[DeTomaso] Oil Additives
mark skwarek
ehpantera at yahoo.com
Wed Jul 26 17:10:25 EDT 2017
If you are interested in more info regarding oil testing please go to:
https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/20/motor-oil-wear-test-ranking/
It is a very lengthy posting. Probably more than you will ever want to know.
Mark
On Wed Jul 26 2017 16:56:32 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time), mark skwarek <ehpantera at yahoo.com> wrote:
>From a posting on the PI website here is a list of the top 15 oils in 2015
Here’s the ranking list:
Wear protection reference categories are:
*** Over 90,000 psi = OUTSTANDING protection
*** 75,000 to 90,000 psi = GOOD protection
*** 60,000 to 75,000 psi = MODEST protection
*** Below 60,000 psi = UNDESIREABLE
The higher the psi number, the better the wear protection.
1. 10W30 Lucas Racing Only synthetic = 106,505 psi
zinc = 2642 ppm
phos = 3489 ppm
ZDDP= 3000 ppm
NOTE: This oil is suitable for short term racing use only, and is not suitable for street use.
2. 10W30 Valvoline NSL (Not Street Legal) Conventional Racing Oil = 103,846 psi
zinc = 1669 ppm
phos = 1518 ppm
ZDDP = 1500 ppm
NOTE: Due to its very low TBN value, this oil is only suitable for short term racing use, and is not suitable for street use.
3. 10W30 Valvoline VR1 Conventional Racing Oil (silver bottle) = 103,505 psi
zinc = 1472 ppm
phos = 1544 ppm
ZDDP = 1500 ppm
4. 10W30 Valvoline VR1 Synthetic Racing Oil, API SL (black bottle) = 101,139 psi
zinc = 1180 ppm
phos = 1112 ppm
ZDDP = 1100 ppm
5. 30 wt Red Line Race Oil synthetic = 96,470 psi
zinc = 2207 ppm
phos = 2052 ppm
ZDDP = 2100 ppm
NOTE: This oil is suitable for short term racing use only, and is not suitable for street use.
6. 10W30 Amsoil Z-Rod Oil synthetic = 95,360 psi
zinc = 1431 ppm
phos = 1441 ppm
ZDDP = 1400 ppm
7. 10W30 Quaker State Defy, API SL semi-synthetic = 90,226 psi
zinc = 1221 ppm
phos = 955 ppm
ZDDP = 1000 ppm
8. 10W30 Joe Gibbs HR4 Hotrod Oil synthetic = 86,270 psi
zinc = 1247 ppm
phos = 1137 ppm
ZDDP = 1100 ppm
9. 15W40 RED LINE Diesel Oil synthetic, API CJ-4/CI-4 PLUS/CI-4/CF/CH-4/CF-4/SM/SL/SH/EO-O = 85,663 psi
zinc = 1615 ppm
phos = 1551 ppm
ZDDP = 1500 ppm
10. 5W30 Lucas API SM synthetic = 76,584 psi
zinc = 1134 ppm
phos = 666 ppm
ZDDP = 900 ppm
11. 5W50 Castrol Edge with Syntec API SN, synthetic, formerly Castrol Syntec, black bottle = 75,409 psi
zinc = 1252 ppm
phos = 1197 ppm
ZDDP = 1200 ppm
12. 5W30 Royal Purple XPR (Extreme Performance Racing) synthetic = 74,860 psi
zinc = 1421 ppm
phos = 1338 ppm
ZDDP = 1300 ppm
13. 5W40 MOBIL 1 TURBO DIESEL TRUCK synthetic, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4 and ACEA E7 = 74,312 psi
zinc = 1211 ppm
phos = 1168 ppm
ZDDP = 1100 ppm
14. 15W40 CHEVRON DELO 400LE Diesel Oil, conventional, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CH-4, CF-4,CF/SM, = 73,520 psi
zinc = 1519 ppm
phos = 1139 ppm
ZDDP = 1300 ppm
15. 15W40 MOBIL DELVAC 1300 SUPER Diesel Oil conventional, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4/SM, SL = 73,300 psi
zinc = 1297 ppm
phos = 1944 ppm
ZDDP = 1600 ppm
Mark
On Wed Jul 26 2017 16:38:39 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time), Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
I don't think it was their fault. The ZDDP harms catalyst material, I think, and the government made oil manufacturers reduce or eliminate it to keep catalytic converters working.
I think?
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On Jul 26, 2017, at 13:34, Bjoern Flesland <bflesland at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Dave,
> What happened 5 years ago with regards to the Mobil1 if I may ask?
> I am a big fan of Mobil synthetic oils and have been so since the
> eighties in many of my cars.
> Cheers BjoernA
> ons. 26. jul. 2017 kl. 21.05 skrev Dave Londry <[1]davel at emspace.com>:
>
> Rotella T6 15W40
> Heavy duty Diesel oil is the only thing I know of with stable specs
> these days.
> (was lifetime Mobil1 user until they screwed it up 5 years ago)
> Dave
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:davel at emspace.com
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If you are interested in more info regarding oil testing please go to:
[1]https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/20/motor-oil-wear-test-rank
ing/
It is a very lengthy posting. Probably more than you will ever want to
know.
Mark
On Wed Jul 26 2017 16:56:32 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time), mark
skwarek <ehpantera at yahoo.com> wrote:
From a posting onA the PI website here is a list of the top 15 oils in
2015
Hereas the ranking list:
Wear protection reference categories are:
*** Over 90,000 psi = OUTSTANDING protection
*** 75,000 to 90,000 psi = GOOD protection
*** 60,000 to 75,000 psi = MODEST protection
*** Below 60,000 psi = UNDESIREABLE
The higher the psi number, the better the wear protection.
1. 10W30 Lucas Racing Only synthetic = 106,505 psi
zinc = 2642 ppm
phos = 3489 ppm
ZDDP= 3000 ppm
NOTE: This oil is suitable for short term racing use only, and is not
suitable for street use.
2. 10W30 Valvoline NSL (Not Street Legal) Conventional Racing Oil =
103,846 psi
zinc = 1669 ppm
phos = 1518 ppm
ZDDP = 1500 ppm
NOTE: Due to its very low TBN value, this oil is only suitable for
short term racing use, and is not suitable for street use.
3. 10W30 Valvoline VR1 Conventional Racing Oil (silver bottle) =
103,505 psi
zinc = 1472 ppm
phos = 1544 ppm
ZDDP = 1500 ppm
4. 10W30 Valvoline VR1 Synthetic Racing Oil, API SL (black bottle) =
101,139 psi
zinc = 1180 ppm
phos = 1112 ppm
ZDDP = 1100 ppm
5. 30 wt Red Line Race Oil synthetic = 96,470 psi
zinc = 2207 ppm
phos = 2052 ppm
ZDDP = 2100 ppm
NOTE: This oil is suitable for short term racing use only, and is not
suitable for street use.
6. 10W30 Amsoil Z-Rod Oil synthetic = 95,360 psi
zinc = 1431 ppm
phos = 1441 ppm
ZDDP = 1400 ppm
7. 10W30 Quaker State Defy, API SL semi-synthetic = 90,226 psi
zinc = 1221 ppm
phos = 955 ppm
ZDDP = 1000 ppm
8. 10W30 Joe Gibbs HR4 Hotrod Oil synthetic = 86,270 psi
zinc = 1247 ppm
phos = 1137 ppm
ZDDP = 1100 ppm
9. 15W40 RED LINE Diesel Oil synthetic, API CJ-4/CI-4
PLUS/CI-4/CF/CH-4/CF-4/SM/SL/SH/EO-O = 85,663 psi
zinc = 1615 ppm
phos = 1551 ppm
ZDDP = 1500 ppm
10. 5W30 Lucas API SM synthetic = 76,584 psi
zinc = 1134 ppm
phos = 666 ppm
ZDDP = 900 ppm
11. 5W50 Castrol Edge with Syntec API SN, synthetic, formerly Castrol
Syntec, black bottle = 75,409 psi
zinc = 1252 ppm
phos = 1197 ppm
ZDDP = 1200 ppm
12. 5W30 Royal Purple XPR (Extreme Performance Racing) synthetic =
74,860 psi
zinc = 1421 ppm
phos = 1338 ppm
ZDDP = 1300 ppm
13. 5W40 MOBIL 1 TURBO DIESEL TRUCK synthetic, API CJ-4, CI-4 Plus,
CI-4, CH-4 and ACEA E7 = 74,312 psi
zinc = 1211 ppm
phos = 1168 ppm
ZDDP = 1100 ppm
14. 15W40 CHEVRON DELO 400LE Diesel Oil, conventional, API CJ-4, CI-4
Plus, CH-4, CF-4,CF/SM, = 73,520 psi
zinc = 1519 ppm
phos = 1139 ppm
ZDDP = 1300 ppm
15. 15W40 MOBIL DELVAC 1300 SUPER Diesel Oil conventional, API CJ-4,
CI-4 Plus, CI-4, CH-4/SM, SL = 73,300 psi
zinc = 1297 ppm
phos = 1944 ppm
ZDDP = 1600 ppm
Mark
On Wed Jul 26 2017 16:38:39 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time), Mike Drew
via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
I don't think it was their fault. The ZDDP harms catalyst material, I
think, and the government made oil manufacturers reduce or eliminate it
to keep catalytic converters working.
I think?
Mike
Sent from my iPad
> On Jul 26, 2017, at 13:34, Bjoern Flesland <[2]bflesland at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>A Hello Dave,
>A What happened 5 years ago with regards to the Mobil1 if I may ask?
>A I am a big fan of Mobil synthetic oils and have been so since the
>A eighties in many of my cars.
>A Cheers BjoernA
>A ons. 26. jul. 2017 kl. 21.05 skrev Dave Londry
<[1][3]davel at emspace.com>:
>
>A A Rotella T6 15W40
>A A Heavy duty Diesel oil is the only thing I know of with stable
specs
>A A these days.
>A A (was lifetime Mobil1 user until they screwed it up 5 years ago)
>A A Dave
>
> References
>
>A 1. mailto:[4]davel at emspace.com
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