[DeTomaso] Techno question: L Pantera lower engine right angle cooling hose

[Charles Engles]

Dear Mike,

                     Hmmm.   I will make inquiries tomorrow when I call PPC.


                     I do hate that hose and that very tight and congested
spot in front of the engine.  I have pretty much conquered getting that hose
on with less profanity than earlier decades.  It would be nice to have a
"superior solution".   However, my mental picture of the new option does not
convince me that it would be a  great leap forward.  


                                            Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles




-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Drew [mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 6:56 PM
To: Charles Engles
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: L Pantera lower engine right angle
cooling hose

Chuck,

It's not a mix-up. If its done its done intentionally. Like the pipe around
the shift lever, it's seen as a superior solution. 

Mike

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 19, 2017, at 15:09, "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net> wrote:

> Dear Mike,
> 
> 
>                     I have not had a problem with that mix-up in my
> dealings with DQ at PPC for this part in years gone by.   
> 
> 
>                                             Warmest regards,  Chuck 
> Engles
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Drew [mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 3:43 PM
> To: Charles Engles
> Cc: <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: L Pantera lower engine right 
> angle cooling hose
> 
> Chuck,
> 
> If you try to order that alone from a vendor what you will likely get 
> is a metal 90 and two straight sections of hose.
> 
> Mike
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 19, 2017, at 13:22, "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
> 
>> Dear Mike, Chuck and Bud,
>> 
>> 
>>                See below:
>> 
>> Chuck,
>> 
>> All the hoses are the same size, except for the one that connects to 
>> the water pump which is larger at the water pump end.
>> $$$$$$   Right.   All are 1 3/8"----except the water pump piece which is
1
>> 3/4" diameter.
>> 
>> 
>> Significantly, the vendor water hose and pipe kits do away with that 
>> two-diameter hose, replacing it with a two-diameter metal pipe, 
>> joined to the system with two short lengths of straight hose. (This 
>> was the stock arrangement on the L model and later cars).
>> $$$$$$$   Right, that is the arrangement on the L models and that isn't
> the
>> hose in question.  It is the other one on the right side of the 
>> engine that is a formed 90 degree bend 1 3/8" hose.
>> 
>> 
>> Similarly, the oddly shaped hose you are referring to is replaced 
>> with a simple 90-degree bent pipe and two short lengths of straight hose.
>> $$$$$$    Hmmm.   I think that I will fall back on PPC and order another
>> one.  They've worked well for me for decades.    I am amazed that a big
> NAPA
>> store with warehouse attached did not have one...or even on that could be
>> adapted or shortened to work.   Sigh.
>> 
>> 
>>                 Thanks all.
>> 
>> 
>>                                     Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 12:49, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Forum,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>                         I am starting an engine  install and I was
>>> gathering new coolant hose at NAPA.   I thought that the lower engine
>>> ninety degree coolant hose would be easy to find there.   I presumed
>>> that it was 1 3/8".
>>> 
>>> 
>>>                         I was disappointed because NAPA did not have
>>> any hoses that would begin to fit the bill.   The counter expert also
>>> told  me that the hose is an odd size.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>                         In my opinion the "odd size" was due to 
>>> being  ever so slightly askew in the normal Pantera engine coolant 
>>> hose  position and the rubber deformed over fifteen years.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>                         The Dumb Techno Question: the hose in 
>>> question  is a 1 3/8" hose----right?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>                                                          Warmest 
>>> regards,  Chuck Engles 
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