[DeTomaso] Vented brake rotor update

Thu Mar 23 23:41:56 EDT 2017

With the Wilwood hats there is also the choice of hat offset to relocate the rear rotor outboard, that's the route I went.

Julian

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Subject: [DeTomaso] Vented brake rotor update

All,

Having a rare day off, and with the knowledge that Hiroshi Miyata, a Pantera owner from Tokyo, was wrapping up a business trip in LA and had allowed himself an extra day, I hopped on a plane and flew down to have lunch with him, and also to visit some of the vendors.

It was nice chatting with Bev and Tara at Hall Pantera, and with a heavily bearded Steve Wilkinson. Steve was kind enough to loan me a stock rear rotor, which I then brought with me as our next stop was Centric Brakes, the source for the custom/not-so-custom vented front brake rotors I'm having custom made.

(For those who haven't been paying attention, the original 1965-67 Ford Mustang uses a vented front brake rotor that is dimensionally all but identical to that of the Pantera, but sadly now they are all made as a combined hub/rotor in a single casting that wont work well in our application--I am having a run of old-school discs made that I will then be offering up to the masses; the price will be more than reasonable)

I had inquiries about getting rear discs made, so I took a stock rear rotor to them in the hopes that some other Vehicle would have stock rotors that more or less matched Pantera dimensions.

Short answer--no. They have over 2700 different OEM rotor designs, and not a single one would work for the rear application in a Pantera.

If one truly wants vented rear rotors to use with stock calipers, Wilkinson has a small pile of them (about a dozen). Turns out the optional vented disc first used on the Euro GTS was also used on the GT5 and GT5-S. It's oddly narrow, measuring 19mm/.75 inches in thickness, and somewhat larger in diameter than you would expect (294mm I believe). If you want them, be prepared for an eye-watering expenditure. I don't know the exact price but I think $500 would get you something less than one full rotor!

Wilwood makes rotors of the appropriate thickness and diameter, and also makes Pantera-specific hats, so you could probably get some of those for $250 each or thereabouts. (I have a set of those on my garage floor waiting to go on Lori's Pantera).

So anyway, we are SOL with respect to simple, cheap bolt-on vented rear rotors, but the front ones I am having made are getting cryo treatment this week and should be shipped to me next week sometime. Of the 20 sets (20 each left and right), at least a dozen are conditionally spoken for, so if you haven't already indicated interest, let me know soon!

Cheers!

Mike

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   With the Wilwood hats there is also the choice of hat offset to
   relocate the rear rotor outboard, that's the route I went.

   Julian
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   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 6:29 PM
   To: DeTomaso Mail List
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Vented brake rotor update

   All,
   Having a rare day off, and with the knowledge that Hiroshi Miyata, a
   Pantera owner from Tokyo, was wrapping up a business trip in LA and had
   allowed himself an extra day, I hopped on a plane and flew down to have
   lunch with him, and also to visit some of the vendors.
   It was nice chatting with Bev and Tara at Hall Pantera, and with a
   heavily bearded Steve Wilkinson. Steve was kind enough to loan me a
   stock rear rotor, which I then brought with me as our next stop was
   Centric Brakes, the source for the custom/not-so-custom vented front
   brake rotors I'm having custom made.
   (For those who haven't been paying attention, the original 1965-67 Ford
   Mustang uses a vented front brake rotor that is dimensionally all but
   identical to that of the Pantera, but sadly now they are all made as a
   combined hub/rotor in a single casting that wont work well in our
   application--I am having a run of old-school discs made that I will
   then be offering up to the masses; the price will be more than
   reasonable)
   I had inquiries about getting rear discs made, so I took a stock rear
   rotor to them in the hopes that some other Vehicle would have stock
   rotors that more or less matched Pantera dimensions.
   Short answer--no. They have over 2700 different OEM rotor designs, and
   not a single one would work for the rear application in a Pantera.
   If one truly wants vented rear rotors to use with stock calipers,
   Wilkinson has a small pile of them (about a dozen). Turns out the
   optional vented disc first used on the Euro GTS was also used on the
   GT5 and GT5-S. It's oddly narrow, measuring 19mm/.75 inches in
   thickness, and somewhat larger in diameter than you would expect (294mm
   I believe). If you want them, be prepared for an eye-watering
   expenditure. I don't know the exact price but I think $500 would get
   you something less than one full rotor!
   Wilwood makes rotors of the appropriate thickness and diameter, and
   also makes Pantera-specific hats, so you could probably get some of
   those for $250 each or thereabouts. (I have a set of those on my garage
   floor waiting to go on Lori's Pantera).
   So anyway, we are SOL with respect to simple, cheap bolt-on vented rear
   rotors, but the front ones I am having made are getting cryo treatment
   this week and should be shipped to me next week sometime. Of the 20
   sets (20 each left and right), at least a dozen are conditionally
   spoken for, so if you haven't already indicated interest, let me know
   soon!
   Cheers!
   Mike
   Sent from my iPhone
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