[DeTomaso] Latest DeTomaso Rumor

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Sat May 27 21:15:36 EDT 2017


What's the latest from Mr Tom Kim and the new Pantera?
Has any car pics showed up since last month?
Cheers Bjoern 


> Den 25. apr. 2017 kl. 10.46 skrev Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>:
> 
>   Mr Tom Kim is going to speak at this years Fun Rally in Monterey, just
>   confirmed now. So you'll have to register and be there to see what he
>   has to say. He will also be racing at Laguna Seca in his SCCA car on
>   Saturday and wants to hang out with us., not sure what car that will
>   be...
> 
>   Be there or be square.
> 
>   :-)
> 
>   Ed
> 
>   On Apr 25, 2017, at 01:51, Charles McCall <[1]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
>   wrote:
> 
>     Julian, if the intention was to get debate going on the list then I
>     suppose it worked!
>     This is only the 4th or 5th time that someone has said production is
>     right around the corner, so while I'd like to see it happen I'm also
>     cautious. You bring up some very good points using common sense and
>     logic that make this plan rather unlikely. I also wonder, if they are
>     going through this trouble, why not make the body style of the Si,
>     which is much more exclusive than the 5-S?
>     It's a shame because I think that the plan COULD work. The DeTomaso
>     name has certain value and if some upstart company wanted to market
>     their supercar they might have more luck using a known name instead
>   of
>     starting from scratch. I don't mean to say that it's easy, just that
>   it
>     is viable...
>     On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 6:21 AM, Julian Kift
>     <[1][2]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>       I reckon it's someone's idea for getting discussion going on the
>       list! I'd love to see a new modern Pantera replacement butA
>       analyzing what has been posted publicly online regarding this
>       venture just doesn't seem to stack up.
>       Here's what I got from the online postings;
>       200 people have committed to a car that will be priced $275k to
>       $325k without as much as seeing a prototype? Firstly, who pays
>       $275k+ for a pseudo copy of a car that is available for $200-250k
>       for the original? I would think an original GT5-S still has some
>       investment upside, but a Chinese knock off?
>       At $275k+ it is competing with some real exotics and an 2005/6 Ford
>       GT can be had for the cost of this new Dim Sun Tomaso. Equally a
>       good Pantera and 5S steel kit can be had and installed for half of
>       the cost.
>       With the investment required for a true structural carbon fiber
>       body, I have to thin this will be a space frame with composite
>       panels i.e. a modern rendition of a Long & Newman Pantera! I wonder
>       wether it will even be with lightweight autoclave structural panels
>       or just a carbon overlay like the decklids available today?
>       So apparently the new GT5-S will use a Ricardo 6 speed, a
>       discontinued gearbox no longer supported by the manufacturer and
>       which is currently fetching a premium for the Ford GT guys due to
>       almost zero availability and no spares! Yet 325 new Pantera's will
>       be built with one. We know from current projects that the Ricardo
>       does not fit between the frame rails which require widening, but
>       apparently this new GT5-S will be 8 inches longer in the rear than
>       the original to accommodate the power train?
>       All that expense and it still has an old school Roush motor and no
>       flappy paddle shifter, what is the attraction? Many US modifiers
>   are
>       taking more modern engines and dropping them into Pantera's to get
>       modern reliability. Any manufacturer of sanity who did their
>       marketing homework would likely be going with a Coyote (or better
>       still a Voodoo) engine.
>       Who is it going to appeal to? I don't believe a Chinese focused
>       market would be building in S. Africa.
>       Safety testing is being carried out in South Africa, which bears no
>       meaning in the US. If brought in as a 'roller' less engine and
>       gearbox as Superformance does then it would have to be offered for
>       sale and titled as a self assembled vehicle. Surely that would
>   leave
>       choice of power train up to the individual purchaser? A
>   manufacturer
>       assembled car would need to meet stringent safety and emissions
>       standards especially one assembled in the great republic of
>       California!
>       All that said Steve Wilkinson is an astute business man so maybe
>       something got lost in translation, it sure would be nice for him to
>       clear the air with a statement.
>       Julian
> 
>     On Apr 24, 2017, at 12:46 PM, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
> 
>       <[2][3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> 
>     All,
>     The anewa Chinese logo is the same one the Italian scam artists,
> 
>       the ones taken to court for fraud, introduced.
> 
>     So nothing new there. Old news repackaged.
>     I, like many owners, are linked into numerous car-guy blogs,
> 
>       websites and media reports. How can such a project, (remember, with
>       200 cars already spoken for), possibly have avoided any previous
>       announcement yet have so many pre-availability purchasers?A  With
>       just one aknowna prototype, but no public photos, no press
>   releases,
>       and nothing of this project previously posted in the POCA and PIBB
>       forums, HOW are we supposed to believe that 200 a|TWO HUNDREDa| of
>       this imaginary car have already been spoken for?
> 
>     Iall believe the reality off this Chinese Pantera about the same
> 
>       time I have a nuclear-powerred flying car parked in my driveway.
> 
>     NOT holding my breatha|..
>     Larry
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