[DeTomaso] Review--1974 Pantera L for sale

Asa Jay Laughton asajay at asajay.com
Mon Jun 26 16:26:27 EDT 2017


Personally, as described, in detail, I think it's overpriced.  Perhaps not by much, but a lot of the details presented would make me walk away at that price.  Even if I had the cash in hand.

Asa



⁣Asa  Jay  Laughton, W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, retired
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On Jun 26, 2017, 11:44, at 11:44, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>Larry,
>
>Your photos didn't come through--at least not for me?  It just says
>'image1.jpg'
>
>And you're wrong. The last six inches or so of both outer rockers are
>completely exposed on the back side. The inner rocker isn't as long as
>the outer. (They are also exposed in the front). That's what makes the
>front and rear of the rockers vulnerable to damage.  Fortunately it
>makes them easy to repair too. 
>
>Your point about rust is well taken. It's likely there will be A- and
>B-pillar work needed when the rusty sheet metal is cut away. But as a
>'driver' it's not critical that it be done right away.  However, the
>asking price should reflect the eventuality that work will be needed
>someday. I feel it's a bit aggressively priced at the moment....
>
>Mike
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jun 25, 2017, at 15:30, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
><detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Mike and all,
>> "The right-hand rocker panel has a dent at the rear, but it's easily
>> accessed from behind and could be straightened out very, very
>easily."
>> 
>> Not sure exactly what the dent you mentioned is, but if it is
>actually in the ro
>> cker there is no very, very easy access from the rear.  ;-)
>> The outer, middle and inner rocker construction extends all the way
>to the rear.
>> 
>> image1.JPG
>> 
>> This is a shot of the inner panel at the rear of the left-hand rocker
>on 2511. N
>> ote the lack of the large holes found in the middle rocker panels
>below the cabi
>> n.
>> image2.JPG
>> 
>> ( Denny Finn has removed both rockers on 2511 during the
>repair/restoration proj
>> ect for minor issues and found nothing but 45-year-old surface rust.
>)
>> The rust/paint issues Mike also noted would seem to indicate that
>bottom of A-pi
>> llars and B-pillars may require serious metal replacement once they
>are actually
>> opened up for inspection. Once(If)the B-pillar rust has seriously
>advanced it w
>> ill likely lead to rust of the inner rockers.
>> Remember, Pantera's have had 45 years for that untreated, bare
>Italian mill-grad
>> e steel to rust from the inside out. If that rust has advanced to the
>point of n
>> ow being visible externally, one should expect greater issues have
>already occur
>> red unseen.
>> Larry
>> 
>> 
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   Personally, as described, in detail, I think it's overpriced.A  Perhaps
   not by much, but a lot of the details presented would make me walk away
   at that price.A  Even if I had the cash in hand.

   Asa

   AsaA  JayA  Laughton, W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, retired

   Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks

   On Jun 26, 2017, at 11:44, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

Larry,
Your photos didn't come through--at least not for me?  It just says 'image1.jpg'
And you're wrong. The last six inches or so of both outer rockers are completely
 exposed on the back side. The inner rocker isn't as long as the outer. (They ar
e also exposed in the front). That's what makes the front and rear of the rocker
s vulnerable to damage.  Fortunately it makes them easy to repair too.
Your point about rust is well taken. It's likely there will be A- and B-pillar w
ork needed when the rusty sheet metal is cut away. But as a 'driver' it's not cr
itical that it be done right away.  However, the asking price should reflect the
 eventuality that work will be needed someday. I feel it's a bit aggressively pr
iced at the moment....
Mike
Sent from my iPad

     On Jun 25, 2017, at 15:30, Larry Finch via DeTomaso
     <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
     Mike and all,
     "The right-hand rocker panel has a dent at the rear, but it's easily
     accessed from behind and could be straightened out very, very
     easily."
     Not sure exactly what the dent you mentioned is, but if it is
     actually in the ro
     cker there is no very, very easy access from the rear. ;-)
     The outer, middle and inner rocker construction extends all the way
     to the rear.
     image1.JPG
     This is a shot of the inner panel at the rear of the left-hand
     rocker on 2511. N
     ote the lack of the large holes found in the middle rocker panels
     below the cabi
     n.
     image2.JPG
     ( Denny Finn has removed both rockers on 2511 during the
     repair/restoration proj
     ect for minor issues and found nothing but 45-year-old surface rust.
     )
     The rust/paint issues Mike also noted would seem to indicate that
     bottom of A-pi
     llars and B-pillars may require serious metal replacement once they
     are actually
     opened up for inspection. Once(If)the B-pillar rust has seriously
     advanced it w
     ill likely lead to rust of the inner rockers.
     Remember, Pantera's have had 45 years for that untreated, bare
     Italian mill-grad
     e steel to rust from the inside out. If that rust has advanced to
     the point of n
     ow being visible externally, one should expect greater issues have
     already occur
     red unseen.
     Larry
     Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
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