[DeTomaso] Tire Size

[Asa Jay Laughton]

Jut to add to Steve's thoughts,

For what it's worth, I ran Proxes R888 on the 7" and 8" stock magnesium 
wheels for a couple of years.  In my opinion they looked goofy on the 
rear (and really threw off the speedometer).  The front's look okay but 
the rears are too small.  They are great tires, but their profile is way 
too low, with an overall diameter drastically reduced from stock in the 
rear and they just don't fill the wheel well.  Kinda makes the car look 
like a roller skate, or skateboard (take your pick).

You can see a few photos here:
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/423331_377181778968263_322679426_n.jpg?oh=8dcfebf6524f2c37d6d9d70f973c73dc&oe=5960EAC4

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/198541_204249359594840_3542880_n.jpg?oh=8e713466d93cd6342f107017001956fb&oe=5969A5D5

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/185554_247942678558841_4972272_n.jpg?oh=cd199de55adf9bd083b85e3ceb897c0c&oe=59601447

If you just need street tires, I think there are other options that 
would look a lot better, but they won't be rated for high speeds in 
excess of 140 MPH or so.

For racing in the Silver State, I bought 17 and 18" wheels and then put 
good z-rated rubber on that met the same stock diameter.  You can see a 
photo of that here:
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/241317_477871052232668_835863716_o.jpg?oh=f5e28c609b51fd51c0989635e992bfa2&oe=5973C046

If you like the Campy's (and who wouldn't), I would encourage you to 
invest in a set of vendor supplied Campy clones in a larger diameter, 
probably 17 and 18.  If I had the money, I would go for a set from 
Marino Perna of Pantera East.

Just my two cents,
Asa

Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
&  Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
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On 3/20/2017 6:19 PM, Steve Lisa wrote:
>     Mark,A
>     Happy to share, and hope to get more involved as I progress with AJ's
>     Pantera.A  I promised him it was in good hands!
>     The files are a bit personalized for my need -- vintage/hill climb
>     racing -- if you have any questions, please just email or call me.A  I
>     am more than happy to get on the phone and walk through the
>     spreadsheet.A  If people think its worthwhile, I will clean it up and
>     recirculate -- I didn't label things very clearly.A
>     I was looking for two options:
>      1. First, tires to run on 7 (front) and 8 (rear) inch rim sets (for
>         proper vintage).
>      2. Second, tires to run on 8 (front) and 10 (rear) inch rim sets (for
>         hill climbs, NASA, SCCA ITE, less proper vintage). A a
>
>     I gave options for "streetable" track tires, DOT race tires, and
>     vintage-approved race tires.A  For now, I am experimenting.A  So please
>     excuse mistakes. A
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>     On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Mark Peterson
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>     Thanks Steve. Good luck next month. Mark 1789
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>     From: Steve Lisa<[4]stevelisa at patentit.com>
>     Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 17:16:44 -0700
>     To: mark peterson<[5]petersonmr06 at yahoo.com>
>     Cc: List DeTomaso Forum<[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire Size
>     Mark:
>     Sa
>     ee my research attached.A  Since
>     aIa
>     A am racing
>     aAsa Jay's old
>     A pantera
>     a (starting April 14-16 at Portland International Raceway)a
>     , I ca
>     alled
>     Bassett and had the
>     aindicated a7, 8 and 10 inch wideA
>     wheels made
>     a (rather than racing the magnesium wheels)a. A I
>     A ordered the Hoosier R7
>     a tires as indicated, and also ordered some Hooser TDA's as
>     indicated.A  I intend to try the R7's on the 7 and 8 inch wheels, and
>     will switch over to the Hoosier TDS on the 8 and 10 inch wheels.A  We
>     will be doing a Test Day on Thursday, Racing SCCA in ITE Friday and
>     Saturday (if they let us in).A  It is a bit of "first test" weekend for
>     us.A
>     If I was wanting a street/track tire, I would have done the Proxes R888
>     on the 7 and 8 inch Bassett D-Hole wheels A I suspect they would fit
>     the original wheels. A
>     a
>     Other available options are indicated
>     a with links.
>     a
>     a
>     a
>     I will follow up with what I find on the tires/wheels.
>     a
>     I attached the files in Google worksheet and XCEL. A
>     I am not sure any of it is right or that is all that helpful.A  I tend
>     to learn by making mistakes.A  But, it does compile what is available.
>     A a
>     A A
>     [7][icon_11_spreadsheet_list.png] A Pantera Wheel and Tire worksheet
>     Regards,
>     Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
>