[DeTomaso] Tire Size
Asa Jay Laughton
asajay at asajay.com
Tue Mar 21 22:21:39 EDT 2017
The Proxes I ran were:
- 225/50ZR15 Front
- 235/50ZR15 Rear
Asa
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
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On 3/20/2017 9:30 PM, Steve Lisa wrote:
I agree with AJ...street tires in 15 inch at the right tire diameters
of the early Panteras are hard to find. The closest to 1972 specs for
a 15 inch wheel are the Hoosier TDS and Avons race tires. Neither are
streetable for every day use.
Intersting observation: the later year tires stock were much smaller
diameter than early years. AJ, what size Proxes did you run????
Btw....we are still running the wheel and tire combo you had for the
Silver State for my son-in-law....who is doing basic open track. That
was a nice set up short of racing, but I can't use it for vintage.
Regards,
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
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On Mar 20, 2017 9:14 PM, "Asa Jay Laughton" <[4]asajay at asajay.com>
wrote:
Jut to add to Steve's thoughts,
For what it's worth, I ran Proxes R888 on the 7" and 8" stock
magnesium wheels for a couple of years. In my opinion they looked
goofy on the rear (and really threw off the speedometer). The
front's look okay but the rears are too small. They are great
tires, but their profile is way too low, with an overall diameter
drastically reduced from stock in the rear and they just don't fill
the wheel well. Kinda makes the car look like a roller skate, or
skateboard (take your pick).
You can see a few photos here:
[5]https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/423331_3771817
78968263_322679426_n.jpg?oh=8dcfebf6524f2c37d6d9d70f973c73dc
&oe=5960EAC4
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59594840_3542880_n.jpg?oh=8e713466d93cd6342f107017001956fb&
oe=5969A5D5
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78558841_4972272_n.jpg?oh=cd199de55adf9bd083b85e3ceb897c0c&
oe=59601447
If you just need street tires, I think there are other options that
would look a lot better, but they won't be rated for high speeds in
excess of 140 MPH or so.
For racing in the Silver State, I bought 17 and 18" wheels and then
put good z-rated rubber on that met the same stock diameter. You
can see a photo of that here:
[8]https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/241317_477871
052232668_835863716_o.jpg?oh=f5e28c609b51fd51c0989635e992bfa
2&oe=5973C046
If you like the Campy's (and who wouldn't), I would encourage you to
invest in a set of vendor supplied Campy clones in a larger
diameter, probably 17 and 18. If I had the money, I would go for a
set from Marino Perna of Pantera East.
Just my two cents,
Asa
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
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[10]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
On 3/20/2017 6:19 PM, Steve Lisa wrote:
Mark,A
Happy to share, and hope to get more involved as I progress with
AJ's
Pantera.A I promised him it was in good hands!
The files are a bit personalized for my need -- vintage/hill
climb
racing -- if you have any questions, please just email or call
me.A I
am more than happy to get on the phone and walk through the
spreadsheet.A If people think its worthwhile, I will clean it
up and
recirculate -- I didn't label things very clearly.A
I was looking for two options:
1. First, tires to run on 7 (front) and 8 (rear) inch rim sets
(for
proper vintage).
2. Second, tires to run on 8 (front) and 10 (rear) inch rim
sets (for
hill climbs, NASA, SCCA ITE, less proper vintage). A a
I gave options for "streetable" track tires, DOT race tires, and
vintage-approved race tires.A For now, I am experimenting.A So
please
excuse mistakes. A
Regards,A
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
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On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Mark Peterson
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Thanks Steve. Good luck next month. Mark 1789
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From: Steve Lisa<[4][15]stevelisa at patentit.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 17:16:44 -0700
To: mark peterson<[5][16]petersonmr06 at yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire Size
Mark:
Sa
ee my research attached.A Since
aIa
A am racing
aAsa Jay's old
A pantera
a (starting April 14-16 at Portland International Raceway)a
, I ca
alled
Bassett and had the
aindicated a7, 8 and 10 inch wideA
wheels made
a (rather than racing the magnesium wheels)a. A I
A ordered the Hoosier R7
a tires as indicated, and also ordered some Hooser TDA's as
indicated.A I intend to try the R7's on the 7 and 8 inch
wheels, and
will switch over to the Hoosier TDS on the 8 and 10 inch
wheels.A We
will be doing a Test Day on Thursday, Racing SCCA in ITE Friday
and
Saturday (if they let us in).A It is a bit of "first test"
weekend for
us.A
If I was wanting a street/track tire, I would have done the
Proxes R888
on the 7 and 8 inch Bassett D-Hole wheels A I suspect they would
fit
the original wheels. A
a
Other available options are indicated
a with links.
a
a
a
I will follow up with what I find on the tires/wheels.
a
I attached the files in Google worksheet and XCEL. A
I am not sure any of it is right or that is all that helpful.A
I tend
to learn by making mistakes.A But, it does compile what is
available.
A a
A A
[7][icon_11_spreadsheet_list.png] A Pantera Wheel and Tire
worksheet
Regards,
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
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