[DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work

Mike Thomas mbefthomas at comcast.net
Sun Jan 29 13:32:08 EST 2017


Copy that . . . 

 

From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:30 AM
To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; 'Stephen' <steve at snclocks.com>;
'Matt' <nwpantera at gmail.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work

 

That is great news on the brass syncros, but also attests to the fact that
you simply are not driving your car enough if you cover an average 625 miles
a year! shame... ding... shame... ding... shame... ding...

 

Julian

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From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net <mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net> >
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:16 AM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Stephen'; 'Matt'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work 

 

I just had occasion to have my ZF inspected by Byron Sanborn (drifting out
of third gear - another story).  He rebuilt the box about 8 years ago and
put the same brass syncros in that Dennis uses (sourced them from Dennis).
After eight years and probably 5000 miles, he said there was on visible wear
on them, or anything else.

Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
Yellow '74 #6328




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Of Julian Kift
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To: Stephen <steve at snclocks.com <mailto:steve at snclocks.com> >; 'Matt'
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work

My ZF was done by Dennis and has performed well, but for the sake of full
disclosure I understand Dennis uses brass syncro rings, whereas Llloyd
owning all the rights to the ZF transaxle uses oem spec steel. Some folks
have expressed concern over the brass syncros in the past.


Julian

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<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> > on behalf of
Stephen <steve at snclocks.com <mailto:steve at snclocks.com> >
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:39 AM
To: 'Matt'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work

Good morning Matt.  I can't really tell - are you looking for a shop to do
all the work?  To me, the most important part is to get the engine seriously
right - so I would focus on finding a shop that can do the best possible for
a 351C.   I chose Aldridge Motorsports here in Vancouver, WA.
http://www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com/  He is very good with these engines
and can likely do what you want done on the car.  And do it well.  On the
transaxle - I talked to Byron Sanborn about doing my ZF - he was honest
enough to say it would be a loooong time before he could get to it.  Sent
mine to Dennis at Pantera Performance - He is just plain good, and turned it
quickly.
Welcome to Aldridge Motorsports<http://www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com/>
www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com <http://www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com> 
For over 52 years, Aldridge Motorsports has shared it's knowledge and given
great customer service. Our goal is to sell you better products for better
results!




If you decide to go with Denny Aldridge, I can lend you the shipping
container I used to send my ZF to Dennis.

Hope this helps...  If you are ever down in Vancouver - stop on by!

Stephen Nelson



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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Matt
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:54 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
Subject: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work

This is mostly for the NW clan, but I'm reaching out to all for any advice.
My engine is starting to smoke slightly. Mostly coming out of the passenger
side exhaust. Not white smoke, just the light grey oil kind. More on initial
startup then tapering off. I would then suspect maybe valve guides are the
issue, correct?
Regardless I have wanted to rebuild it for some time due to some pissy oil
leaks and general lack of performance. Plus I've wanted to have the ZF
inspected since I've bought it (I know,bad me).
It's got about 60,000 miles, stock 351C 4V. Not the original motor.
I've changed it out to E.I.(Duraspark2) but nothing else internally.
I'm also in the process of converting to a Kirk Evans flat firewall kit and
need some A/C help to finish that. Oh yeah and some suspension work!
The paint sucks but I like not having to worry about it and I'll let the
next guy strip it down. But of course if the price is right...
For now I like it as a driver and would just be happy to make it go, stop
and handle like it should. I do not have the facilities,tools nor the
knowledge to do what this car deserves. I know just enough to be dangerous
and I want it to be done right.

Soooo, my question to you fine folks is can anyone recommend a shop or
person qualified to help me out located somewhere in the NW territory?
Thank you for your time and any direction you can point me, Matt
3584

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   From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
   Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:30 AM
   To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; 'Stephen'
   <steve at snclocks.com>; 'Matt' <nwpantera at gmail.com>;
   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work


   That is great news on the brass syncros, but also attests to the fact
   that you simply are not driving your car enough if you cover an average
   625 miles  a year! shame... ding... shame... ding... shame... ding...


   Julian
    _____________________________________________________________________

   From: Mike Thomas <[1]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
   Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:16 AM
   To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Stephen'; 'Matt';
   [2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work


   I just had occasion to have my ZF inspected by Byron Sanborn (drifting
   out
   of third gear - another story).  He rebuilt the box about 8 years ago
   and
   put the same brass syncros in that Dennis uses (sourced them from
   Dennis).
   After eight years and probably 5000 miles, he said there was on visible
   wear
   on them, or anything else.
   Mike Thomas
   Pres., Panteras Northwest
   Yellow '74 #6328
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[3]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf
   Of Julian Kift
   Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:53 AM
   To: Stephen <[4]steve at snclocks.com>; 'Matt' <[5]nwpantera at gmail.com>;
   [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
   My ZF was done by Dennis and has performed well, but for the sake of
   full
   disclosure I understand Dennis uses brass syncro rings, whereas Llloyd
   owning all the rights to the ZF transaxle uses oem spec steel. Some
   folks
   have expressed concern over the brass syncros in the past.
   Julian
   ________________________________
   From: DeTomaso <[7]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
   of
   Stephen <[8]steve at snclocks.com>
   Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:39 AM
   To: 'Matt'; [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
   Good morning Matt.  I can't really tell - are you looking for a shop to
   do
   all the work?  To me, the most important part is to get the engine
   seriously
   right - so I would focus on finding a shop that can do the best
   possible for
   a 351C.   I chose Aldridge Motorsports here in Vancouver, WA.
   [10]http://www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com/  He is very good with these
   engines
   and can likely do what you want done on the car.  And do it well.  On
   the
   transaxle - I talked to Byron Sanborn about doing my ZF - he was honest
   enough to say it would be a loooong time before he could get to it.
   Sent
   mine to Dennis at Pantera Performance - He is just plain good, and
   turned it
   quickly.
   Welcome to Aldridge
   Motorsports<[11]http://www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com/>
   [12]www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com
   For over 52 years, Aldridge Motorsports has shared it's knowledge and
   given
   great customer service. Our goal is to sell you better products for
   better
   results!
   If you decide to go with Denny Aldridge, I can lend you the shipping
   container I used to send my ZF to Dennis.
   Hope this helps...  If you are ever down in Vancouver - stop on by!
   Stephen Nelson
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[13]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf
   Of Matt
   Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:54 PM
   To: [14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
   This is mostly for the NW clan, but I'm reaching out to all for any
   advice.
   My engine is starting to smoke slightly. Mostly coming out of the
   passenger
   side exhaust. Not white smoke, just the light grey oil kind. More on
   initial
   startup then tapering off. I would then suspect maybe valve guides are
   the
   issue, correct?
   Regardless I have wanted to rebuild it for some time due to some pissy
   oil
   leaks and general lack of performance. Plus I've wanted to have the ZF
   inspected since I've bought it (I know,bad me).
   It's got about 60,000 miles, stock 351C 4V. Not the original motor.
   I've changed it out to E.I.(Duraspark2) but nothing else internally.
   I'm also in the process of converting to a Kirk Evans flat firewall kit
   and
   need some A/C help to finish that. Oh yeah and some suspension work!
   The paint sucks but I like not having to worry about it and I'll let
   the
   next guy strip it down. But of course if the price is right...
   For now I like it as a driver and would just be happy to make it go,
   stop
   and handle like it should. I do not have the facilities,tools nor the
   knowledge to do what this car deserves. I know just enough to be
   dangerous
   and I want it to be done right.
   Soooo, my question to you fine folks is can anyone recommend a shop or
   person qualified to help me out located somewhere in the NW territory?
   Thank you for your time and any direction you can point me, Matt
   3584
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