[DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
bill at incendium.com
bill at incendium.com
Sun Jan 29 10:39:47 EST 2017
6250 miles a year is not even half of what we do. Mike does not like to leave the left Coast.
CheersBill MooreCalgary
-------- Original message --------From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> Date: 2017-01-29 8:30 AM (GMT-07:00) To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, 'Stephen' <steve at snclocks.com>, 'Matt' <nwpantera at gmail.com>, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
That is great news on the brass syncros, but also attests to the fact that you simply are not driving your car enough if you cover an average 625 miles a year! shame... ding... shame... ding... shame... ding...
Julian
________________________________
From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:16 AM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Stephen'; 'Matt'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
I just had occasion to have my ZF inspected by Byron Sanborn (drifting out
of third gear - another story). He rebuilt the box about 8 years ago and
put the same brass syncros in that Dennis uses (sourced them from Dennis).
After eight years and probably 5000 miles, he said there was on visible wear
on them, or anything else.
Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
Yellow '74 #6328
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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Julian Kift
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:53 AM
To: Stephen <steve at snclocks.com>; 'Matt' <nwpantera at gmail.com>;
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
My ZF was done by Dennis and has performed well, but for the sake of full
disclosure I understand Dennis uses brass syncro rings, whereas Llloyd
owning all the rights to the ZF transaxle uses oem spec steel. Some folks
have expressed concern over the brass syncros in the past.
Julian
________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Stephen <steve at snclocks.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:39 AM
To: 'Matt'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
Good morning Matt. I can't really tell - are you looking for a shop to do
all the work? To me, the most important part is to get the engine seriously
right - so I would focus on finding a shop that can do the best possible for
a 351C. I chose Aldridge Motorsports here in Vancouver, WA.
http://www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com/ He is very good with these engines
and can likely do what you want done on the car. And do it well. On the
transaxle - I talked to Byron Sanborn about doing my ZF - he was honest
enough to say it would be a loooong time before he could get to it. Sent
mine to Dennis at Pantera Performance - He is just plain good, and turned it
quickly.
Welcome to Aldridge Motorsports<http://www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com/>
www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com<http://www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com>
For over 52 years, Aldridge Motorsports has shared it's knowledge and given
great customer service. Our goal is to sell you better products for better
results!
If you decide to go with Denny Aldridge, I can lend you the shipping
container I used to send my ZF to Dennis.
Hope this helps... If you are ever down in Vancouver - stop on by!
Stephen Nelson
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Matt
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:54 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
This is mostly for the NW clan, but I'm reaching out to all for any advice.
My engine is starting to smoke slightly. Mostly coming out of the passenger
side exhaust. Not white smoke, just the light grey oil kind. More on initial
startup then tapering off. I would then suspect maybe valve guides are the
issue, correct?
Regardless I have wanted to rebuild it for some time due to some pissy oil
leaks and general lack of performance. Plus I've wanted to have the ZF
inspected since I've bought it (I know,bad me).
It's got about 60,000 miles, stock 351C 4V. Not the original motor.
I've changed it out to E.I.(Duraspark2) but nothing else internally.
I'm also in the process of converting to a Kirk Evans flat firewall kit and
need some A/C help to finish that. Oh yeah and some suspension work!
The paint sucks but I like not having to worry about it and I'll let the
next guy strip it down. But of course if the price is right...
For now I like it as a driver and would just be happy to make it go, stop
and handle like it should. I do not have the facilities,tools nor the
knowledge to do what this car deserves. I know just enough to be dangerous
and I want it to be done right.
Soooo, my question to you fine folks is can anyone recommend a shop or
person qualified to help me out located somewhere in the NW territory?
Thank you for your time and any direction you can point me, Matt
3584
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That is great news on the brass syncros, but also attests to the fact
that you simply are not driving your car enough if you cover an average
625 miles a year! shame... ding... shame... ding... shame... ding...
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:16 AM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Stephen'; 'Matt'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
I just had occasion to have my ZF inspected by Byron Sanborn (drifting
out
of third gear - another story). He rebuilt the box about 8 years ago
and
put the same brass syncros in that Dennis uses (sourced them from
Dennis).
After eight years and probably 5000 miles, he said there was on visible
wear
on them, or anything else.
Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
Yellow '74 #6328
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From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf
Of Julian Kift
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:53 AM
To: Stephen <steve at snclocks.com>; 'Matt' <nwpantera at gmail.com>;
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
My ZF was done by Dennis and has performed well, but for the sake of
full
disclosure I understand Dennis uses brass syncro rings, whereas Llloyd
owning all the rights to the ZF transaxle uses oem spec steel. Some
folks
have expressed concern over the brass syncros in the past.
Julian
________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Stephen <steve at snclocks.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:39 AM
To: 'Matt'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
Good morning Matt. I can't really tell - are you looking for a shop to
do
all the work? To me, the most important part is to get the engine
seriously
right - so I would focus on finding a shop that can do the best
possible for
a 351C. I chose Aldridge Motorsports here in Vancouver, WA.
[2]http://www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com/ He is very good with these
engines
and can likely do what you want done on the car. And do it well. On
the
transaxle - I talked to Byron Sanborn about doing my ZF - he was honest
enough to say it would be a loooong time before he could get to it.
Sent
mine to Dennis at Pantera Performance - He is just plain good, and
turned it
quickly.
Welcome to Aldridge
Motorsports<[3]http://www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com/>
[4]www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com
For over 52 years, Aldridge Motorsports has shared it's knowledge and
given
great customer service. Our goal is to sell you better products for
better
results!
If you decide to go with Denny Aldridge, I can lend you the shipping
container I used to send my ZF to Dennis.
Hope this helps... If you are ever down in Vancouver - stop on by!
Stephen Nelson
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[5]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf
Of Matt
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:54 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
This is mostly for the NW clan, but I'm reaching out to all for any
advice.
My engine is starting to smoke slightly. Mostly coming out of the
passenger
side exhaust. Not white smoke, just the light grey oil kind. More on
initial
startup then tapering off. I would then suspect maybe valve guides are
the
issue, correct?
Regardless I have wanted to rebuild it for some time due to some pissy
oil
leaks and general lack of performance. Plus I've wanted to have the ZF
inspected since I've bought it (I know,bad me).
It's got about 60,000 miles, stock 351C 4V. Not the original motor.
I've changed it out to E.I.(Duraspark2) but nothing else internally.
I'm also in the process of converting to a Kirk Evans flat firewall kit
and
need some A/C help to finish that. Oh yeah and some suspension work!
The paint sucks but I like not having to worry about it and I'll let
the
next guy strip it down. But of course if the price is right...
For now I like it as a driver and would just be happy to make it go,
stop
and handle like it should. I do not have the facilities,tools nor the
knowledge to do what this car deserves. I know just enough to be
dangerous
and I want it to be done right.
Soooo, my question to you fine folks is can anyone recommend a shop or
person qualified to help me out located somewhere in the NW territory?
Thank you for your time and any direction you can point me, Matt
3584
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6250 miles a year is not even half of what we do. Mike does not like to
leave the left Coast.
Cheers
Bill Moore
Calgary
-------- Original message --------
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Date: 2017-01-29 8:30 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, 'Stephen'
<steve at snclocks.com>, 'Matt' <nwpantera at gmail.com>,
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
That is great news on the brass syncros, but also attests to the fact
that you simply are not driving your car enough if you cover an average
625 miles a year! shame... ding... shame... ding... shame... ding...
Julian
________________________________
From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:16 AM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Stephen'; 'Matt'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
I just had occasion to have my ZF inspected by Byron Sanborn (drifting
out
of third gear - another story). He rebuilt the box about 8 years ago
and
put the same brass syncros in that Dennis uses (sourced them from
Dennis).
After eight years and probably 5000 miles, he said there was on visible
wear
on them, or anything else.
Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
Yellow '74 #6328
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf
Of Julian Kift
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:53 AM
To: Stephen <steve at snclocks.com>; 'Matt' <nwpantera at gmail.com>;
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
My ZF was done by Dennis and has performed well, but for the sake of
full
disclosure I understand Dennis uses brass syncro rings, whereas Llloyd
owning all the rights to the ZF transaxle uses oem spec steel. Some
folks
have expressed concern over the brass syncros in the past.
Julian
________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Stephen <steve at snclocks.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:39 AM
To: 'Matt'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
Good morning Matt. I can't really tell - are you looking for a shop to
do
all the work? To me, the most important part is to get the engine
seriously
right - so I would focus on finding a shop that can do the best
possible for
a 351C. I chose Aldridge Motorsports here in Vancouver, WA.
http://www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com/ He is very good with these
engines
and can likely do what you want done on the car. And do it well. On
the
transaxle - I talked to Byron Sanborn about doing my ZF - he was honest
enough to say it would be a loooong time before he could get to it.
Sent
mine to Dennis at Pantera Performance - He is just plain good, and
turned it
quickly.
Welcome to Aldridge Motorsports<http://www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com/>
www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com<http://www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com>
For over 52 years, Aldridge Motorsports has shared it's knowledge and
given
great customer service. Our goal is to sell you better products for
better
results!
If you decide to go with Denny Aldridge, I can lend you the shipping
container I used to send my ZF to Dennis.
Hope this helps... If you are ever down in Vancouver - stop on by!
Stephen Nelson
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf
Of Matt
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:54 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
This is mostly for the NW clan, but I'm reaching out to all for any
advice.
My engine is starting to smoke slightly. Mostly coming out of the
passenger
side exhaust. Not white smoke, just the light grey oil kind. More on
initial
startup then tapering off. I would then suspect maybe valve guides are
the
issue, correct?
Regardless I have wanted to rebuild it for some time due to some pissy
oil
leaks and general lack of performance. Plus I've wanted to have the ZF
inspected since I've bought it (I know,bad me).
It's got about 60,000 miles, stock 351C 4V. Not the original motor.
I've changed it out to E.I.(Duraspark2) but nothing else internally.
I'm also in the process of converting to a Kirk Evans flat firewall kit
and
need some A/C help to finish that. Oh yeah and some suspension work!
The paint sucks but I like not having to worry about it and I'll let
the
next guy strip it down. But of course if the price is right...
For now I like it as a driver and would just be happy to make it go,
stop
and handle like it should. I do not have the facilities,tools nor the
knowledge to do what this car deserves. I know just enough to be
dangerous
and I want it to be done right.
Soooo, my question to you fine folks is can anyone recommend a shop or
person qualified to help me out located somewhere in the NW territory?
Thank you for your time and any direction you can point me, Matt
3584
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That is great news on the brass syncros, but also attests to the
fact
that you simply are not driving your car enough if you cover an
average
625 miles a year! shame... ding... shame... ding... shame...
ding...
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:16 AM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Stephen'; 'Matt';
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
I just had occasion to have my ZF inspected by Byron Sanborn
(drifting
out
of third gear - another story). He rebuilt the box about 8 years
ago
and
put the same brass syncros in that Dennis uses (sourced them from
Dennis).
After eight years and probably 5000 miles, he said there was on
visible
wear
on them, or anything else.
Mike Thomas
Pres., Panteras Northwest
Yellow '74 #6328
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On
Behalf
Of Julian Kift
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:53 AM
To: Stephen <steve at snclocks.com>; 'Matt' <nwpantera at gmail.com>;
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
My ZF was done by Dennis and has performed well, but for the sake of
full
disclosure I understand Dennis uses brass syncro rings, whereas
Llloyd
owning all the rights to the ZF transaxle uses oem spec steel. Some
folks
have expressed concern over the brass syncros in the past.
Julian
________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
of
Stephen <steve at snclocks.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:39 AM
To: 'Matt'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
Good morning Matt. I can't really tell - are you looking for a shop
to
do
all the work? To me, the most important part is to get the engine
seriously
right - so I would focus on finding a shop that can do the best
possible for
a 351C. I chose Aldridge Motorsports here in Vancouver, WA.
[2]http://www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com/ He is very good with
these
engines
and can likely do what you want done on the car. And do it well.
On
the
transaxle - I talked to Byron Sanborn about doing my ZF - he was
honest
enough to say it would be a loooong time before he could get to it.
Sent
mine to Dennis at Pantera Performance - He is just plain good, and
turned it
quickly.
Welcome to Aldridge
Motorsports<[3]http://www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com/>
[4]www.aldridgemotorsportsinc.com
For over 52 years, Aldridge Motorsports has shared it's knowledge
and
given
great customer service. Our goal is to sell you better products for
better
results!
If you decide to go with Denny Aldridge, I can lend you the shipping
container I used to send my ZF to Dennis.
Hope this helps... If you are ever down in Vancouver - stop on by!
Stephen Nelson
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[5]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On
Behalf
Of Matt
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:54 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] NW brothers-engine work
This is mostly for the NW clan, but I'm reaching out to all for any
advice.
My engine is starting to smoke slightly. Mostly coming out of the
passenger
side exhaust. Not white smoke, just the light grey oil kind. More on
initial
startup then tapering off. I would then suspect maybe valve guides
are
the
issue, correct?
Regardless I have wanted to rebuild it for some time due to some
pissy
oil
leaks and general lack of performance. Plus I've wanted to have the
ZF
inspected since I've bought it (I know,bad me).
It's got about 60,000 miles, stock 351C 4V. Not the original motor.
I've changed it out to E.I.(Duraspark2) but nothing else internally.
I'm also in the process of converting to a Kirk Evans flat firewall
kit
and
need some A/C help to finish that. Oh yeah and some suspension work!
The paint sucks but I like not having to worry about it and I'll let
the
next guy strip it down. But of course if the price is right...
For now I like it as a driver and would just be happy to make it go,
stop
and handle like it should. I do not have the facilities,tools nor
the
knowledge to do what this car deserves. I know just enough to be
dangerous
and I want it to be done right.
Soooo, my question to you fine folks is can anyone recommend a shop
or
person qualified to help me out located somewhere in the NW
territory?
Thank you for your time and any direction you can point me, Matt
3584
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