Nascar cars on this
road course next year. Sure doesn't seem like an appropriate track
design for those cars.
Jeff
6559
On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 3:00 PM, JFFR <[1]pantera at vtc.net> wrote:
A A Not a big fan of just because he paid for it it is just fine to
ruin an
A A almost perfect example of a limited piece of art. Are you ok
with some
A A one buying a Van Gogh and painting dogs playing poker over the
panting
A A ? Couldn't care less about the devaluation or increased value
of his
A A car or the markee. To me it is a complete waste of destroying
something
A A that can never be recreated to make something else out of it
rather
A A than having the creatively and passion to creating something
new.
A A The Kurt Bush Pantera isn't the first Pantera that was turned
into a
A A race car. I agree that taking a nice car and doing that to it
doesn't
A A make sense, but it was still his car and his money. If the car
had been
A A a junker, then I think there would be less concern about what
he did. A
A A Pantera certainly isn't a Van Gogh and through the years many
cars have
A A been upgraded and modified. Certainly not to the degree that
the Bush
A A car was, but changed never the less. I for one drive my Pantera
quite a
A A bit and have for the last 40 years. Some of the things that I
don't
A A want to go back to is standing on my head to change ignition
points, an
A A electrical system that never really worked right, a totally gut
less
A A engine and gauges that were only a guideline of what was
actually going
A A on. Then there were the original Ariva tires that the car came
with.
A A That was a driving experience that I never want to visit again!
The
A A list actually is longer, but the long term Pantera owner's
basically
A A know what the issues are. The bottom line is that people change
these
A A cars for better or for worse. Certainly the totally original
cars are
A A appreciated perhaps more than ever before, but who and where do
we say
A A what modifications are acceptable and what ones are not?
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Agree with you Jeff. The all-of-the-sudden drop in speed by the Cobra
was severe and it looked like either the fuel pump failed at just the
right time for him to finish second or he had to let off due to a
script. From Logano's demeanor after the race, and lack of complaints
about his car failing him, I think it's obvious it was staged. I
shared offices with an entertainment lawyer who represents a production
company that puts out some of the reality programs you've either seen
or heard of. To no one's surprise, they are scripted. The stories
he's told me about things that have happened filming them are
hilariously stupid.
Richard
Austin, TX
From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
of Jeff Detrich <[2]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 10:13
Cc: <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Kurt Busch Pantera-- wow!
Some thoughts. The Cobra kicked ass thru most of the race but was
passed at the end by the Pantera. As with most reality TV, don't you
think that it had to be staged to let him by.
They got the car from Richard's buddy and partner for $125k. Insider
deal at Kurt's expense? Especially since they claimed they couldn't
find a suitable car for 2 weeks and then they had to do a lot of
bodywork to take care of rust.
Did you see where they cut the frame rail to mount the starter. They
cut out a 6 inch side of the rail.
What do you think happens when you shorten the lower A-arm to keep
the
rear tire from rubbing?
You gotta wonder how long that paint job is going to hold up. Seeing
it
peel at the corner of the bonnet can't be good.
Lastly, I think they said they were going to run Nascar cars on this
road course next year. Sure doesn't seem like an appropriate track
design for those cars.
Jeff
6559
On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 3:00 PM, JFFR <[1][4]pantera at vtc.net> wrote:
A A Not a big fan of just because he paid for it it is just fine
to
ruin an
A A almost perfect example of a limited piece of art. Are you ok
with some
A A one buying a Van Gogh and painting dogs playing poker over
the
panting
A A ? Couldn't care less about the devaluation or increased value
of his
A A car or the markee. To me it is a complete waste of destroying
something
A A that can never be recreated to make something else out of it
rather
A A than having the creatively and passion to creating something
new.
A A The Kurt Bush Pantera isn't the first Pantera that was turned
into a
A A race car. I agree that taking a nice car and doing that to it
doesn't
A A make sense, but it was still his car and his money. If the
car
had been
A A a junker, then I think there would be less concern about what
he did. A
A A Pantera certainly isn't a Van Gogh and through the years many
cars have
A A been upgraded and modified. Certainly not to the degree that
the Bush
A A car was, but changed never the less. I for one drive my
Pantera
quite a
A A bit and have for the last 40 years. Some of the things that I
don't
A A want to go back to is standing on my head to change ignition
points, an
A A electrical system that never really worked right, a totally
gut
less
A A engine and gauges that were only a guideline of what was
actually going
A A on. Then there were the original Ariva tires that the car
came
with.
A A That was a driving experience that I never want to visit
again!
The
A A list actually is longer, but the long term Pantera owner's
basically
A A know what the issues are. The bottom line is that people
change
these
A A cars for better or for worse. Certainly the totally original
cars are
A A appreciated perhaps more than ever before, but who and where
do
we say
A A what modifications are acceptable and what ones are not?
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