[DeTomaso] Kurt Busch Pantera-- wow!

[Jeff Detrich]

Some thoughts. The Cobra kicked ass thru most of the race but was passed at
the end by the Pantera. As with most reality TV, don't you think that it
had to be staged to let him by.

They got the car from Richard's buddy and partner for $125k. Insider deal
at Kurt's expense? Especially since they claimed they couldn't find a
suitable car for 2 weeks and then they had to do a lot of bodywork to take
care of rust.

Did you see where they cut the frame rail to mount the starter. They cut
out a 6 inch side of the rail.

What do you think happens when you shorten the lower A-arm to keep the rear
tire from rubbing?

You gotta wonder how long that paint job is going to hold up. Seeing it
peel at the corner of the bonnet can't be good.

Lastly, I think they said they were going to run Nascar cars on this road
course next year. Sure doesn't seem like an appropriate track design for
those cars.

Jeff
6559

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 3:00 PM, JFFR <pantera at vtc.net> wrote:

>    Not a big fan of just because he paid for it it is just fine to ruin an
>    almost perfect example of a limited piece of art. Are you ok with some
>    one buying a Van Gogh and painting dogs playing poker over the panting
>    ? Couldn't care less about the devaluation or increased value of his
>    car or the markee. To me it is a complete waste of destroying something
>    that can never be recreated to make something else out of it rather
>    than having the creatively and passion to creating something new.
>    The Kurt Bush Pantera isn't the first Pantera that was turned into a
>    race car. I agree that taking a nice car and doing that to it doesn't
>    make sense, but it was still his car and his money. If the car had been
>    a junker, then I think there would be less concern about what he did. A
>    Pantera certainly isn't a Van Gogh and through the years many cars have
>    been upgraded and modified. Certainly not to the degree that the Bush
>    car was, but changed never the less. I for one drive my Pantera quite a
>    bit and have for the last 40 years. Some of the things that I don't
>    want to go back to is standing on my head to change ignition points, an
>    electrical system that never really worked right, a totally gut less
>    engine and gauges that were only a guideline of what was actually going
>    on. Then there were the original Ariva tires that the car came with.
>    That was a driving experience that I never want to visit again! The
>    list actually is longer, but the long term Pantera owner's basically
>    know what the issues are. The bottom line is that people change these
>    cars for better or for worse. Certainly the totally original cars are
>    appreciated perhaps more than ever before, but who and where do we say
>    what modifications are acceptable and what ones are not?
>
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   Some thoughts. The Cobra kicked ass thru most of the race but was
   passed at the end by the Pantera. As with most reality TV, don't you
   think that it had to be staged to let him by.
   They got the car from Richard's buddy and partner for $125k. Insider
   deal at Kurt's expense? Especially since they claimed they couldn't
   find a suitable car for 2 weeks and then they had to do a lot of
   bodywork to take care of rust.
   Did you see where they cut the frame rail to mount the starter. They
   cut out a 6 inch side of the rail.
   What do you think happens when you shorten the lower A-arm to keep the
   rear tire from rubbing?
   You gotta wonder how long that paint job is going to hold up. Seeing it
   peel at the corner of the bonnet can't be good.
   Lastly, I think they said they were going to run Nascar cars on this
   road course next year. Sure doesn't seem like an appropriate track
   design for those cars.
   Jeff
   6559

   On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 3:00 PM, JFFR <[1]pantera at vtc.net> wrote:

     A  A Not a big fan of just because he paid for it it is just fine to
     ruin an
     A  A almost perfect example of a limited piece of art. Are you ok
     with some
     A  A one buying a Van Gogh and painting dogs playing poker over the
     panting
     A  A ? Couldn't care less about the devaluation or increased value
     of his
     A  A car or the markee. To me it is a complete waste of destroying
     something
     A  A that can never be recreated to make something else out of it
     rather
     A  A than having the creatively and passion to creating something
     new.
     A  A The Kurt Bush Pantera isn't the first Pantera that was turned
     into a
     A  A race car. I agree that taking a nice car and doing that to it
     doesn't
     A  A make sense, but it was still his car and his money. If the car
     had been
     A  A a junker, then I think there would be less concern about what
     he did. A
     A  A Pantera certainly isn't a Van Gogh and through the years many
     cars have
     A  A been upgraded and modified. Certainly not to the degree that
     the Bush
     A  A car was, but changed never the less. I for one drive my Pantera
     quite a
     A  A bit and have for the last 40 years. Some of the things that I
     don't
     A  A want to go back to is standing on my head to change ignition
     points, an
     A  A electrical system that never really worked right, a totally gut
     less
     A  A engine and gauges that were only a guideline of what was
     actually going
     A  A on. Then there were the original Ariva tires that the car came
     with.
     A  A That was a driving experience that I never want to visit again!
     The
     A  A list actually is longer, but the long term Pantera owner's
     basically
     A  A know what the issues are. The bottom line is that people change
     these
     A  A cars for better or for worse. Certainly the totally original
     cars are
     A  A appreciated perhaps more than ever before, but who and where do
     we say
     A  A what modifications are acceptable and what ones are not?
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