[DeTomaso] Prototype for sale. Again?
Rob Dumoulin
rob at dumoulins.net
Tue Mar 14 20:27:39 EDT 2017
I googled the Alpine and found a car that may loosely resemble the one in
the photos but is surely not it.
On Mar 14, 2017 5:03 PM, "Roland" <willibillie at live.de> wrote:
> Michael is absolutely right.
>
> It was the prototype for a Renault Alpine. Renault refused it and the
> old man picked it to show something that will drive Kjell Qvale crazy.
> Later on it was used to show investors from russia, that the old
> company is still working.
>
> Roland Jaeckel
>
> Am 14.03.2017 um 21:08 schrieb michael frazier:
>
> I've been looking hard for an article about this car when it first
> showed up. It wasn't even a DeTomaso
>
> prototype. It was a design prototype for a new Renault Alpine A310
> which died moments later. I don't
>
> remember how long it was, but it then shows up as a new Pantera
> design. I think the old man just picked
>
> it up and ran with it. Google Renault Alpine A310 and you'll see what
> I'm talking about. Still hunting the
>
> original article.
>
>
> Michael
>
>
> Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
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>
> From: [2]Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 2:55 PM
> To: [[1]3]asajay at asajay.com; [[2]4]rob at dumoulins.net
> Cc: [[3]5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Prototype for sale. Again?
>
>
> A recent article in a Euro magazine shows the original fiberglas mold
> still at what's left of the Modena factory, and two complete bodies
> pulled from the mold but not finished. The 'unveiled' 2000 prototype
> was a push-mobile shell with rudimentary wheel attachments and no
> engine, trans nor interior. Never saw anything about what engine/trans
> was planned. The old man could have been planning yet another surprise
> for the world.....
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Asa Jay Laughton [4]<asajay at asajay.com>
> To: Rob Dumoulin [5]<rob at dumoulins.net>
> Cc: P - Mail List [6]<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Tue, Mar 14, 2017 10:48 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Prototype for sale. Again?
> I would argue its not the exact same car shown in the unveiling. Note
> the absence of side-view mirrors on the doors, and how the original had
> them and appeared to be mechanically hinged at the front. The recent
> photos don't show any provisions for a mechanical connection of
> mirrors. The parting lines between some panels look tight in the
> modern photos versus more space on the unveiled version. It also
> appears a corner light was installed (passenger side front) but the
> modern photo shows a solid piece of bodywork.
> Was there more than one of the bodies made? I'm probably just being
> too critical.
> Asa
> Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
> Rob Dumoulin [7]<rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
> Aljandro show in pics at the end. Sad.
> [6][8]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https://
> www.hemmings.com/c
> las
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> AJycI2plAbt83k9AAc25emw
> Aljandro show in pics at the end. Sad.
> [1][9]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https://
> www.hemmings.com/c
> lassifieds/dealer/detomaso/pantera/1926814.html&ct=ga&cd=CAEYACoUMTc4Mj
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> A11AJycI2plAbt83k9AAc25emw
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I googled the Alpine and found a car that may loosely resemble the one
in the photos but is surely not it.
On Mar 14, 2017 5:03 PM, "Roland" <[1]willibillie at live.de> wrote:
A A Michael is absolutely right.
A A It was the prototype for a Renault Alpine. Renault refused it
and the
A A old man picked it to show something that will drive Kjell Qvale
crazy.
A A Later on it was used to show investors from russia, that the
old
A A company is still working.
A A Roland Jaeckel
A A Am 14.03.2017 um 21:08 schrieb michael frazier:
A A I've been looking hard for an article about this car when it
first
A A showed up.A It wasn't even a DeTomaso
A A prototype.A It was a design prototype for a new Renault Alpine
A310
A A which died moments later.A I don't
A A remember how long it was, but it then shows up as a new Pantera
A A design.A I think the old man just picked
A A it up and ran with it.A GoogleA Renault Alpine A310 and
you'll see what
A A I'm talking about.A Still hunting the
A A original article.
A A Michael
A A Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
A A From: [2]Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
A A Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 2:55 PM
A A To: [[1]3][2]asajay at asajay.com; [[2]4][3]rob at dumoulins.net
A A Cc: [[3]5][4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Prototype for sale. Again?
A A A recent article in a Euro magazine shows the original
fiberglas mold
A A still at what's left of the Modena factory, and two complete
bodies
A A pulled from the mold but not finished. The 'unveiled' 2000
prototype
A A was a push-mobile shell with rudimentary wheel attachments and
no
A A engine, trans nor interior. Never saw anything about what
engine/trans
A A was planned. The old man could have been planning yet another
surprise
A A for the world.....
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: Asa Jay Laughton [4]<[5]asajay at asajay.com>
A A To: Rob Dumoulin [5]<[6]rob at dumoulins.net>
A A Cc: P - Mail List [6]<[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
A A Sent: Tue, Mar 14, 2017 10:48 am
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Prototype for sale. Again?
A A I would argue its not the exact same car shown in the
unveiling. Note
A A the absence of side-view mirrors on the doors, and how the
original had
A A them and appeared to be mechanically hinged at the front. The
recent
A A photos don't show any provisions for a mechanical connection of
A A mirrors. The parting lines between some panels look tight in
the
A A modern photos versus more space on the unveiled version. It
also
A A appears a corner light was installed (passenger side front) but
the
A A modern photo shows a solid piece of bodywork.
A A Was there more than one of the bodies made? I'm probably just
being
A A too critical.
A A Asa
A A Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
A A Rob Dumoulin [7]<[8]rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
A A Aljandro show in pics at the end. Sad.
A A [6][8][9]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https://
www.hemmings.com/c
A A las
A A sifieds/dealer/detomaso/pantera/1926814.html&ct=ga&cd=
CAEYACoUMTc4MjE1M
A A TcwNTA0ODIwMTM5NTQyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=
AFQjCNGNA11
A A AJycI2plAbt83k9AAc25emw
A A Aljandro show in pics at the end. Sad.
A A [1][9][10]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https://
www.hemmings.com/c
A A lassifieds/dealer/detomaso/pantera/1926814.html&ct=ga&cd=
CAEYACoUMTc4Mj
A A E1MTcwNTA0ODIwMTM5NTQyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6Y29tOmVuOlVT&
usg=AFQjCNGN
A A A11AJycI2plAbt83k9AAc25emw
A A References
A A 1.
A A [7][10][11]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https://
www.hemmings.com/c
A A las
A A sifieds/dealer/detomaso/pantera/1926814.html&ct=ga&cd=
CAEYACoUMTc4MjE1M
A A TcwNTA0ODIwMTM5NTQyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=
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