[DeTomaso] SS ZF linkage turnbuckle???
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Tue May 23 08:27:08 EDT 2017
I converted my 1968 Mustang to a Flamming River manual rack and pinion which used the Flamming River u-joints. Over many years never had a problem with them loosening.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Stock" <larrys at panteraparts.com>
To: "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, fresnofinches at aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 5:22:56 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] SS ZF linkage turnbuckle???
That makes more sense, I thought something was wrong, guess it was just my
reading, but you still have to spline it and to do that you still need a
broach. Still not east by any means but a lot simpler than to make a U
Joint. The ends are solid, machined then Broached, then they can be welded
and ground to both ends of the Adjusting rod. Might be just as easy to
drill and tap the solid rod than to use a tube and cut out the welding and
grinding phase. Whats a few extra ounces of steel amongst friends.
Larry
On 5/22/17, 2:17 PM, "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>Larry,
>
>The 'fabricate it' comment was in response to Larry Finch's request for a
>turnbuckle, not the splined U-joints where he has the Flaming River
>pieces and wanted a stainless turnbuckle to match.
>
>Julian
>
>> On May 22, 2017, at 1:24 PM, Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>> Maybe I¹m the wrong Larry here. I don¹t understand this concept, maybe
>> start with some forging¹s. I don¹t even think using SS Tubing is even
>> feasible here so I probably shouldn¹t even respond. Easy to fabricate
>>is
>> not at all true. Jack, you know what it took just to fit new bearings
>>into
>> existing U-joints, not easy at all. Then it is not easy to have proper
>> Broaching capabilities in their region to broach the ID Splines. Then
>>you
>> have the issues to engineer a locking nut mechanism, and then you add
>>the
>> liability of attaching a couple of these to your steering shaft
>>mechanism,
>> another good reason for US manufactures to buy oversea¹s to limit your
>>USA
>> product liability. Do it yourself so the owner is responsible, then
>>cavat
>> emptor.
>> Larry Stock
>>
>> On 5/22/17, 12:10 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso"
>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Fabricate it, Larry- you have all the specs and its only a chunk of
>>> thickwall ss tubing tapped correctly. Any good machine shop should be
>>> able to knock one out in an afternoon. If you're going for bling, I've
>>> also seen the stock one successfully chromed.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>> To: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>> Sent: Sun, May 21, 2017 10:08 pm
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] SS ZF linkage turnbuckle???
>>> All,
>>> Does anyone have a source for a stainless steel turnbuckle and
>>> adjusting nuts for the ZF shift linkage?
>>> I am upgrading to the stainless steel flaming river u-joints and
>>> thought a stainless turnbuckle would be a good match.
>>> I have searched for turnbuckle, screwjack, tie rod adjusting sleeve. I
>>> have searched at McMaster Carr, aircraft Spruce, multiple suspension
>>> websites, multiple Heim joint sites and I come up with nothing.
>>> Thread size is M14x1.5 LH/RH female threads
>>> Anyone got anything?
>>> Larry
>>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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I converted my 1968 Mustang to a Flamming River manual rack and pinion
which used the Flamming River u-joints. Over many years never had a
problem with them loosening.
Steve
__________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry Stock" <larrys at panteraparts.com>
To: "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, fresnofinches at aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 5:22:56 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] SS ZF linkage turnbuckle???
That makes more sense, I thought something was wrong, guess it was just
my
reading, but you still have to spline it and to do that you still need
a
broach. Still not east by any means but a lot simpler than to make a U
Joint. The ends are solid, machined then Broached, then they can be
welded
and ground to both ends of the Adjusting rod. Might be just as easy to
drill and tap the solid rod than to use a tube and cut out the welding
and
grinding phase. Whats a few extra ounces of steel amongst friends.
Larry
On 5/22/17, 2:17 PM, "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>Larry,
>
>The 'fabricate it' comment was in response to Larry Finch's request
for a
>turnbuckle, not the splined U-joints where he has the Flaming River
>pieces and wanted a stainless turnbuckle to match.
>
>Julian
>
>> On May 22, 2017, at 1:24 PM, Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>> Maybe IA^1m the wrong Larry here. I donA^1t understand this concept,
maybe
>> start with some forgingA^1s. I donA^1t even think using SS Tubing is
even
>> feasible here so I probably shouldnA^1t even respond. Easy to
fabricate
>>is
>> not at all true. Jack, you know what it took just to fit new
bearings
>>into
>> existing U-joints, not easy at all. Then it is not easy to have
proper
>> Broaching capabilities in their region to broach the ID Splines.
Then
>>you
>> have the issues to engineer a locking nut mechanism, and then you
add
>>the
>> liability of attaching a couple of these to your steering shaft
>>mechanism,
>> another good reason for US manufactures to buy overseaA^1s to limit
your
>>USA
>> product liability. Do it yourself so the owner is responsible, then
>>cavat
>> emptor.
>> Larry Stock
>>
>> On 5/22/17, 12:10 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Jack DeRyke via
DeTomaso"
>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Fabricate it, Larry- you have all the specs and its only a chunk
of
>>> thickwall ss tubing tapped correctly. Any good machine shop should
be
>>> able to knock one out in an afternoon. If you're going for bling,
I've
>>> also seen the stock one successfully chromed.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Larry Finch via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>> To: Email List Address For Posting
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>> Sent: Sun, May 21, 2017 10:08 pm
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] SS ZF linkage turnbuckle???
>>> All,
>>> Does anyone have a source for a stainless steel turnbuckle and
>>> adjusting nuts for the ZF shift linkage?
>>> I am upgrading to the stainless steel flaming river u-joints and
>>> thought a stainless turnbuckle would be a good match.
>>> I have searched for turnbuckle, screwjack, tie rod adjusting
sleeve. I
>>> have searched at McMaster Carr, aircraft Spruce, multiple
suspension
>>> websites, multiple Heim joint sites and I come up with nothing.
>>> Thread size is M14x1.5 LH/RH female threads
>>> Anyone got anything?
>>> Larry
>>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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