[DeTomaso] Campi Wheels 10 x 15

Ed Mendez edducati at mac.com
Mon Mar 27 14:05:06 EDT 2017


Thank you my friend.

Marvic is the best, great people, great products!

Ed Mendez

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> On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:22, Patrick HALS <patrickhals at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>   I have read with great interest, all the posts about the 10x15 DT rear
>   wheels.
>   I immediately and sincerely apologize for non responding to everyone
>   who posted about this topic, just because I cannot properly use the
>   forum .A
>   I own two original 10 inch sets coming from my GTS's, but I have
>   recently ordered one new extra set ( long ribs ) from Marvic.
>   Why ?
>   I have been closely working with Marvic for the last three years, after
>   trying to identify a reliable manufacturer , preferably in the EU ( for
>   tax and customs reasons ) who would accept to replicate my original
>   1972 "Candy" original GR4 factory wheels in small quantities. A
>   Racing Candy in the Mulsanne straight is one of my most thrilling
>   experiences ever, and I just wished I had 200 HP more... ( Candy has
>   588 HP ) But thinking that one of those 45 years old wheels could
>   explode in the straight or when braking is something you just don't
>   want to think about, because you'll be a lonely passenger for an
>   eternity before seriously crashing. Ask Adrian Newey who broke a wheel
>   on his GT40 in the Mulsanne straight at LMC a couple of years ago...
>   The car was totally wrecked, and Adrian miraculously survived without
>   being injured . Period. A
>   Identifying a reliable manufacturer had been my quest for 5 or 6 years,
>   without success, when I first raced the Warhol Pantera at Le Mans
>   Classic in 2006 for the first time, and then Candy in 2008 .A
>   I also met in 2009 or 2010 ( don't remember exactly ) with Cesare
>   Magistrali, who took me to another foundry in the same area ( close to
>   Lago di Como in Northern Italy ). Incidentally, I met with George
>   Clooney there in a bar ( he lives in the area ) and I must say very
>   honestly that his coffee is better than mine ! The foundry was fine (
>   they were building the huge toothed wheels that were going to be used
>   in the Gulf of Mexico oil spills. Each " wheel" was divided in four
>   equal elements, that were about 10 meters radius.... Talking about huge
>   and heavy steel wheels !A
>   When I came back from Italy after a long and painful meeting with
>   Cesare and his associate, I knew I was wasting time. Cesare asked me
>   50.000 euros to sell me the "original" sketches of plans of the
>   Campagnolo GR4 wheels...
>   This is to tell you that this search was not an easy one. In 2013, my
>   quest was highly facilitated by my good friend Marc Devis, who is the
>   owner of 2872, and a great De Tomaso fan . Marc knew Marvic, and
>   introduced me to them. I flew to Milano, rented a car and went to the
>   factory where I met with Pier , the owner, and Silvia, the export
>   manager.
>   Marvic knew Cesare, and strangely, had the original sketches of plans,
>   for which they asked me nothing. Talking about a good start ! They
>   wanted to start the GR4 wheels production ASAP, with top tooling and
>   top skills. Marvic is producing ONLY magnesium components , for the
>   biggest racing manufacturers in motorbikes , endurance racing,
>   seatbelts, BBS, Onroak racing ...A
>   They agreed to start with a production of 5 sets only ( 10 and 14 x 15
>   ). Marc immediately committed himself to buy two sets for 2872 , and I
>   bought the remaining three sets to complete the first batch.A  Before
>   starting the molds, Marvic and I agreed that they would check my Candy
>   wheels to see if they were still OK ( they were ) and most of all, to
>   check the adequacy of the plans with the wheels. It was. I requested
>   that an anti slip band was created inside the wheel ( unnoticeable when
>   the wheel is mounted) A , to prevent the tire from rotating on the
>   wheel when accelerating flat out. If you don't understand why, I invite
>   you to check the unpleasant result on the attached photo at Le Mans
>   2008 with Candy with the original wheels ( no anti slip band ) The
>   brand new tire has been living for less than 5 minutes on the track.
>   The other two pics are a bonus !A
>   I must say that the result is better than expected, and I trust Marvic
>   for delivering top quality wheels, and super efficient after sale
>   service.
>   Since then , we have been working " hand in hand" for De Tomaso GR4
>   wheels, and they regularly sell some sets to new owners.A
>   I didn't believe that the production of 10 inch wheels would be
>   comparable to GR4 wheels in terms of production, and I did not follow
>   the elaboration of the replica as closely as the GR4's. A
>   Yet, I have recently ordered a set, because they are conform with
>   original, and they are new and garanteed for two years. I will feel
>   safer when going flat out in Spa. How much is your life worth when it
>   comes to exploding a wheel when flat out on the highway or on a race
>   track ? What if you kill someone , or your passenger , or a child, or
>   yourself ( this being the least of the potential damage ) A ?A
>   As Mike and Julian said, there might be some really minor differences
>   between the original and the replica, but one more time, if you car is
>   not intended to be a trailer queen, what does it matter ?A
>   They are not badged as " Campagnolo" either , because doing this would
>   be equivalent to create a fake. There is just no sign on the outer rim.
>   feel free to add a set of Campagnolo stickers by yourself if you want !
>   several vendors sell tham cheap .A
>   Each wheel is identified with a batch number for the garantee, on the
>   inner side of the wheel ( unnoticeable from the outside)
>   The price is expensive, but old wheels are even more expensive , ( when
>   and if you can find them ) and they could be dangerous.A
>   For me, the choice is easy !A
>   I gladly add that my contribution is NOT financed in any way, by Marvic
>   ! It is just spontaneaous, and I thank Pier and Silvia for having taken
>   the risk after Marc Devis introduced me to them.
>   Best to all , be careful !A
>   Pat A
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