[DeTomaso] Techno question: L Pantera lower engine right angle cooling hose

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Sun Mar 19 18:26:35 EDT 2017


Just to make up for being a dick (or so I am told) earlier;


NAPA part #7571


Julian

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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: L Pantera lower engine right angle cooling hose


   If you don't end up buying the steel 90* pipe from a vendor (or fabbing
   your own),  you just need to spend more time at Napa, in the hoses.
   I apologize up front I can't find the part number.  I used to keep a
   spare in the Pantera all the time just in case that one hose blew.
   Napa carries a very nice hose with two 90* bends.  You cut this hose in
   half and end up with two replacement hoses, very nice.
   Again, I'm sorry I don't have the part number.
   Asa
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
Spokane, WA
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   On 3/19/2017 3:02 PM, Charles Engles wrote:

   Dear Ken:    No.   That one I have covered.   It is the single formed
   ninety degree short hose on the right front corner of the oil
   pan.       Chuck Engles



   From: Ken Green [[3]mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com]
   Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 4:03 PM
   To: Mike Drew; Charles Engles
   Cc: [4]<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: L Pantera lower engine right
   angle cooling hose


   Do you mean this tube?  I have a very vague recollection that metal was
   preferred because the rubber hose might collapse due to being hot and
   so close to the water pump inlet?





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   From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso [5]<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   To: Charles Engles [6]<cengles at cox.net>
   Cc: "[7]<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
   [8]<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 1:43 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: L Pantera lower engine right
   angle cooling hose


   Chuck,
   If you try to order that alone from a vendor what you will likely get
   is a metal 90 and two straight sections of hose.
   Mike
   Sent from my iPhone

   On Mar 19, 2017, at 13:22, "Charles Engles" [9]<[1]cengles at cox.net> wrote:
   > Dear Mike, Chuck and Bud,
   >
   >
   >                See below:
   >
   > Chuck,
   >
   > All the hoses are the same size, except for the one that connects to
   the
   > water pump which is larger at the water pump end.
   > $$$$$$  Right.  All are 1 3/8"----except the water pump piece which
   is 1
   > 3/4" diameter.
   >
   >
   > Significantly, the vendor water hose and pipe kits do away with that
   > two-diameter hose, replacing it with a two-diameter metal pipe,
   joined to
   > the system with two short lengths of straight hose. (This was the
   stock
   > arrangement on the L model and later cars).
   > $$$$$$$  Right, that is the arrangement on the L models and that
   isn't the
   > hose in question.  It is the other one on the right side of the
   engine that
   > is a formed 90 degree bend 1 3/8" hose.
   >
   >
   > Similarly, the oddly shaped hose you are referring to is replaced
   with a
   > simple 90-degree bent pipe and two short lengths of straight hose.
   > $$$$$$    Hmmm.  I think that I will fall back on PPC and order
   another
   > one.  They've worked well for me for decades.    I am amazed that a
   big NAPA
   > store with warehouse attached did not have one...or even on that
   could be
   > adapted or shortened to work.  Sigh.
   >
   >
   >                  Thanks all.
   >
   >
   >                                      Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > Mike
   >
   > Sent from my iPad
   >
   >> On Mar 19, 2017, at 12:49, Charles Engles [10]<[2]cengles at cox.net>
   wrote:
   >>
   >>  Dear Forum,
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>                          I am starting an engine  install and I was
   >>  gathering new coolant hose at NAPA.  I thought that the lower
   engine
   >>  ninety degree coolant hose would be easy to find there.  I presumed
   >>  that it was 1 3/8".
   >>
   >>
   >>                          I was disappointed because NAPA did not
   have
   >>  any hoses that would begin to fit the bill.  The counter expert
   also
   >>  told  me that the hose is an odd size.
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>                          In my opinion the "odd size" was due to
   being
   >>  ever so slightly askew in the normal Pantera engine coolant hose
   >>  position and the rubber deformed over fifteen years.
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>                          The Dumb Techno Question: the hose in
   question
   >>  is a 1 3/8" hose----right?
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>
   >>                                                          Warmest
   >>  regards,  Chuck Engles
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   Just to make up for being a dick (or so I am told) earlier;

   NAPA part #7571

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
   Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 3:21 PM
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: L Pantera lower engine right
   angle cooling hose

      If you don't end up buying the steel 90* pipe from a vendor (or
   fabbing
      your own),  you just need to spend more time at Napa, in the hoses.
      I apologize up front I can't find the part number.  I used to keep a
      spare in the Pantera all the time just in case that one hose blew.
      Napa carries a very nice hose with two 90* bends.  You cut this hose
   in
      half and end up with two replacement hoses, very nice.
      Again, I'm sorry I don't have the part number.
      Asa
   Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
   & Shelley Marie
   Spokane, WA
   ******************************
   [1]http://w7tsc.org
   [2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
      On 3/19/2017 3:02 PM, Charles Engles wrote:
      Dear Ken:    No.   That one I have covered.   It is the single
   formed
      ninety degree short hose on the right front corner of the oil
      pan.       Chuck Engles
      From: Ken Green [[3]mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com]
      Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 4:03 PM
      To: Mike Drew; Charles Engles
      Cc: [4]<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: L Pantera lower engine
   right
      angle cooling hose
      Do you mean this tube?  I have a very vague recollection that metal
   was
      preferred because the rubber hose might collapse due to being hot
   and
      so close to the water pump inlet?
      Inline image Inline image

   _______________________________________________________________________
      From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso [5]<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
      To: Charles Engles [6]<cengles at cox.net>
      Cc: "[7]<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
      [8]<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
      Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 1:43 PM
      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: L Pantera lower engine
   right
      angle cooling hose
      Chuck,
      If you try to order that alone from a vendor what you will likely
   get
      is a metal 90 and two straight sections of hose.
      Mike
      Sent from my iPhone
      On Mar 19, 2017, at 13:22, "Charles Engles" [9]<[1]cengles at cox.net>
   wrote:
      > Dear Mike, Chuck and Bud,
      >
      >
      >                See below:
      >
      > Chuck,
      >
      > All the hoses are the same size, except for the one that connects
   to
      the
      > water pump which is larger at the water pump end.
      > $$$$$$  Right.  All are 1 3/8"----except the water pump piece
   which
      is 1
      > 3/4" diameter.
      >
      >
      > Significantly, the vendor water hose and pipe kits do away with
   that
      > two-diameter hose, replacing it with a two-diameter metal pipe,
      joined to
      > the system with two short lengths of straight hose. (This was the
      stock
      > arrangement on the L model and later cars).
      > $$$$$$$  Right, that is the arrangement on the L models and that
      isn't the
      > hose in question.  It is the other one on the right side of the
      engine that
      > is a formed 90 degree bend 1 3/8" hose.
      >
      >
      > Similarly, the oddly shaped hose you are referring to is replaced
      with a
      > simple 90-degree bent pipe and two short lengths of straight hose.
      > $$$$$$    Hmmm.  I think that I will fall back on PPC and order
      another
      > one.  They've worked well for me for decades.    I am amazed that
   a
      big NAPA
      > store with warehouse attached did not have one...or even on that
      could be
      > adapted or shortened to work.  Sigh.
      >
      >
      >                  Thanks all.
      >
      >
      >                                      Warmest regards,  Chuck
   Engles
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Mike
      >
      > Sent from my iPad
      >
      >> On Mar 19, 2017, at 12:49, Charles Engles
   [10]<[2]cengles at cox.net>
      wrote:
      >>
      >>  Dear Forum,
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>                          I am starting an engine  install and I
   was
      >>  gathering new coolant hose at NAPA.  I thought that the lower
      engine
      >>  ninety degree coolant hose would be easy to find there.  I
   presumed
      >>  that it was 1 3/8".
      >>
      >>
      >>                          I was disappointed because NAPA did not
      have
      >>  any hoses that would begin to fit the bill.  The counter expert
      also
      >>  told  me that the hose is an odd size.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>                          In my opinion the "odd size" was due to
      being
      >>  ever so slightly askew in the normal Pantera engine coolant hose
      >>  position and the rubber deformed over fifteen years.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>                          The Dumb Techno Question: the hose in
      question
      >>  is a 1 3/8" hose----right?
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>                                                          Warmest
      >>  regards,  Chuck Engles
      >> _______________________________________________
      >>
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