[DeTomaso] Kurt Busch Pantera-- wow!

Ken Green kenn_green at yahoo.com
Sun Nov 26 17:41:39 EST 2017


Maybe someone with decent credentials could contact Kurt Busch and ask If he has any conclusions or recommendations as a result of his Pantera build experience?  
Ken

      From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
 To: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>; "grayjim at cox.net" <grayjim at cox.net>; "audionut at hushmail.com" <audionut at hushmail.com>; ehpantera <ehpantera at yahoo.com> 
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 Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 8:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Kurt Busch Pantera-- wow!
   
I actually don’t like what they did.  The 5.0 Coyote is pretty cool, but
the rest looks pretty amateur.

The air intakes look like an attempt to avoid doing what the Pantera
owners have been doing for years (ducting from the elephant ear intakes).

The exhaust goes up and over the ZF, but then they exit out the stock
location.  Seriously guys?  The A/C outlet is an obvious exhaust exit.

The front looks okay.  I get it that they need to do something to send the
air where it needs to go, but the body work looks like tacked on racing
junk.

The rear deck lid wing is one of the best looking wings on Panteras.  At
least they got that part right.

You can’t improve much on the Mad Dawg racing Pantera as far as good looks
and being functional (or Larry Stock’s or Dennis Quella’s for that matter).


On 11/22/17, 1:20 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Himes, Terry (397C)"
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

>Wow! That is a great idea!  I’m not one of those guys, but there is lots
>of money for financing
>out there. It doesn’t have to come from personal pockets. The problem is
>the Trademark. I 
>know there are lawyers in the club. ;-)  Cut the China guys in on the
>deal, and make it happen.
>
>What the club has is enthusiasm and expertise. The knowledge experts can
>make it work! I would
>invest in that company!
>
>Terry
>
>
>"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
> 
>Terry W. Himes 
>JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>Dawn Spacecraft Team
>Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>Phone: (818) 393-6261
>Cell:    (818) 653-8213
>thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>🇺🇸
> 
>
>On 11/22/17, 9:49 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of grayjim at cox.net"
><detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of grayjim at cox.net>
>wrote:
>
>    What we really need is for for some of you guys with deep pockets
>(you know who you are) to step up, put together a company to do a limited
>run of maybe 25 clones of the Busch car.  Our marque needs a good shot in
>the arm and I don't think it will come from China.
>    
>    Just my..02
>    
>    Jim Gray
>    
>    
>    ---- ehpantera via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>    > We all knew the Panetta would win.
>    
>    
>    Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>    -------- Original message --------From: audionut at hushmail.com Date:
>11/19/17  7:41 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Kurt Busch Pantera--  wow!
>    This car looks badass.  Kurt must have had a hand in it.  The Gas
>    Monkeys have never built anything that I like as much as this.  What
>    a relief, yet another zinger of a Pantera is now out there and kicking
>    butt. 
>    Sent using Hushmail
>    On November 17, 2017 at 6:52 PM, "Michael Cox"  wrote:A couple pics
>    from the Ford Motorsports weekly email. I'm sure being
>    a factory Ford driver gets him a nice discount on parts.
>    
>    Joey Logano, Brad Keselowski, Greg Biffle and Kurt Busch all have
>    Ford GTs, not sure if they are company cars or if they were
>    purchased.
>    
>    
>http://performance.ford.com/series/stock-car-racing/news/articles/stock-ca
>r-racing/2017/11/kurt-busch-pantera.html
>      --mike
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   Maybe someone with decent credentials could contact Kurt Busch and ask
   If he has any conclusions or recommendations as a result of his Pantera
   build experience?
   Ken
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   To: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>; "grayjim at cox.net"
   <grayjim at cox.net>; "audionut at hushmail.com" <audionut at hushmail.com>;
   ehpantera <ehpantera at yahoo.com>
   Cc: ehpantera via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 8:01 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Kurt Busch Pantera-- wow!
   I actually donat like what they did.  The 5.0 Coyote is pretty cool,
   but
   the rest looks pretty amateur.
   The air intakes look like an attempt to avoid doing what the Pantera
   owners have been doing for years (ducting from the elephant ear
   intakes).
   The exhaust goes up and over the ZF, but then they exit out the stock
   location.  Seriously guys?  The A/C outlet is an obvious exhaust exit.
   The front looks okay.  I get it that they need to do something to send
   the
   air where it needs to go, but the body work looks like tacked on racing
   junk.
   The rear deck lid wing is one of the best looking wings on Panteras.
   At
   least they got that part right.
   You canat improve much on the Mad Dawg racing Pantera as far as good
   looks
   and being functional (or Larry Stockas or Dennis Quellaas for that
   matter).
   On 11/22/17, 1:20 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Himes, Terry (397C)"
   <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   [2]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
   >Wow! That is a great idea!  Iam not one of those guys, but there is
   lots
   >of money for financing
   >out there. It doesnat have to come from personal pockets. The problem
   is
   >the Trademark. I
   >know there are lawyers in the club. ;-)  Cut the China guys in on the
   >deal, and make it happen.
   >
   >What the club has is enthusiasm and expertise. The knowledge experts
   can
   >make it work! I would
   >invest in that company!
   >
   >Terry
   >
   >
   >"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
   > stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
   >
   >Terry W. Himes
   >JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   >Dawn Spacecraft Team
   >Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
   >Phone: (818) 393-6261
   >Cell:    (818) 653-8213
   >[3]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   >d--od-,
   >
   >
   >On 11/22/17, 9:49 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of [4]grayjim at cox.net"
   ><[5]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   [6]grayjim at cox.net>
   >wrote:
   >
   >    What we really need is for for some of you guys with deep pockets
   >(you know who you are) to step up, put together a company to do a
   limited
   >run of maybe 25 clones of the Busch car.  Our marque needs a good shot
   in
   >the arm and I don't think it will come from China.
   >
   >    Just my..02
   >
   >    Jim Gray
   >
   >
   >    ---- ehpantera via DeTomaso <[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   wrote:
   >    > We all knew the Panetta would win.
   >
   >
   >    Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
   >    -------- Original message --------From: [8]audionut at hushmail.com
   Date:
   >11/19/17  7:41 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Kurt Busch Pantera--  wow!
   >    This car looks badass.  Kurt must have had a hand in it.  The Gas
   >    Monkeys have never built anything that I like as much as this.
   What
   >    a relief, yet another zinger of a Pantera is now out there and
   kicking
   >    butt.
   >    Sent using Hushmail
   >    On November 17, 2017 at 6:52 PM, "Michael Cox"  wrote:A couple
   pics
   >    from the Ford Motorsports weekly email. I'm sure being
   >    a factory Ford driver gets him a nice discount on parts.
   >
   >    Joey Logano, Brad Keselowski, Greg Biffle and Kurt Busch all have
   >    Ford GTs, not sure if they are company cars or if they were
   >    purchased.
   >
   >
   >[10]http://performance.ford.com/series/stock-car-racing/news/articles/
   stock-ca
   >r-racing/2017/11/kurt-busch-pantera.html
   >      --mike
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