[DeTomaso] Radiator Dilemma

Thomas Törnblom thomas at hax.se
Thu Jan 26 14:53:13 EST 2017 

Pulled the anode again today, and now it shows wear. I suspect that it had some coating initially that protected it.

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> 15 aug. 2016 kl. 22:46 skrev Thomas Tornblom <thomas at hax.se>:
> 
> I just pulled the anode for checking, and it shows no wear, which I attribute to the use of soft water (I have a softener in my house) and 1/3 propylene glycol.
> 
> I cleaned it with an abrasive scotch brite and inserted it again. I'll check again in a couple of years.
> 
> I have not had to replace the magnesium anode in my boiler either, and it has been in use since 2004. It has an indicator that turns red when it needs to be replaced, and it is still white, which probably indicates that the water is soft.
> 
> Thomas
> 
>> Den 2016-08-10 kl. 09:06, skrev thomas:
>> I have not checked the anode since I installed it. I should perhaps do that. ?
>> I used the radiator without an anode for a few years initially.
>> 
>> Thomas
>> 
>>> 10 aug. 2016 kl. 08:44 skrev Roland <willibillie at live.de>:
>>> 
>>> Interesting about the anode. How often did you have to change it in ten years?
>>> 
>>> Roland
>>> 
>>>> Am 10.08.2016 um 03:14 schrieb Thomas T?rnblom <tipo874 at gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> I installed a magnesium anode instead of the drain cock in my Fluidyne radiator a few years back. I've had this radiator for well over ten years without issues.
>>>> 
>>>> I use propylene antifreeze and soft water.
>>>> 
>>>> Thomas
>>>> 
>>>>> 9 aug. 2016 kl. 23:29 skrev Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Pantera Parts Connection Fluidyne system with shroud and fans runs
>>>>> $1250.00 complete. We have never had one fail since running the No-rossion
>>>>> water treatment additive to insure the Lucas electrical back-feed doesn?t
>>>>> turn the Aluminum radiator into an anode, which is the main reason for
>>>>> aluminum radiators to fail. BTW Soft water works best for filling your
>>>>> system against electrolysis. Larry
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/9/16, 1:28 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken and Lela MacArthur"
>>>>> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of klckmac at msn.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jack,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I received lots of good feedback on radiators recently as you may have
>>>>>> seen. I have an older Hall Brass radiator that was in good shape
>>>>>> overall in our car which I decided to repair for a couple hundred bucks
>>>>>> and add their Mariah fans since mine were stock. Many people like the
>>>>>> Hall one. Many liked aluminum, especially the Ron Davis sold by Pantera
>>>>>> Performance.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dennis Quella @ [1]http://panteraperformance.com/  was recommended for
>>>>>> a high quality, all tig welded aluminum setup from Ron Davis racing. I
>>>>>> was told they do not stock them and they special order them as needed,
>>>>>> takes about 3 weeks to a month. I believe his radiator and fans package
>>>>>> are around $1600.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Doing some research, I came across Brassworks, haven't heard of anyone
>>>>>> but they do reference a Pantera owner on their site. They are kind of
>>>>>> expensive, around $1300. There may be other Brass/copper radiators done
>>>>>> by others, but I haven't seen any.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sooo, timing and money were one factor for us, plus our radiator is
>>>>>> repairable and works well, will work even better once the fans and
>>>>>> correct relays are in. The Hall radiator is around $600 brand new.
>>>>>> [2]http://hallpantera.com/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hope this helps some, good luck.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ken MacArthur
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 72L 4443
>>>>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>>>>>> Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 12:32 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Jack Donahue'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>>>> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator Dilemma
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Jack:
>>>>>> What seems to be the problem with your existing setup, you have had it
>>>>>> 12 years ?
>>>>>> Cheers:
>>>>>> Please use my bill at incendium.com email address in all messages.
>>>>>> Bill Moore
>>>>>> Incendium Supply Ltd.
>>>>>> Suite 416, #305-4625 Varsity Drive N.W.
>>>>>> Calgary, AB T3A 0Z9
>>>>>> 403.202.0055
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: DeTomaso [[3]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Jack Donahue
>>>>>> Sent: August-09-16 1:23 PM
>>>>>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>>>> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Radiator Dilemma
>>>>>> Hey all - I need some good advice on radiators. I currently have a
>>>>>> Fluidyne performance unit without a shroud. I've been told that a
>>>>>> shroud is a necessity, which I understand. I've had it for about 12
>>>>>> years now - no leaks. The rumblings on The List lean towards a unit by
>>>>>> Dennis Quella(?) - don't know the correct spelling or the company, but
>>>>>> the last I had read from someone was just to get his radiator and "be
>>>>>> done with it". I think it was a double-pass (I guess that's good) - and
>>>>>> I assume it's shrouded. Another side of me asks - which is better -
>>>>>> copper or aluminum? And Why? I know the copper units are heavier, but I
>>>>>> am not concerned about extra weight. I am familiar with the company  -
>>>>>> Brassworks - they have been at it since the early 1900's. Ken and Lela
>>>>>> MacArthur had mentioned Brassworks in July. So - here we go - I know
>>>>>> the discussion will generate a fair amount of opinions - which I always
>>>>>> welcome, since it will generate more questions too. Looking forward to
>>>>>> hearing from all the experts - i know you are out there.
>>>>>> jack #4348
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>>>>>> References
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. http://panteraperformance.com/
>>>>>> 2. http://hallpantera.com/
>>>>>> 3. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
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