[DeTomaso] Radiator Dilemma
Thomas Törnblom
tipo874 at gmail.com
Thu Jan 26 15:23:18 EST 2017
> 26 jan. 2017 kl. 21:16 skrev Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
>
> That is quite noticeable for 5 months from you prior inspection and
> report, how often has the car been used during the winter period?
Not at all during winter, and not much since I pulled it last.
>
> Does the propylene glycol you are using have the same corrosion
> inhibitors as found in ethylene glycol? I have use propylene glycol for
> boat engine and RV winterization here in the US and I don't think it
> had any corrosion inhibitors.
I believe it has corrosion inhibitors, but I haven't replaced the coolant in a few years, so the inhibitors may have worn out.
>
> Is stagnant coolant that sits more or less likely to increase galvanic
> corrosion?
No idea.
>
> Julian
Thomas
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> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> Thomas Toernblom <thomas at hax.se>
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator Dilemma
>
> Pulled the anode again today, and now it shows wear. I suspect that it
> had some coating initially that protected it.
> [cid:1a474657-dce3-4800-bc14-96a662cfbf5f at namprd18.prod.outlook.com]
>> 15 aug. 2016 kl. 22:46 skrev Thomas Tornblom <thomas at hax.se>:
>>
>> I just pulled the anode for checking, and it shows no wear, which I
> attribute to the use of soft water (I have a softener in my house) and
> 1/3 propylene glycol.
>>
>> I cleaned it with an abrasive scotch brite and inserted it again.
> I'll check again in a couple of years.
>>
>> I have not had to replace the magnesium anode in my boiler either,
> and it has been in use since 2004. It has an indicator that turns red
> when it needs to be replaced, and it is still white, which probably
> indicates that the water is soft.
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>> Den 2016-08-10 kl. 09:06, skrev thomas:
>>> I have not checked the anode since I installed it. I should perhaps
> do that.
>>> I used the radiator without an anode for a few years initially.
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>>> 10 aug. 2016 kl. 08:44 skrev Roland <willibillie at live.de>:
>>>>
>>>> Interesting about the anode. How often did you have to change it in
> ten years?
>>>>
>>>> Roland
>>>>
>>>>> Am 10.08.2016 um 03:14 schrieb Thomas Toernblom
> <tipo874 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> I installed a magnesium anode instead of the drain cock in my
> Fluidyne radiator a few years back. I've had this radiator for well
> over ten years without issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use propylene antifreeze and soft water.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>
>>>>>> 9 aug. 2016 kl. 23:29 skrev Larry Stock
> <larrys at panteraparts.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Pantera Parts Connection Fluidyne system with shroud and fans
> runs
>>>>>> $1250.00 complete. We have never had one fail since running the
> No-rossion
>>>>>> water treatment additive to insure the Lucas electrical back-feed
> doesn^1t
>>>>>> turn the Aluminum radiator into an anode, which is the main
> reason for
>>>>>> aluminum radiators to fail. BTW Soft water works best for filling
> your
>>>>>> system against electrolysis. Larry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/9/16, 1:28 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken and Lela
> MacArthur"
>>>>>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
> klckmac at msn.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jack,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I received lots of good feedback on radiators recently as you
> may have
>>>>>>> seen. I have an older Hall Brass radiator that was in good shape
>>>>>>> overall in our car which I decided to repair for a couple
> hundred bucks
>>>>>>> and add their Mariah fans since mine were stock. Many people
> like the
>>>>>>> Hall one. Many liked aluminum, especially the Ron Davis sold by
> Pantera
>>>>>>> Performance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dennis Quella @ [1]http://panteraperformance.com/ was
> recommended for
>>>>>>> a high quality, all tig welded aluminum setup from Ron Davis
> racing. I
>>>>>>> was told they do not stock them and they special order them as
> needed,
>>>>>>> takes about 3 weeks to a month. I believe his radiator and fans
> package
>>>>>>> are around $1600.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doing some research, I came across Brassworks, haven't heard of
> anyone
>>>>>>> but they do reference a Pantera owner on their site. They are
> kind of
>>>>>>> expensive, around $1300. There may be other Brass/copper
> radiators done
>>>>>>> by others, but I haven't seen any.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sooo, timing and money were one factor for us, plus our radiator
> is
>>>>>>> repairable and works well, will work even better once the fans
> and
>>>>>>> correct relays are in. The Hall radiator is around $600 brand
> new.
>>>>>>> [2]http://hallpantera.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope this helps some, good luck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ken MacArthur
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 72L 4443
>>>>>>>
> __________________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
> behalf of
>>>>>>> Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 12:32 PM
>>>>>>> To: 'Jack Donahue'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>>>>> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator Dilemma
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Jack:
>>>>>>> What seems to be the problem with your existing setup, you have
> had it
>>>>>>> 12 years ?
>>>>>>> Cheers:
>>>>>>> Please use my bill at incendium.com email address in all messages.
>>>>>>> Bill Moore
>>>>>>> Incendium Supply Ltd.
>>>>>>> Suite 416, #305-4625 Varsity Drive N.W.
>>>>>>> Calgary, AB T3A 0Z9
>>>>>>> 403.202.0055
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: DeTomaso
> [[3]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Jack Donahue
>>>>>>> Sent: August-09-16 1:23 PM
>>>>>>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>>>>> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Radiator Dilemma
>>>>>>> Hey all - I need some good advice on radiators. I currently have
> a
>>>>>>> Fluidyne performance unit without a shroud. I've been told that
> a
>>>>>>> shroud is a necessity, which I understand. I've had it for about
> 12
>>>>>>> years now - no leaks. The rumblings on The List lean towards a
> unit by
>>>>>>> Dennis Quella(?) - don't know the correct spelling or the
> company, but
>>>>>>> the last I had read from someone was just to get his radiator
> and "be
>>>>>>> done with it". I think it was a double-pass (I guess that's
> good) - and
>>>>>>> I assume it's shrouded. Another side of me asks - which is
> better -
>>>>>>> copper or aluminum? And Why? I know the copper units are
> heavier, but I
>>>>>>> am not concerned about extra weight. I am familiar with the
> company -
>>>>>>> Brassworks - they have been at it since the early 1900's. Ken
> and Lela
>>>>>>> MacArthur had mentioned Brassworks in July. So - here we go - I
> know
>>>>>>> the discussion will generate a fair amount of opinions - which I
> always
>>>>>>> welcome, since it will generate more questions too. Looking
> forward to
>>>>>>> hearing from all the experts - i know you are out there.
>>>>>>> jack #4348
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>>>>>>> References
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>>>>>>> 1. [1]http://panteraperformance.com/
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> [2][Blue1a.jpg]
> [3]Pantera Performance
> panteraperformance.com
> Pantera Performance Center Inc. 1856 North Park St. Castle Rock,
> Colorado 80109 . 303-660-9897. 303-660-9159 Fax
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>>>>>>> 2. [4]http://hallpantera.com/
>
> [5][CARS_001.jpg]
> [6]Hall Pantera - "Quality Beyond Compare"
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