[DeTomaso] Urgent brake booster replacement
jderyke at aol.com
jderyke at aol.com
Fri Jul 21 02:57:44 EDT 2017
FWIW, the Benditalia brake booster is directly replaceable by one from a Ferrari 308-series. Note that there are two different booster can diameters depending on the year of mfg. No rebuild parts are available to non-professionals. Good luck-
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From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
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Sent: Thu, Jul 20, 2017 7:49 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Urgent brake booster replacement
Same with me...
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On Jul 20, 2017 9:13 PM, "B Hower via DeTomaso"
<[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
A A I got a rebuilt one from Dennis on and exchange and am happy
with it.
A A Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may
not be
A A ! )
A A A ____________________________________________________________
______
A A From: Charles Engles <[2]cengles at cox.net>
A A To: 'Bjoern Flesland' <[3]bflesland at gmail.com>; 'Detomaso List'
A A <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
A A Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:07 PM
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Urgent brake booster replacement
A A Dear Bjoern,
A A A A A A A A A A A A A As far as I know, there are no
new replacement
A A brake boosters.A Pantera Performance Center sends them off for
A A dis-assembly and repair from what I am told.
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
A A Warmest regards,A Chuck
A A Engles
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1][5]detomaso-bounces@
server.detomasolist.com] On
A A Behalf Of Bjoern Flesland
A A Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:37 PM
A A To: Detomaso List
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Urgent brake booster replacement
A A Hi all,
A A Trying to help a friend with some parts for his DeTomaso:
A A Anyone here that know where to obtain a repair kit for the
brake
A A booster?
A A Or perhaps a new brake booster?
A A It has 4 bolts and is for a 1980 GT5.
A A What's the part number for the Ducato booster mentioned
previously?
A A Cheers Bjoern
A A sA,n. 16. apr. 2017 kl. 02.03 skrev Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <
A A [2][6]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>:
A A > Would this be the Fiat Brake servo?
A A > Only one I found for sale and he is out of stock
A A >
A A >
A A [3][7]http://www.fiatalfadealerparts.co.uk/
fiat-uno-brake-servo-fiat-brake
A A -s
A A > ervo-f
A A > iat-uno.html
A A >
A A <[4][8]http://www.fiatalfadealerparts.co.uk/
fiat-uno-brake-servo-fiat-brak
A A e-
A A > servo-fiat-uno.html>
A A >
A A >
A A > -----Original Message-----
A A > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[5][9]detomaso-bounces@
server.detomasolist.com]
A A On
A A > Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
A A > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 18:17 PM
A A > To: Roland
A A > Cc: [6][10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Urgent brake booster replacement
A A >
A A > Roland,
A A >
A A > Hey, that's great info, thanks!
A A >
A A > Mike
A A >
A A > Sent from my iPhone
A A >
A A > On Apr 15, 2017, at 12:50, Roland
<[7][11]willibillie at live.de> wrote:
A A >
A A > >A Yes, the bigger DT Booster has four bolts. The source is
a Fiat
A A Ducato
A A > >A light truck. If you label a Fiat part with a Ferrari
Logo, it
A A tripples
A A > >A the price....
A A > >A Roland
A A > >
A A > > Mike
A A > > I had ideas about using a 308 Ferrari booster myself a
while back,
A A > > but when I looked at my friend's 308, it was a 4-stud model
that
A A > > looked otherwise the same as our Pantera ones.
A A > >
A A > > So...I bought a new booster, sold to me as a Pantera one.
It came
A A > > and it also had 4 mounting studs in a square pattern but
was brand
A A > > new. It is also slightly larger in diameter, but you
wouldn't
A A notice
A A > > that visually unless they were side by side. Our Pantera
master
A A > > cylinder fits perfectly. I didn't want to modify my
existing pedal
A A > > box casting, so I bought a spare on ebay, did a little alum
welding
A A > > and machining and installed it. I had to make a few small
A A > > adjustments to the surrounding sheet metal, but nothing
noticeable.
A A It works great.
A A > >
A A > > I was told it was actually a Grp 3 or 4 model. I now have
doubts
A A > > about
A A > that.
A A > > I've never seen the back of a GT5 booster (or Grp 3 Grp4).
A A > > Does anyone actually know if any Pantera or DeTomaso used
this
A A > > larger 4-stud booster? Or is it a Ferrari one perhaps?
A A > > I think it may be a bit larger than the 308 model booster
though.
A A > > Photos attached.
A A > >
A A > > Barry
A A > >
A A > > ------------------------------
-----------------------------------
A A > > Mike Drew MikeLDrew at [12]aol.com
A A > > Fri Apr 14 17:49:47 EDT 2017
A A > >
A A > > AJ
A A > >
A A > > The booster is Pantera-specific as far as I know. I worked
on a car
A A > > recently that had what appeared to be a stock booster, but
upon
A A > > examination I discovered it had four studs on the back
instead of
A A > > three. A previous owner had butchered the car to install it
by
A A > > drilling two new holes in the booster mounting bracket.
A A > >
A A > > I think you guys are on the trailer for the weekend....
A A > >
A A > > Mike
A A > >
A A > > Sent from my iPhone
A A > >
A A > > ------------------------------
-----------------------------------
A A > > jderyke at [13]aol.com jderyke at [14]aol.com Fri Apr 14
18:03:47 EDT 2017
A A > >
A A > > I'm told the 308-series (308-GT4, 328, etc) Ferrari booster
is a
A A > > bolt-on duplicate of ours. They come as a complete assembly
and
A A > > should not be excessively high priced. Not sure if the
F-car master
A A > > cylinder swaps onto Pantera brake lines, but if the OEM
master
A A > > cylinder is good, it will bolt onto the new booster. Good
luck, Asa
A A > > Jay- J Deryke
A A > >
A A > >
A A > > -----Original Message-----
A A > > From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at [15]asajay.com>
A A > > Sent: Fri, Apr 14, 2017 2:38 pm
A A > > Subject: [DeTomaso] Urgent brake booster replacement
A A > >
A A > >
A A > > My Pantera friends,
A A > >
A A > > We have a Pantera at the race track that has lost the
vacuum
A A > > booster.A Does anyone know an off-the-shelf replacement
that will
A A > > work?A Even if it comes from a Ferrari dealer?A We're
trying to
A A find
A A > > one today, in order to keep racing.
A A > >
A A > > All help greatly appreciated.A Racing at Portland
International
A A > > Raceway.
A A > >
A A > > Asa
A A > >
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FWIW, the Benditalia brake booster is directly replaceable by one from
a Ferrari 308-series. Note that there are two different booster can
diameters depending on the year of mfg. No rebuild parts are available
to non-professionals. Good luck-
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
To: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 20, 2017 7:49 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Urgent brake booster replacement
Same with me...
Regards,
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
Email: [1]SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
Direct: 312-320-5888
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On Jul 20, 2017 9:13 PM, "B Hower via DeTomaso"
<[1][2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
A A I got a rebuilt one from Dennis on and exchange and am happy
with it.
A A Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may
not be
A A ! )
A A A ____________________________________________________________
______
A A From: Charles Engles <[2][3]cengles at cox.net>
A A To: 'Bjoern Flesland' <[3][4]bflesland at gmail.com>; 'Detomaso List'
A A <[4][5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
A A Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:07 PM
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Urgent brake booster replacement
A A Dear Bjoern,
A A A A A A A A A A A A A As far as I know, there are no
new replacement
A A brake boosters.A Pantera Performance Center sends them off for
A A dis-assembly and repair from what I am told.
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
A A Warmest regards,A Chuck
A A Engles
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: DeTomaso [[6]mailto:[1][5]detomaso-bounces@
server.detomasolist.com] On
A A Behalf Of Bjoern Flesland
A A Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:37 PM
A A To: Detomaso List
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Urgent brake booster replacement
A A Hi all,
A A Trying to help a friend with some parts for his DeTomaso:
A A Anyone here that know where to obtain a repair kit for the
brake
A A booster?
A A Or perhaps a new brake booster?
A A It has 4 bolts and is for a 1980 GT5.
A A What's the part number for the Ducato booster mentioned
previously?
A A Cheers Bjoern
A A sA,n. 16. apr. 2017 kl. 02.03 skrev Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <
A A [2][6][7]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>:
A A > Would this be the Fiat Brake servo?
A A > Only one I found for sale and he is out of stock
A A >
A A >
A A [3][7][8]http://www.fiatalfadealerparts.co.uk/
fiat-uno-brake-servo-fiat-brake
A A -s
A A > ervo-f
A A > iat-uno.html
A A >
A A <[4][8][9]http://www.fiatalfadealerparts.co.uk/
fiat-uno-brake-servo-fiat-brak
A A e-
A A > servo-fiat-uno.html>
A A >
A A >
A A > -----Original Message-----
A A > From: DeTomaso [[10]mailto:[5][9]detomaso-bounces@
server.detomasolist.com]
A A On
A A > Behalf Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
A A > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 18:17 PM
A A > To: Roland
A A > Cc: [6][10][11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Urgent brake booster replacement
A A >
A A > Roland,
A A >
A A > Hey, that's great info, thanks!
A A >
A A > Mike
A A >
A A > Sent from my iPhone
A A >
A A > On Apr 15, 2017, at 12:50, Roland
<[7][11][12]willibillie at live.de> wrote:
A A >
A A > >A Yes, the bigger DT Booster has four bolts. The source is
a Fiat
A A Ducato
A A > >A light truck. If you label a Fiat part with a Ferrari
Logo, it
A A tripples
A A > >A the price....
A A > >A Roland
A A > >
A A > > Mike
A A > > I had ideas about using a 308 Ferrari booster myself a
while back,
A A > > but when I looked at my friend's 308, it was a 4-stud model
that
A A > > looked otherwise the same as our Pantera ones.
A A > >
A A > > So...I bought a new booster, sold to me as a Pantera one.
It came
A A > > and it also had 4 mounting studs in a square pattern but
was brand
A A > > new. It is also slightly larger in diameter, but you
wouldn't
A A notice
A A > > that visually unless they were side by side. Our Pantera
master
A A > > cylinder fits perfectly. I didn't want to modify my
existing pedal
A A > > box casting, so I bought a spare on ebay, did a little alum
welding
A A > > and machining and installed it. I had to make a few small
A A > > adjustments to the surrounding sheet metal, but nothing
noticeable.
A A It works great.
A A > >
A A > > I was told it was actually a Grp 3 or 4 model. I now have
doubts
A A > > about
A A > that.
A A > > I've never seen the back of a GT5 booster (or Grp 3 Grp4).
A A > > Does anyone actually know if any Pantera or DeTomaso used
this
A A > > larger 4-stud booster? Or is it a Ferrari one perhaps?
A A > > I think it may be a bit larger than the 308 model booster
though.
A A > > Photos attached.
A A > >
A A > > Barry
A A > >
A A > > ------------------------------
-----------------------------------
A A > > Mike Drew MikeLDrew at [12]aol.com
A A > > Fri Apr 14 17:49:47 EDT 2017
A A > >
A A > > AJ
A A > >
A A > > The booster is Pantera-specific as far as I know. I worked
on a car
A A > > recently that had what appeared to be a stock booster, but
upon
A A > > examination I discovered it had four studs on the back
instead of
A A > > three. A previous owner had butchered the car to install it
by
A A > > drilling two new holes in the booster mounting bracket.
A A > >
A A > > I think you guys are on the trailer for the weekend....
A A > >
A A > > Mike
A A > >
A A > > Sent from my iPhone
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A A > > ------------------------------
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A A > > jderyke at [13]aol.com jderyke at [14]aol.com Fri Apr 14
18:03:47 EDT 2017
A A > >
A A > > I'm told the 308-series (308-GT4, 328, etc) Ferrari booster
is a
A A > > bolt-on duplicate of ours. They come as a complete assembly
and
A A > > should not be excessively high priced. Not sure if the
F-car master
A A > > cylinder swaps onto Pantera brake lines, but if the OEM
master
A A > > cylinder is good, it will bolt onto the new booster. Good
luck, Asa
A A > > Jay- J Deryke
A A > >
A A > >
A A > > -----Original Message-----
A A > > From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at [15]asajay.com>
A A > > Sent: Fri, Apr 14, 2017 2:38 pm
A A > > Subject: [DeTomaso] Urgent brake booster replacement
A A > >
A A > >
A A > > My Pantera friends,
A A > >
A A > > We have a Pantera at the race track that has lost the
vacuum
A A > > booster.A Does anyone know an off-the-shelf replacement
that will
A A > > work?A Even if it comes from a Ferrari dealer?A We're
trying to
A A find
A A > > one today, in order to keep racing.
A A > >
A A > > All help greatly appreciated.A Racing at Portland
International
A A > > Raceway.
A A > >
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