[DeTomaso] Group 4 "CANDY" car stolen
Rob Dumoulin
rob at dumoulins.net
Wed May 10 09:44:03 EDT 2017
Along a similar line, my credit card company suspected fraud for
transactions in California while I was also using it in Florida. The
transactions were at a gas station, a shoe store twice in one day, and at a
pharmacy before they cut it off. It was a minor inconvenience waiting for
two days for a new card, but I was curious and called the stores directly.
The shoe store and gas station stated they captured the thief on
surveillance but police were never called because it was all handled by the
credit card company. The pharmacy would not give me any information, so I
don't know about that but it was a national chain and I assume they have
video too.
I called the credit card company to let them know what I found and the
fraud department said they do not pursue if under a threshold. $200 comes
to mind, but it has been a while.
It's not about you or your property. It's about time and money. If losses
are lower than a threshold it is just a write off. If property is insured,
it is a low police priority. Sad but true that crooks probably know this
and get away with it but karma and stupidity on their part should end up
getting them caught eventually.
My brother in college had a nice stereo which when he came home for breaks
he would open up the case and remove internal fuses making the amplifier
not turn on. He also had a note inside saying it was his property and if
found, please call him. The rat bastard thief stole the amplifier and
other items too. The amp ended up at a repair shop where the tech called
my brother and the guy got arrested and most of the property returned.
This is a wake up call for sure to add a hidden kill switch or ability to
otherwise make it very difficult to get away with such a thing.
Rob
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:
> The laws are fine but selectively enforced. It used to be whether or
> not you were "connected" but not so much anymore. Now they only look
> at it to see if it looks like work. If it does, it's probably not
> worth the trouble because there are so many easy perps out there
> without lawyers.
>
> I really hope they nail these guys to the wall though! That is some
> ugly business.
>
> sean
>
> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Effie Richards
> <erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com> wrote:
> > I can share those thoughts with you, about thieves.... and litter slugs.
> > Sometimes our laws don't make sense.
> >
> >
> > Sent from Effie's iPad
> >
> >> On May 9, 2017, at 8:14 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Thieves are the only people I hate more than littering.
> >>
> >> Is that weird? You¹d think I¹d hate rapist or cat jugglers or
> something.
> >>
> >> I can¹t explain it. It¹s just one of those buttons that sets me off.
> >>
> >> Thieves, and especially car thieves, have a special place in hell.
> >>
> >> When the cops wouldn¹t talk to the guys that stole my car, all sorts of
> >> things went through my head - none of them legal. Luckily, sanity
> >> prevailed, and I moved on.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 5/9/17, 2:55 PM, "Larry - Ohio Time" <Larry at OhioTimeCorp.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I had my credit card number stolen and they bought 2 tickets to Las
> Vegas
> >>> and stayed in the MGM for a week. The airline had photo ID's for them
> and
> >>> no
> >>> one did anything.
> >>>
> >>> Now when they caught the guy who stole my T-Bird he got 2 years, but
> that
> >>> was in the 90's...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Larry (sad) - Cleveland
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf
> >>> Of Will Kooiman
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 12:38 PM
> >>> To: Ken Green
> >>> Cc: Detomaso Email List
> >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Group 4 "CANDY" car stolen
> >>>
> >>> It will be parted out and the shell dumped.
> >>>
> >>> My 1993 mustang cobra was stolen 3 times. Twice I found out who did
> it.
> >>> Cops and insurance didn't care. They refused to investigate. They
> said,
> >>> what do you care? It's covered.
> >>>
> >>> Insurance rebuilt it twice, and totaled it the last time.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On May 8, 2017, at 6:24 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
> >>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Must be the Russians. We blame everything on them?
> >>>> Ken
> >>>> __________________________________________________________________
> >>>>
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> >>>> Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 3:09 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Group 4 "CANDY" car stolen
> >>>> Belgium has been invaded, sorry to hear. I hope
> >>>> it shows up soon!
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]https://www.facebook.com/pages/slickpaintcom/129049637149
> 634?ref=ts&
> >>>> fref=ts
> >>>> If you want it slick. www.slickpaint.com like us on facebook
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Charles McCall <[2]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> >>>>> Sent: May 8, 2017 3:12 PM
> >>>>> To: Detomaso Email List <[3]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
> >>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Group 4 "CANDY" car stolen
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is the craziest thing I have ever heard.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Pat Hals reports that his Factory Group 4 Pantera, chassis 2862, was
> >>>>> stolen from his garage over the past few days.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is a very high profile car, very well known, so I can't imagine
> >>>>> what the thief is thinking. They can't use it anywhere without
> >>>> someone
> >>>>> noticing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But there you have it - if you see strange offers for a Factory
> >>>> Group 4
> >>>>> car, please know that something is afoot
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Along a similar line, my credit card company suspected fraud for
transactions in California while I was also using it in Florida. The
transactions were at a gas station, a shoe store twice in one day, and
at a pharmacy before they cut it off.A It was a minor inconvenience
waiting for two days for a new card, but I was curious and called the
stores directly.A The shoe store and gas station stated they captured
the thief on surveillance but police were never called because it was
all handled by the credit card company. The pharmacy would not give me
any information, so I don't know about that but it was a national chain
and I assume they have video too.A
I called the credit card company to let them know what I found and the
fraud department said they do not pursue if under a threshold. A $200
comes to mind, but it has been a while.A
It's not about you or your property. It's about time and money. If
losses are lower than a threshold it is just a write off. If property
is insured, it is a low police priority.A Sad but true that crooks
probably know this and get away with it but karma and stupidity on
their part should end up getting them caught eventually.
My brother in college had a nice stereo which when he came home for
breaks he would open up the case and remove internal fuses making the
amplifier not turn on. He also had a note inside saying it was his
property and if found, please call him.A The rat bastard thief stole
the amplifier and other items too.A The amp ended up at a repair shop
where the tech called my brother and the guy got arrested and most of
the property returned.
This is a wake up call for sure to add a hidden kill switch or ability
to otherwise make it very difficult to get away with such a thing.
RobA
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Sean Korb <[1]spkorb at gmail.com> wrote:
The laws are fine but selectively enforced.A It used to be whether
or
not you were "connected" but not so much anymore.A Now they only
look
at it to see if it looks like work.A If it does, it's probably not
worth the trouble because there are so many easy perps out there
without lawyers.
I really hope they nail these guys to the wall though!A That is
some
ugly business.
sean
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Effie Richards
<[2]erichards at zogob.sdcoxmail.com> wrote:
> I can share those thoughts with you, about thieves.... and litter
slugs.
> Sometimes our laws don't make sense.
>
>
> Sent from Effie's iPad
>
>> On May 9, 2017, at 8:14 PM, Will Kooiman
<[3]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thieves are the only people I hate more than littering.
>>
>> Is that weird?A YouA^1d think IA^1d hate rapist or cat jugglers
or something.
>>
>> I canA^1t explain it.A ItA^1s just one of those buttons that
sets me off.
>>
>> Thieves, and especially car thieves, have a special place in
hell.
>>
>> When the cops wouldnA^1t talk to the guys that stole my car, all
sorts of
>> things went through my head - none of them legal.A Luckily,
sanity
>> prevailed, and I moved on.
>>
>>
>>> On 5/9/17, 2:55 PM, "Larry - Ohio Time" <Larry at OhioTimeCorp.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>> I had my credit card number stolen and they bought 2 tickets to
Las Vegas
>>> and stayed in the MGM for a week. The airline had photo ID's for
them and
>>> no
>>> one did anything.
>>>
>>> Now when they caught the guy who stole my T-Bird he got 2 years,
but that
>>> was in the 90's...
>>>
>>>
>>> Larry (sad) - Cleveland
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[4]detomaso-bounces at serve
r.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Will Kooiman
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 12:38 PM
>>> To: Ken Green
>>> Cc: Detomaso Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Group 4 "CANDY" car stolen
>>>
>>> It will be parted out and the shell dumped.
>>>
>>> My 1993 mustang cobra was stolen 3 times.A Twice I found out
who did it.
>>> Cops and insurance didn't care.A They refused to investigate.A
They said,
>>> what do you care?A It's covered.
>>>
>>> Insurance rebuilt it twice, and totaled it the last time.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On May 8, 2017, at 6:24 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso
>>> <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>A Must be the Russians.A We blame everything on them?
>>>>A Ken
>>>>A A ______________________________
____________________________________
>>>>
>>>>A From: bill gaino <[6]gaino at earthlink.net>
>>>>A To: Charles McCall <[7]charlesmccall at gmail.com>; Detomaso
Email List
>>>>A <[8]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
>>>>A Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 3:09 PM
>>>>A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Group 4 "CANDY" car stolen
>>>>A Belgium has been invaded, sorry to hear. I hope
>>>>A it shows up soon!
>>>>
>>>> [1][9]https://www.facebook.com/pages/slickpaintcom/129049637149
634?ref=ts&
>>>>A fref=ts
>>>>A If you want it slick.A [10]www.slickpaint.comA like us on
facebook
>>>>A -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Charles McCall <[2][11]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: May 8, 2017 3:12 PM
>>>>> To: Detomaso Email List <[3][12]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
>>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Group 4 "CANDY" car stolen
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the craziest thing I have ever heard.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pat Hals reports that his Factory Group 4 Pantera, chassis
2862, was
>>>>> stolen from his garage over the past few days.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a very high profile car, very well known, so I can't
imagine
>>>>> what the thief is thinking. They can't use it anywhere without
>>>>A someone
>>>>> noticing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But there you have it - if you see strange offers for a
Factory
>>>>A Group 4
>>>>> car, please know that something is afoot
>>>>A _______________________________________________
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5. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
6. mailto:gaino at earthlink.net
7. mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com
8. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
9. https://www.facebook.com/pages/slickpaintcom/129049637149634?ref=ts&
10. http://www.slickpaint.com/
11. mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com
12. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
13. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
14. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
15. https://www.facebook.com/pages/slickpaintcom/129049637149634?ref=ts&fref=t
16. mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com
17. mailto:detomaso at detomasolist.com
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