[DeTomaso] NPC - Troubleshooting OBDII "Lean Bank 2" Code

Jerry Knotts knottsj at galstar.com
Fri Jan 13 15:50:38 EST 2017


Doug,

I am not one to talk because I have a rich issue with my 95 Mustang 
which is a whole different story.

You might see if you could find another ECU to replace yours on a 
temporary basis.

Friend of mine used to crew chief a Ford sponsored race team and went 
through 5 supercharged 4.6 engines.  Three of them were on Fords' dyno.  
Ford traced the problem to shutting off one injector above 7k rpm and 
burning a hole in the piston.  Apparently a bad part or connection in 
the ECM.

I love computer controlled engines when they work correctly.


On 1/13/2017 1:26 PM, Doug wrote:
>     Hi Guys,
>
>
>     I'm asking "the collective" for ideas on where to go from here on a
>     problem with my 1998 Mustang Cobra.
>
>     About a year and a half ago, it started throwing a P0174  "Lean Bank 2"
>     Check Engine code and I've done the following in an attempt to fix it.
>
>     After each mod was made, it took about 180 miles of driving for the
>     code to reappear (since this code means the ECU hitting its max long
>     term enrichment limit).
>
>     The car otherwise drives fine, so once this limit is reached, it's
>     still a very enjoyable drive.
>
>
>     Doug Braun
>
>     Blue 73L #5505
>
>
>     DATE            MILES         REPAIR
>
>
>     Sep2014   87,000   Replaced IAC IAC (Idle Air Control) Valve - Autozone
>     Duralast TV228
>
>
>     Oct2014    88,000   Replaced Mass Airflow Sensor - Autozone/Cardone
>     74-9524
>
>
>     Jul2015    105,000   Replaced Throttle Position Sensor - O'Reilly - BWD
>     EC3025P
>
>
>     Jan2016   111,095   Replaced both Upstream O2 Sensors - RockAuto/NTK
>     22016
>
>
>     Feb2016   111,762   Replaced Intake Air Tract Temperature Sender (IAT
>     Sensor) - SMP
>
>                                   Replaced Coolant Temperature Sender
>     (Sensor) - SMP
>
>                                   Replaced Spark Plug Wires
>
>
>     Mar2016   111930    At this point, I took the car to a professional
>     Garage.  They found a
>
>                                   bank 2 intake manifold leak and replaced
>     the Intake Manifold Gaskets
>
>                                  (manifold to runner + runner to head +
>     upper Intake).
>
>                                  Replaced the Plenum Seal.
>
>                                  Had Dr. Injector
>     [1]http://docinjector.com/ clean & flow match the Fuel Injectors.
>
>
>     Apr2016   112,105   Replaced Fuel Pressure Regulator - Motorcraft
>
>
>     May2016   112,385   I bought one new coil pack and used it to
>     temporarily replace each original coil pack.
>
>                                    With the new pack in each location, the
>     code reappeared.
>
>
>     Dec2016   112,840   Replaced Fuel Pump Assembly - Airtex (sock filters,
>     wiring harness, case, flange & gasket)
>
> References
>
>     1. http://docinjector.com/
>
>
>
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   Doug,
   I am not one to talk because I have a rich issue with my 95 Mustang
   which is a whole different story.
   You might see if you could find another ECU to replace yours on a
   temporary basis.
   Friend of mine used to crew chief a Ford sponsored race team and went
   through 5 supercharged 4.6 engines.  Three of them were on Fords'
   dyno.  Ford traced the problem to shutting off one injector above 7k
   rpm and burning a hole in the piston.  Apparently a bad part or
   connection in the ECM.
   I love computer controlled engines when they work correctly.
   On 1/13/2017 1:26 PM, Doug wrote:

   Hi Guys,


   I'm asking "the collective" for ideas on where to go from here on a
   problem with my 1998 Mustang Cobra.

   About a year and a half ago, it started throwing a P0174  "Lean Bank 2"
   Check Engine code and I've done the following in an attempt to fix it.

   After each mod was made, it took about 180 miles of driving for the
   code to reappear (since this code means the ECU hitting its max long
   term enrichment limit).

   The car otherwise drives fine, so once this limit is reached, it's
   still a very enjoyable drive.


   Doug Braun

   Blue 73L #5505


   DATE            MILES         REPAIR


   Sep2014   87,000   Replaced IAC IAC (Idle Air Control) Valve - Autozone
   Duralast TV228


   Oct2014    88,000   Replaced Mass Airflow Sensor - Autozone/Cardone
   74-9524


   Jul2015    105,000   Replaced Throttle Position Sensor - O'Reilly - BWD
   EC3025P


   Jan2016   111,095   Replaced both Upstream O2 Sensors - RockAuto/NTK
   22016


   Feb2016   111,762   Replaced Intake Air Tract Temperature Sender (IAT
   Sensor) - SMP

                                 Replaced Coolant Temperature Sender
   (Sensor) - SMP

                                 Replaced Spark Plug Wires


   Mar2016   111930    At this point, I took the car to a professional
   Garage.  They found a

                                 bank 2 intake manifold leak and replaced
   the Intake Manifold Gaskets

                                (manifold to runner + runner to head +
   upper Intake).

                                Replaced the Plenum Seal.

                                Had Dr. Injector
   [1][1]http://docinjector.com/ clean & flow match the Fuel Injectors.


   Apr2016   112,105   Replaced Fuel Pressure Regulator - Motorcraft


   May2016   112,385   I bought one new coil pack and used it to
   temporarily replace each original coil pack.

                                  With the new pack in each location, the
   code reappeared.


   Dec2016   112,840   Replaced Fuel Pump Assembly - Airtex (sock filters,
   wiring harness, case, flange & gasket)

References

   1. [2]http://docinjector.com/


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