[DeTomaso] Building a Sleeper

Brent Stewart bjbstewart at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 5 16:53:44 EST 2017 

Jealousy is an ugly emotion... 

    On Thursday, January 5, 2017 1:27 PM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
 

 Scott,

Brent's motor has bling that can be seen from outer space and his intake setup is so tall you almost have to cut a hole in the roof to remove the air cleaner nut! :)

I have a 539 HP, 509 ft/lb 'sleeper' engine thanks to Dan Jones/Dave McLain with a conventional round air cleaner that neatly fits beneath the stock engine screen. There are several parts combos that will take you there without having to resort to any trickery. Intakes, heads and cams are much better now than they were 20 years ago. 

Remember, too, you can't drive a dyno. 540 HP that is accessible whenever you want and is flexible and controllable is infinitely better than 600 hp that comes on like a light switch, and is ill-behaved and cantankerous to live with...

Mike

Mike

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On Jan 5, 2017, at 13:00, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

> Lol, a Pantera sleeper! Ya, no one will suspect you at all! ;-)
> 
> That said, I've got 550+ at the flywheel with a 392. Happy to send specs. 
> 
> Brent 
> 
>> On Jan 5, 2017, at 12:46 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  You can make 500HP with a naturally aspirated 351C engine that looks
>>  fairly stock, now that is the ultimate sleeper. It's just a matter of
>>  selecting the right combination of parts, and you don't even really
>>  need to stroke it, although I have a personal preponderance toward a
>>  393CI stroker.
>> 
>>  Julian
>>    __________________________________________________________________
>> 
>>  From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>>  Scott Mead Photography <scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
>>  Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 12:26:52 PM
>>  To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>  Subject: [DeTomaso] Building a Sleeper
>> 
>>  Aloha All,
>> 
>>  I'm starting to plan an engine rebuild for later this year, with the
>>  hopes
>>  of netting 500HP. I know there are several ways to go (stroking to
>>  408-427,
>>  supercharging and turbocharging) which all have been covered here
>>  before.
>>  However, I don't want a big air cleaner or intake in my rearview
>>  mirror.
>>  Years ago, my father and grandfather had Wilkinson's twin blower setup
>>  on
>>  their Panteras, and I really liked how it fit beneath the L engine
>>  screen
>>  cover - they were the ultimate sleepers. Is it possible to make that
>>  much
>>  power, yet keep everything "stock" outside, but you open the rear
>>  decklid
>>  for the "HOLY S#!^" reaction?
>> 
>>  Mahalos in advance,
>> 
>>  Scott
>> 
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   Jealousy is an ugly emotion...
   On Thursday, January 5, 2017 1:27 PM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
   wrote:
   Scott,
   Brent's motor has bling that can be seen from outer space and his
   intake setup is so tall you almost have to cut a hole in the roof to
   remove the air cleaner nut! :)
   I have a 539 HP, 509 ft/lb 'sleeper' engine thanks to Dan Jones/Dave
   McLain with a conventional round air cleaner that neatly fits beneath
   the stock engine screen. There are several parts combos that will take
   you there without having to resort to any trickery. Intakes, heads and
   cams are much better now than they were 20 years ago.
   Remember, too, you can't drive a dyno. 540 HP that is accessible
   whenever you want and is flexible and controllable is infinitely better
   than 600 hp that comes on like a light switch, and is ill-behaved and
   cantankerous to live with...
   Mike
   Mike
   Sent from my iPhone
   On Jan 5, 2017, at 13:00, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso
   <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   > Lol, a Pantera sleeper! Ya, no one will suspect you at all! ;-)
   >
   > That said, I've got 550+ at the flywheel with a 392. Happy to send
   specs.
   >
   > Brent
   >
   >> On Jan 5, 2017, at 12:46 PM, Julian Kift
   <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
   >>
   >>  You can make 500HP with a naturally aspirated 351C engine that
   looks
   >>  fairly stock, now that is the ultimate sleeper. It's just a matter
   of
   >>  selecting the right combination of parts, and you don't even really
   >>  need to stroke it, although I have a personal preponderance toward
   a
   >>  393CI stroker.
   >>
   >>  Julian
   >>
   __________________________________________________________________
   >>
   >>  From: DeTomaso <[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
   behalf of
   >>  Scott Mead Photography <[4]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
   >>  Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 12:26:52 PM
   >>  To: [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >>  Subject: [DeTomaso] Building a Sleeper
   >>
   >>  Aloha All,
   >>
   >>  I'm starting to plan an engine rebuild for later this year, with
   the
   >>  hopes
   >>  of netting 500HP. I know there are several ways to go (stroking to
   >>  408-427,
   >>  supercharging and turbocharging) which all have been covered here
   >>  before.
   >>  However, I don't want a big air cleaner or intake in my rearview
   >>  mirror.
   >>  Years ago, my father and grandfather had Wilkinson's twin blower
   setup
   >>  on
   >>  their Panteras, and I really liked how it fit beneath the L engine
   >>  screen
   >>  cover - they were the ultimate sleepers. Is it possible to make
   that
   >>  much
   >>  power, yet keep everything "stock" outside, but you open the rear
   >>  decklid
   >>  for the "HOLY S#!^" reaction?
   >>
   >>  Mahalos in advance,
   >>
   >>  Scott
   >>
   >>  ______________________
   >>  Scott Mead Photography
   >>  415 Dairy Road, Ste. E-242
   >>  Kahului, HI 96732
   >>  T: 808-573-6875
   >>  F: 808-573-6876
   >>  e:  <[1]mailto:[6]scott at scottmeadphotography.com>
   >>  [7]scott at scottmeadphotography.com
   >>  w:  <[2][8]http://www.scottmeadphotography.com/>
   >>  [3][9]http://www.scottmeadphotography.com
   >>
   >>  This email is intended for the person to whom it is addressed
   and/or
   >>  otherwise authorized personnel. The information contained herein
   and
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   Photography,
   >>  Inc. If
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   this
   >>  message and any attachments, as well as copying, forwarding,
   printing
   >>  and
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   and
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   assurances
   >>  are
   >>  made in relation to the safety and content of this email and its
   >>  attachments. Scott Mead Photography, Inc. accepts no liability for
   any
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