[DeTomaso] What? Asa sold his Pantera?
Jeff Detrich
jjdetrich at gmail.com
Sun Mar 5 16:36:12 EST 2017
Hear! Hear!
Jeff
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On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Asa Jay,
>
> No apologies needed, I just always got the impression you were one of
> those guys that would be buried in his Pantera, that said I am aware
> that you and Shelley have faced some mountainous battles and medical
> bills and often needs must. I equally always have respect and
> admiration for the way you face life's challenges head on, taking it on
> the chin with a gracious smile (almost a smirk!) to say "is that all
> you have"!
>
> The Mustang is a worthy successor for attention from your skills....
> and your continued participation in the De Tomaso community is a
> welcome one.
> Julian
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:24 PM
> To: Julian Kift
> Cc: Steve Lisa; Himes, Terry (397C) ; List DeTomaso Forum; The DeTomaso
> Registry Guy
> Subject: What? Asa sold his Pantera?
>
> All,
> I stand corrected.
> A thorough search of the current DeTomaso email forum archives reveals
> that my "end of ownership" email was NOT posted to this list. My
> sincere apologies to everyone, especially Julian who I have great
> respect for.
> I posted it on May 18, 2016 to the Team Pantera Racing email forum
> here:
> [1]http://teampanteraracing.com/pipermail/tpr_teampanteraracing.com/201
> 6-May/004029.html
> As I recall I also sent it to the DeTomaso email forum. However, a
> check of the archives reveals an email from me on the 18th that
> indicates I was unsubscribed for a time and had to be reminded by Kurt
> to re-enable my subscription. I imagine at this point my email was
> lost.
> Those who are interested in the details can read all about it at the
> link above.
> I'd like to give credit to Mike Drew, who in a large way brokered the
> purchase nearly 20 years ago, or at least brought this particular
> Pantera to the light of day. And to Jack DeRyke who hosted me during
> the inspection and helped me inspect the car. You can read the entire
> story in a 2001 edition of POCA Profiles (I forget specifically which
> one.)
> So, yes, it's true. Now I'm concentrating on my 1971 Mach I Mustang.
> My apologies Julian, you were correct; I failed to inform the masses.
> Asa Jay
> Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
> Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Then my apologies, I must have either missed that post or discarded it
> as just more 'fake news'.....
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:57 PM
> To: Julian Kift
> Cc: Steve Lisa; Himes, Terry (397C); List DeTomaso Forum; The DeTomaso
> Registry Guy
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
>
> No I didn't!
> <Insert look of incredulity>
> Check the archives from last.... Oh probably June. (I would, but I'm
> mobile at the moment.)
> Really, I did announce it, and so far Steve is doing some awesome "next
> level mod" work on 5533.
> My efforts are now going into my 1971 Mach I Mustang (that I've owned
> for 30 years).
> :)
> Asa Jay
> Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
> Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Uh wait, I think Asa Jay conveniently forgot to mention he sold his
> Pantera!
> Welcome to the Pantera Community Steve.
> Julian
> ________________________________
> From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:37 PM
> To: Himes, Terry (397C)
> Cc: Julian Kift; The DeTomaso Registry Guy; List DeTomaso Forum
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
> For those that don't know, I purchased Asa Jay's Pantera last year.
> Currently being built into a vintage FIA GR3 racer.... I should have
> introduced myself properly.
> Regards,
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
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> Isn't there is an option to ask the seller questions, and the questions
> I believe are visible. Perhaps a few well placed questions????
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> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Himes, Terry (397C)
> <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>> wrote:
> eBay does protect you from scams. I have gotten my money back
> before
> from bad sellers before, without hassle.
> Your mileage may vary.
> I like the registry and the fact that everyone is so engaged. Warm
> fuzzes.
> But I'm not sure someone new to the Pantera world knows who to
> contact.
> I know I certainly didn't in 2000. I was clueless.
> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
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> From: DeTomaso
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> rver.detomasolist.com>> on behalf
> of Julian Kift
> <[3]julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
> Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:14 PM
> To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy
> <[4]detomasoregistry at gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com>>,
> List
> DeTomaso Forum
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
> God forbid but I wonder what happens if eBay choose to let this run
> its
> course and someone gets burned, given they have been notified of
> potential scam?
> The seller is supposedly located in Tewksbury, MA and the car
> advertised as in San Francisco, although someone else was told the
> car
> is in Michigan.
> Julian
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso
> <[6]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at se
> rver.detomasolist.com>> on behalf
> of Julian Kift
> <[7]julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:06 PM
> To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy; List DeTomaso Forum
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
> Seller says this is chassis# 4277, which is not in the registry to
> verify, but certainly photos are of 4275.
> Julian
> ________________________________
> From: Julian Kift
> <[8]julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:35 PM
> To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy; List DeTomaso Forum
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
> eBay may be reluctant to immediately kill it as no VIN is listed to
> verify the actual vehicle for sale. Albeit underhanded sellers will
> often use generic photos to represent items for sale.
> Also the seller has a 74 feedback, normally these scam artists have
> single digit feedback for a few low dollar purchases to build some
> credibility, maybe it is a hacked account too.
> Julian
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso
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> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:25 PM
> To: List DeTomaso Forum
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
> Steve L. spotted this eBay auction
> [11]http://www.ebay.com/itm/112316750098
> and asked me about it. Auction looks suspicious to us both.
> Finding the car in the registry, I contacted the last known owner to
> verify,
> as he recently bought it in December. He says the advert is not
> his,
> and the car is not for sale.
> Some people are bidding. Ebay has been contacted about the scam,
> but
> have not yet killed the auction.
> Hopefully anyone bidding is smart enough to use the registry, and
> learn
> the truth, and protect themselves.
> Hate to have anyone scammed.
> So I am posting this, for anyone not yet connected to the registry.
> Chuck
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> 11. http://www.ebay.com/itm/112316750098
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> Uh wait, I think Asa Jay conveniently forgot to mention he sold his
> Pantera!
> Welcome to the Pantera Community Steve.
> Julian
> __________________________________________________________________
> From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:37 PM
> To: Himes, Terry (397C)
> Cc: Julian Kift; The DeTomaso Registry Guy; List DeTomaso Forum
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
> For those that don't know, I purchased Asa Jay's Pantera last year.
> Currently being built into a vintage FIA GR3 racer.... I should have
> introduced myself properly.
> Regards,
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
> Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
> Direct: 312-320-5888
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> Please note our new Scottsdale address. Our phone and fax numbers
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> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Steve Lisa
> <[3]stevelisa at patentit.com>
> wrote:
> Isn't there is an option to ask the seller questions, and the
> questions
> I believe are visible. Perhaps a few well placed questions????
> Regards,
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
> Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
> Direct: [4]312-320-5888
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> Please note our new Scottsdale address. Our phone and fax numbers
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> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Himes, Terry (397C)
> <[11]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> eBay does protect you from scams. I have gotten my money back
> before
> from bad sellers before, without hassle.
> Your mileage may vary.
> I like the registry and the fact that everyone is so engaged.
> Warm
> fuzzes.
> But I'm not sure someone new to the Pantera world knows who to
> contact.
> I know I certainly didn't in 2000. I was clueless.
> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
> Terry W. Himes
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> Dawn Spacecraft Team
> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
> Phone: [12](818) 393-6261
> Cell: [13](818) 653-8213
> Fax: [14](818) 393-3147
> [1][15]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> From: DeTomaso <[2][16]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
> on
> behalf
> of Julian Kift <[3][17]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:14 PM
> To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy
> <[4][18]detomasoregistry at gmail.com>,
> List
> DeTomaso Forum <[5][19]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
> God forbid but I wonder what happens if eBay choose to let this
> run
> its
> course and someone gets burned, given they have been notified of
> potential scam?
> The seller is supposedly located in Tewksbury, MA and the car
> advertised as in San Francisco, although someone else was told
> the
> car
> is in Michigan.
> Julian
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <[6][20]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
> on
> behalf
> of Julian Kift <[7][21]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:06 PM
> To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy; List DeTomaso Forum
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
> Seller says this is chassis# 4277, which is not in the registry
> to
> verify, but certainly photos are of 4275.
> Julian
> ________________________________
> From: Julian Kift <[8][22]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:35 PM
> To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy; List DeTomaso Forum
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
> eBay may be reluctant to immediately kill it as no VIN is listed
> to
> verify the actual vehicle for sale. Albeit underhanded sellers
> will
> often use generic photos to represent items for sale.
> Also the seller has a 74 feedback, normally these scam artists
> have
> single digit feedback for a few low dollar purchases to build
> some
> credibility, maybe it is a hacked account too.
> Julian
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <[9][23]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
> on
> behalf
> of The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[10][24]detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:25 PM
> To: List DeTomaso Forum
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
> Steve L. spotted this eBay auction
> [11][25]http://www.ebay.com/itm/112316750098
> and asked me about it. Auction looks suspicious to us both.
> Finding the car in the registry, I contacted the last known owner
> to
> verify,
> as he recently bought it in December. He says the advert is not
> his,
> and the car is not for sale.
> Some people are bidding. Ebay has been contacted about the
> scam,
> but
> have not yet killed the auction.
> Hopefully anyone bidding is smart enough to use the registry, and
> learn
> the truth, and protect themselves.
> Hate to have anyone scammed.
> So I am posting this, for anyone not yet connected to the
> registry.
> Chuck
> The De Tomaso Registry Guy
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> 31. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/
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> 36. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/
> 37. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/
> 38. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> 39. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> 40. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
> 41. mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com
> 42. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 43. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> 44. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
> 45. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
> 46. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> 47. mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com
> 48. http://www.ebay.com/itm/112316750098
> 49. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
> 50. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/images/ProvaMo_TN.jpg
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> 55. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
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Hear! Hear!
Jeff
6559
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Julian Kift
<[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
A A Asa Jay,
A A No apologies needed, I just always got the impression you were
one of
A A those guys that would be buried in his Pantera, that said I am
aware
A A that you and Shelley have faced some mountainous battles and
medical
A A bills and often needs must. I equally always have respect and
A A admiration for the way you face life's challenges head on,
taking it on
A A the chin with a gracious smile (almost a smirk!) to say "is
that all
A A you have"!
A A The Mustang is a worthy successor for attention from your
skills....
A A and your continued participation in the De Tomaso community is
a
A A welcome one.
A A Julian
A A A ____________________________________________________________
______
A A From: Asa Jay Laughton <[2]asajay at asajay.com>
A A Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:24 PM
A A To: Julian Kift
A A Cc: Steve Lisa; Himes, Terry (397C) ; List DeTomaso Forum; The
DeTomaso
A A Registry Guy
A A Subject: What? Asa sold his Pantera?
A A All,
A A I stand corrected.
A A A thorough search of the current DeTomaso email forum archives
reveals
A A that my "end of ownership" email was NOT posted to this list.A My
A A sincere apologies to everyone, especially Julian who I have great
A A respect for.
A A I posted it on May 18, 2016 to the Team Pantera Racing email forum
A A here:
A A [1][3]http://teampanteraracing.com/pipermail/tpr_
teampanteraracing.com/201
A A 6-May/004029.html
A A As I recall I also sent it to the DeTomaso email forum.A However,
a
A A check of the archives reveals an email from me on the 18th that
A A indicates I was unsubscribed for a time and had to be reminded by
Kurt
A A to re-enable my subscription.A I imagine at this point my email
was
A A lost.
A A Those who are interested in the details can read all about it at
the
A A link above.
A A I'd like to give credit to Mike Drew, who in a large way brokered
the
A A purchase nearly 20 years ago, or at least brought this particular
A A Pantera to the light of day.A And to Jack DeRyke who hosted me
during
A A the inspection and helped me inspect the car.A You can read the
entire
A A story in a 2001 edition of POCA Profiles (I forget specifically
which
A A one.)
A A So, yes, it's true.A Now I'm concentrating on my 1971 Mach I
Mustang.
A A My apologies Julian, you were correct; I failed to inform the
masses.
A A AsaA A Jay
A A Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
A A Julian Kift <[4]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
A A Then my apologies, I must have either missed that post or
discarded it
A A as just more 'fake news'.....
A A A ____________________________________________________________
______
A A From: Asa Jay Laughton <[5]asajay at asajay.com>
A A Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:57 PM
A A To: Julian Kift
A A Cc: Steve Lisa; Himes, Terry (397C); List DeTomaso Forum; The
DeTomaso
A A Registry Guy
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
A A No I didn't!
A A <Insert look of incredulity>
A A Check the archives from last....A Oh probably June.A (I would,
but I'm
A A mobile at the moment.)
A A Really, I did announce it, and so far Steve is doing some awesome
"next
A A level mod" work on 5533.
A A My efforts are now going into my 1971 Mach I Mustang (that I've
owned
A A for 30 years).
A A :)
A A AsaA Jay
A A Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
A A Julian Kift <[6]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
A A Uh wait, I think Asa Jay conveniently forgot to mention he sold
his
A A Pantera!
A A Welcome to the Pantera Community Steve.
A A Julian
A A ________________________________
A A From: Steve Lisa <[7]stevelisa at patentit.com>
A A Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:37 PM
A A To: Himes, Terry (397C)
A A Cc: Julian Kift; The DeTomaso Registry Guy; List DeTomaso Forum
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
A A For those that don't know, I purchased Asa Jay's Pantera last
year.
A A Currently being built into a vintage FIA GR3 racer.... I should
have
A A introduced myself properly.
A A Regards,
A A Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
A A Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
A A Direct: 312-320-5888
A A [[8]http://www.patentit.com/eml-resources/SGL-Email-Logo.jpg]<[9]
http://www.p
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7689
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A A This email is confidential and privileged, and intended only for
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A A recipient above. If you received this email in error, please
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A A On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Steve Lisa
A A <[13]stevelisa at patentit.com<mailto:[14]stevelisa at patentit.com>>
wrote:
A A Isn't there is an option to ask the seller questions, and the
questions
A A I believe are visible.A Perhaps a few well placed questions????
A A Regards,
A A Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
A A Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
A A Direct: 312-320-5888<tel:(312)%20320-5888>
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A A Please note our new Scottsdale address.A Our phone and fax
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A A remain the same.
A A Scottsdale Office | P: 480.535.6656<tel:(480)%20535-6656>A |A F:
A A 480.535.6628<tel:(480)%20535-6628>A |A A: 7689 East Paradise
Lane,
A A Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
A A Chicago Office | P: 312.752.4357<tel:(312)%20752-4357>A |A F:
A A 312.896.5633<tel:(312)%20896-5633>A |A A: 55 E. Monroe Street,
Suite
A A 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
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A A This email is confidential and privileged, and intended only for
the
A A recipient above. If you received this email in error, please
destroy
A A all copies of it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank
you.
A A On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Himes, Terry (397C)
A A <[20]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[21]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.
gov>> wrote:
A A A eBay does protect you from scams.A I have gotten my money
back
A A before
A A A from bad sellers before, without hassle.
A A A Your mileage may vary.
A A A I like the registry and the fact that everyone is so
engaged.A Warm
A A A fuzzes.
A A A But I'm not sure someone new to the Pantera world knows who to
A A contact.
A A A A I know I certainly didn't in 2000. I was clueless.
A A A "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
A A A A stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
A A A Terry W. Himes
A A A JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
A A A Dawn Spacecraft Team
A A A Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
A A A Phone: (818) 393-6261<tel:%28818%29%20393-6261>
A A A Cell:A A A (818) 653-8213<tel:%28818%29%20653-8213>
A A A Fax:A A A (818) 393-3147<tel:%28818%29%20393-3147>
A A A [1][22]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[23]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
A A A From: DeTomaso
A A <[2][24]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[25]detoma
so-bounces at se
A A [26]rver.detomasolist.com>> on behalf
A A A of Julian Kift
A A <[3][27]julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:[28]julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>
A A A Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:14 PM
A A A To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy
A A <[4][29]detomasoregistry at gmail.com<mailto:[30]detomasoregistry@
gmail.com>>,
A A List
A A A DeTomaso Forum
A A <[5][31]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[32]detoma
so at server.detomasolis
A A [33]t.com>>
A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
A A A God forbid but I wonder what happens if eBay choose to let
this run
A A its
A A A course and someone gets burned, given they have been notified
of
A A A potential scam?
A A A The seller is supposedly located in Tewksbury, MA and the car
A A A advertised as in San Francisco, although someone else was told
the
A A car
A A A is in Michigan.
A A A Julian
A A A ________________________________
A A A From: DeTomaso
A A <[6][34]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[35]detoma
so-bounces at se
A A [36]rver.detomasolist.com>> on behalf
A A A of Julian Kift
A A <[7][37]julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:[38]julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>
A A A Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:06 PM
A A A To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy; List DeTomaso Forum
A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
A A A Seller says this is chassis# 4277, which is not in the
registry to
A A A verify, but certainly photos are of 4275.
A A A Julian
A A A ________________________________
A A A From: Julian Kift
A A <[8][39]julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:[40]julian_kift at hotmail.com
>>
A A A Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:35 PM
A A A To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy; List DeTomaso Forum
A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
A A A eBay may be reluctant to immediately kill it as no VIN is
listed to
A A A verify the actual vehicle for sale. Albeit underhanded sellers
will
A A A often use generic photos to represent items for sale.
A A A Also the seller has a 74 feedback, normally these scam artists
have
A A A single digit feedback for a few low dollar purchases to build
some
A A A credibility, maybe it is a hacked account too.
A A A Julian
A A A ________________________________
A A A From: DeTomaso
A A <[9][41]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[42]detoma
so-bounces at se
A A [43]rver.detomasolist.com>> on behalf
A A A of The DeTomaso Registry Guy
A A <[10][44]detomasoregistry at gmail.com<mailto:[45]detomasoregistry@
gmail.com>>
A A A Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:25 PM
A A A To: List DeTomaso Forum
A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
A A A Steve L. spotted this eBay auction
A A A [11][46]http://www.ebay.com/itm/112316750098
A A A and asked me about it.A Auction looks suspicious to us both.
A A A Finding the car in the registry, I contacted the last known
owner to
A A A verify,
A A A as he recently bought it in December.A He says the advert is
not
A A his,
A A A and the car is not for sale.
A A A Some people are bidding.A A Ebay has been contacted about the
scam,
A A but
A A A have not yet killed the auction.
A A A Hopefully anyone bidding is smart enough to use the registry,
and
A A learn
A A A the truth, and protect themselves.
A A A Hate to have anyone scammed.
A A A So I am posting this, for anyone not yet connected to the
registry.
A A A Chuck
A A A The De Tomaso Registry Guy
A A A [12][47]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/
ProvaMoMemMain.asp
A A [[13][48]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/images/
ProvaMo_TN.jpg]<[49]http://www.
A A [50]detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp<[51]http://
detomasoregistry
A A .org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp>>
A A A Login - DeTomaso
A A Registry<[14][52]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/
ProvaMoMemMain.asp
A A A >
A A A [53]www.detomasoregistry.org<[54]http:
//www.detomasoregistry.org>
A A A ProvaMo Login System This is the home of the DeTomaso Registry
A A Warning
A A A to AOL users: AOL seems to often block mail from
A A [[15][55]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/images/
ProvaMo_TN.jpg]<[56]http://www.
A A [57]detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp<[58]http://
detomasoregistry
A A .org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp>>
A A A Login - DeTomaso
A A Registry<[16][59]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/
ProvaMoMemMain.asp
A A A >
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//www.detomasoregistry.org><[17][62]http://ww
A A [63]w.detomasoregistry.org>
A A A ProvaMo Login System This is the home of the DeTomaso Registry
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A A References
A A A 1. mailto:[64]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<
mailto:[65]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
A A A 2.
A A mailto:[66]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<
mailto:[67]detomaso-bounces
A A @[68]server.detomasolist.com>
A A A 3. mailto:[69]julian_kift at hotmail.com
<mailto:[70]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
A A A 4.
A A mailto:[71]detomasoregistry at gmail.com<mailto:[72]detomasoregistry@
gmail.com>
A A A 5.
A A mailto:[73]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[74]detoma
so at server.detomaso
A A [75]list.com>
A A A 6.
A A mailto:[76]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<
mailto:[77]detomaso-bounces
A A @[78]server.detomasolist.com>
A A A 7. mailto:[79]julian_kift at hotmail.com
<mailto:[80]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
A A A 8. mailto:[81]julian_kift at hotmail.com
<mailto:[82]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
A A A 9.
A A mailto:[83]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<
mailto:[84]detomaso-bounces
A A @[85]server.detomasolist.com>
A A A 10.
A A mailto:[86]detomasoregistry at gmail.com<mailto:[87]detomasoregistry@
gmail.com>
A A A 11. [88]http://www.ebay.com/itm/112316750098
A A A 12. [89]http://www.detomasoregistry.
org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
A A A 13.
A A [90]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/images/ProvaMo_TN.jpg]<[91]htt
p://www.detom
A A [92]asoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp>
A A A 14. [93]http://www.detomasoregistry.
org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
A A A 15.
A A [94]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/images/ProvaMo_TN.jpg]<[95]htt
p://www.detom
A A [96]asoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp>
A A A 16. [97]http://www.detomasoregistry.
org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
A A A 17. [98]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/
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A A Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
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A A A Uh wait, I think Asa Jay conveniently forgot to mention he
sold his
A A A Pantera!
A A A Welcome to the Pantera Community Steve.
A A A Julian
A A A A ______________________________
____________________________________
A A A From: Steve Lisa <[102]stevelisa at patentit.com>
A A A Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:37 PM
A A A To: Himes, Terry (397C)
A A A Cc: Julian Kift; The DeTomaso Registry Guy; List DeTomaso
Forum
A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
A A A For those that don't know, I purchased Asa Jay's Pantera last
year.
A A A Currently being built into a vintage FIA GR3 racer.... I
should have
A A A introduced myself properly.
A A A Regards,
A A A Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
A A A Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
A A A Direct: 312-320-5888
A A A [1][SGL-Email-Logo.jpg]
A A A Please note our new Scottsdale address.A Our phone and fax
numbers
A A A remain the same.
A A A Scottsdale Office | P: 480.535.6656A |A F: 480.535.6628A
|A A: 7689
A A A East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
A A A Chicago Office | P: 312.752.4357A |A F: 312.896.5633A |A
A: 55 E.
A A A Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
A A A [2][103]www.PatentIt.com
A A A This email is confidential and privileged, and intended only
for the
A A A recipient above. If you received this email in error, please
destroy
A A A all copies of it and indicate such by return email to me.
Thank you.
A A A On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Steve Lisa
A A <[3][104]stevelisa at patentit.com>
A A A wrote:
A A A Isn't there is an option to ask the seller questions, and the
A A questions
A A A I believe are visible.A Perhaps a few well placed
questions????
A A A Regards,
A A A Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
A A A Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
A A A Direct: [4]312-320-5888
A A A [5][SGL-Email-Logo.jpg]
A A A Please note our new Scottsdale address.A Our phone and fax
numbers
A A A remain the same.
A A A Scottsdale Office | P: [6]480.535.6656A |A F:
[7]480.535.6628
A A A |A A: 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
A A A Chicago Office | P: [8]312.752.4357A |A F: [9]312.896.5633A
|A A: 55
A A E.
A A A Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
A A A [10][105]www.PatentIt.com
A A A This email is confidential and privileged, and intended only
for the
A A A recipient above. If you received this email in error, please
destroy
A A A all copies of it and indicate such by return email to me.
Thank you.
A A A On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Himes, Terry (397C)
A A A <[11][106]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
A A A A A eBay does protect you from scams.A I have gotten my
money back
A A A before
A A A A A from bad sellers before, without hassle.
A A A A A Your mileage may vary.
A A A A A I like the registry and the fact that everyone is so
engaged.
A A Warm
A A A A A fuzzes.
A A A A A But I'm not sure someone new to the Pantera world knows
who to
A A A contact.
A A A A A I know I certainly didn't in 2000. I was clueless.
A A A A A "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a
plan,
A A A A A stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
A A A A A Terry W. Himes
A A A A A JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
A A A A A Dawn Spacecraft Team
A A A A A Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
A A A A A Phone: [12](818) 393-6261
A A A A A Cell:A A A [13](818) 653-8213
A A A A A Fax:A A A [14](818) 393-3147
A A A A A [1][15][107]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
A A A A A From: DeTomaso <[2][16][108]detomaso-bounces@
server.detomasolist.com>
A A on
A A A behalf
A A A A A of Julian Kift <[3][17][109]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
A A A A A Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:14 PM
A A A A A To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy
A A <[4][18][110]detomasoregistry at gmail.com>,
A A A List
A A A A A DeTomaso Forum <[5][19][111]detomaso at server.
detomasolist.com>
A A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera
4275
A A A A A God forbid but I wonder what happens if eBay choose to
let this
A A run
A A A its
A A A A A course and someone gets burned, given they have been
notified of
A A A A A potential scam?
A A A A A The seller is supposedly located in Tewksbury, MA and the
car
A A A A A advertised as in San Francisco, although someone else was
told
A A the
A A A car
A A A A A is in Michigan.
A A A A A Julian
A A A A A ________________________________
A A A A A From: DeTomaso <[6][20][112]detomaso-bounces@
server.detomasolist.com>
A A on
A A A behalf
A A A A A of Julian Kift <[7][21][113]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
A A A A A Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:06 PM
A A A A A To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy; List DeTomaso Forum
A A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera
4275
A A A A A Seller says this is chassis# 4277, which is not in the
registry
A A to
A A A A A verify, but certainly photos are of 4275.
A A A A A Julian
A A A A A ________________________________
A A A A A From: Julian Kift <[8][22][114]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
A A A A A Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:35 PM
A A A A A To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy; List DeTomaso Forum
A A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera
4275
A A A A A eBay may be reluctant to immediately kill it as no VIN is
listed
A A to
A A A A A verify the actual vehicle for sale. Albeit underhanded
sellers
A A will
A A A A A often use generic photos to represent items for sale.
A A A A A Also the seller has a 74 feedback, normally these scam
artists
A A have
A A A A A single digit feedback for a few low dollar purchases to
build
A A some
A A A A A credibility, maybe it is a hacked account too.
A A A A A Julian
A A A A A ________________________________
A A A A A From: DeTomaso <[9][23][115]detomaso-bounces@
server.detomasolist.com>
A A on
A A A behalf
A A A A A of The DeTomaso Registry Guy
<[10][24][116]detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
A A A A A Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:25 PM
A A A A A To: List DeTomaso Forum
A A A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
A A A A A Steve L. spotted this eBay auction
A A A A A [11][25][117]http://www.ebay.com/itm/112316750098
A A A A A and asked me about it.A Auction looks suspicious to us
both.
A A A A A Finding the car in the registry, I contacted the last
known owner
A A to
A A A A A verify,
A A A A A as he recently bought it in December.A He says the
advert is not
A A A his,
A A A A A and the car is not for sale.
A A A A A Some people are bidding.A A Ebay has been contacted
about the
A A scam,
A A A but
A A A A A have not yet killed the auction.
A A A A A Hopefully anyone bidding is smart enough to use the
registry, and
A A A learn
A A A A A the truth, and protect themselves.
A A A A A Hate to have anyone scammed.
A A A A A So I am posting this, for anyone not yet connected to the
A A registry.
A A A A A Chuck
A A A A A The De Tomaso Registry Guy
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