[DeTomaso] Urgent brake booster replacement

Larry Weston lplugw at hotmail.com
Sat Jul 22 08:47:09 EDT 2017


The booster on my 240z recently failed, the one I got from my buddy was also bad, so I did the same. Took it to the local guy, back in a week, going to put it on this morning. 

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> On Jul 21, 2017, at 10:45 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> Guy raises an excellent point, about supporting the local rebuilder so he is there for you next time when you need him. 
> 
> One could equally make the point of supporting the Pantera vendors for the same reason.  
> 
> Whether you go the local route or the Pantera vendor route, it's better than getting one from a Ferrari source. First of all, the Ferrari source will likely charge 3x the price. Too, there are zillions of Ferraris out there so those vendors don't need a y help keeping the doors open. The same isn't true of the local guys or Pantera vendors....
> 
> Mike
> 
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>> On Jul 21, 2017, at 17:04, "bill at incendium.com" <bill at incendium.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  Biting my tongue. WTF
>> 
>>  Cheers
>> 
>>  Bill Moore
>> 
>>  Calgary
>> 
>>  -------- Original message --------
>>  From: Guido deTomaso <guido_detomaso at prodigy.net>
>>  Date: 2017-07-21 5:51 PM (GMT-07:00)
>>  To: jderyke at aol.com, stevelisa at patentit.com, b.hower3400 at yahoo.com
>>  Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Urgent brake booster replacement
>> 
>>  And we all know the 308's are plentiful in junkyards ...
>>  Seriously while I would gladly throw Dennis a bone, when I need brake
>>  booster work (rarely) I go to a local guy.  I figure one more job might
>>  keep him in business till next time, lest a Jamba Juice take his place.
>>  GD
>>        From: Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>  To: stevelisa at patentit.com; b.hower3400 at yahoo.com
>>  Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>  Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:57 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Urgent brake booster replacement
>> 
>>    FWIW, the Benditalia brake booster is directly replaceable by one
>>  from
>>    a Ferrari 308-series. Note that there are two different booster can
>>    diameters depending on the year of mfg.  No rebuild parts are
>>  available
>>    to non-professionals. Good luck-
>>    -----Original Message-----
>>    From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
>>    To: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
>>    Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>    Sent: Thu, Jul 20, 2017 7:49 pm
>>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Urgent brake booster replacement
>>    Same with me...
>>    Regards,
>>    Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
>>    Email: [1]SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
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>>    On Jul 20, 2017 9:13 PM, "B Hower via DeTomaso"
>>    <[1][2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>    A A I got a rebuilt one from Dennis on and exchange and am happy
>>    with it.
>>    A A Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may
>>    not be
>>    A A ! )
>>    A A A ____________________________________________________________
>>    ______
>>    A A From: Charles Engles <[2][3]cengles at cox.net>
>>    A A To: 'Bjoern Flesland' <[3][4]bflesland at gmail.com>; 'Detomaso
>>  List'
>>    A A <[4][5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>    A A Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:07 PM
>>    A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Urgent brake booster replacement
>>    A A Dear Bjoern,
>>    A A A A A A A A A A A A A As far as I know, there are no
>>    new replacement
>>    A A brake boosters.A Pantera Performance Center sends them off for
>>    A A dis-assembly and repair from what I am told.
>>    A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
>>    A A Warmest regards,A Chuck
>>    A A Engles
>>    A A -----Original Message-----
>>    A A From: DeTomaso [[6]mailto:[1][5]detomaso-bounces@
>>    server.detomasolist.com] On
>>    A A Behalf Of Bjoern Flesland
>>    A A Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:37 PM
>>    A A To: Detomaso List
>>    A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Urgent brake booster replacement
>>    A A Hi all,
>>    A A Trying to help a friend with some parts for his DeTomaso:
>>    A A Anyone here that know where to obtain a repair kit for the
>>    brake
>>    A A booster?
>>    A A Or perhaps a new brake booster?
>>    A A It has 4 bolts and is for a 1980 GT5.
>>    A A What's the part number for the Ducato booster mentioned
>>    previously?
>>    A A Cheers Bjoern
>>    A A sA,n. 16. apr. 2017 kl. 02.03 skrev Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <
>>    A A [2][6][7]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>:
>>    A A > Would this be the Fiat Brake servo?
>>    A A > Only one I found for sale and he is out of stock
>>    A A >
>>    A A >
>>    A A [3][7][8]http://www.fiatalfadealerparts.co.uk/
>>    fiat-uno-brake-servo-fiat-brake
>>    A A -s
>>    A A > ervo-f
>>    A A > iat-uno.html
>>    A A >
>>    A A <[4][8][9]http://www.fiatalfadealerparts.co.uk/
>>    fiat-uno-brake-servo-fiat-brak
>>    A A e-
>>    A A > servo-fiat-uno.html>
>>    A A >
>>    A A >
>>    A A > -----Original Message-----
>>    A A > From: DeTomaso [[10]mailto:[5][9]detomaso-bounces@
>>    server.detomasolist.com]
>>    A A On
>>    A A > Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>>    A A > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 18:17 PM
>>    A A > To: Roland
>>    A A > Cc: [6][10][11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>    A A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Urgent brake booster replacement
>>    A A >
>>    A A > Roland,
>>    A A >
>>    A A > Hey, that's great info, thanks!
>>    A A >
>>    A A > Mike
>>    A A >
>>    A A > Sent from my iPhone
>>    A A >
>>    A A > On Apr 15, 2017, at 12:50, Roland
>>    <[7][11][12]willibillie at live.de> wrote:
>>    A A >
>>    A A > >A Yes, the bigger DT Booster has four bolts. The source is
>>    a Fiat
>>    A A Ducato
>>    A A > >A light truck. If you label a Fiat part with a Ferrari
>>    Logo, it
>>    A A tripples
>>    A A > >A the price....
>>    A A > >A Roland
>>    A A > >
>>    A A > > Mike
>>    A A > > I had ideas about using a 308 Ferrari booster myself a
>>    while back,
>>    A A > > but when I looked at my friend's 308, it was a 4-stud model
>>    that
>>    A A > > looked otherwise the same as our Pantera ones.
>>    A A > >
>>    A A > > So...I bought a new booster, sold to me as a Pantera one.
>>    It came
>>    A A > > and it also had 4 mounting studs in a square pattern but
>>    was brand
>>    A A > > new. It is also slightly larger in diameter, but you
>>    wouldn't
>>    A A notice
>>    A A > > that visually unless they were side by side. Our Pantera
>>    master
>>    A A > > cylinder fits perfectly. I didn't want to modify my
>>    existing pedal
>>    A A > > box casting, so I bought a spare on ebay, did a little alum
>>    welding
>>    A A > > and machining and installed it. I had to make a few small
>>    A A > > adjustments to the surrounding sheet metal, but nothing
>>    noticeable.
>>    A A It works great.
>>    A A > >
>>    A A > > I was told it was actually a Grp 3 or 4 model. I now have
>>    doubts
>>    A A > > about
>>    A A > that.
>>    A A > > I've never seen the back of a GT5 booster (or Grp 3 Grp4).
>>    A A > > Does anyone actually know if any Pantera or DeTomaso used
>>    this
>>    A A > > larger 4-stud booster? Or is it a Ferrari one perhaps?
>>    A A > > I think it may be a bit larger than the 308 model booster
>>    though.
>>    A A > > Photos attached.
>>    A A > >
>>    A A > > Barry
>>    A A > >
>>    A A > > ------------------------------
>>    -----------------------------------
>>    A A > > Mike Drew MikeLDrew at [12]aol.com
>>    A A > > Fri Apr 14 17:49:47 EDT 2017
>>    A A > >
>>    A A > > AJ
>>    A A > >
>>    A A > > The booster is Pantera-specific as far as I know. I worked
>>    on a car
>>    A A > > recently that had what appeared to be a stock booster, but
>>    upon
>>    A A > > examination I discovered it had four studs on the back
>>    instead of
>>    A A > > three. A previous owner had butchered the car to install it
>>    by
>>    A A > > drilling two new holes in the booster mounting bracket.
>>    A A > >
>>    A A > > I think you guys are on the trailer for the weekend....
>>    A A > >
>>    A A > > Mike
>>    A A > >
>>    A A > > Sent from my iPhone
>>    A A > >
>>    A A > > ------------------------------
>>    -----------------------------------
>>    A A > > jderyke at [13]aol.com jderyke at [14]aol.com Fri Apr 14
>>    18:03:47 EDT 2017
>>    A A > >
>>    A A > > I'm told the 308-series (308-GT4, 328, etc) Ferrari booster
>>    is a
>>    A A > > bolt-on duplicate of ours. They come as a complete assembly
>>    and
>>    A A > > should not be excessively high priced. Not sure if the
>>    F-car master
>>    A A > > cylinder swaps onto Pantera brake lines, but if the OEM
>>    master
>>    A A > > cylinder is good, it will bolt onto the new booster. Good
>>    luck, Asa
>>    A A > > Jay- J Deryke
>>    A A > >
>>    A A > >
>>    A A > > -----Original Message-----
>>    A A > > From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at [15]asajay.com>
>>    A A > > Sent: Fri, Apr 14, 2017 2:38 pm
>>    A A > > Subject: [DeTomaso] Urgent brake booster replacement
>>    A A > >
>>    A A > >
>>    A A > > My Pantera friends,
>>    A A > >
>>    A A > > We have a Pantera at the race track that has lost the
>>    vacuum
>>    A A > > booster.A Does anyone know an off-the-shelf replacement
>>    that will
>>    A A > > work?A Even if it comes from a Ferrari dealer?A We're
>>    trying to
>>    A A find
>>    A A > > one today, in order to keep racing.
>>    A A > >
>>    A A > > All help greatly appreciated.A Racing at Portland
>>    International
>>    A A > > Raceway.
>>    A A > >
>>    A A > > Asa
>>    A A > >
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