[DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275

Mike Reilly reillyms at live.com
Tue Feb 28 19:02:28 EST 2017 

What's nice about “bring a trailer” is that people can comment on the car and call out scams like this. With eBay you’re kind of stuck.  I sent a note to the seller to ask what he’s up to given that it’s not their car in the picture.  Just curious to see if I get a response from that.  Mike R.



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From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:57 PM
To: Paul Rimov<mailto:rimovp at icloud.com>
Cc: List DeTomaso Forum<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Richard Greenblum<mailto:Richard at richardgreenblum.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275



The car is real. The auction is a scam. Photos are taking from a BaT auction in 2015. Car was purchased by a Swiss fellow who still owns it and is NOT selling it!

Mike

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On Feb 28, 2017, at 15:02, Paul Rimov <rimovp at icloud.com> wrote:

> I don't believe this is actually a scam. I believe this was actually a custom order by a then Ford Executive.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 28, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Richard Greenblum <Richard at richardgreenblum.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Odd mix of things.  Wipers park on the wrong side for a US 1974.  The
>>  ad claims it's a GTS and has the flares and appears to have the
>>  steering wheel and clock, as well as the center road wheel caps.  But,
>>  it has chrome trim and the wrong badging on the back (US GTS's say
>>  "Pantera" on the left and "GTS" on the right).
>>  Richard
>>  Austin, TX
>>
>>  From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
>>  of The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[2]detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
>>  Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 14:25
>>  To: List DeTomaso Forum <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>  Subject: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
>>
>>     Steve L. spotted this eBay auction
>>     [1][4]http://www.ebay.com/itm/112316750098
>>     and asked me about it.  Auction looks suspicious to us both.
>>     Finding the car in the registry, I contacted the last known owner to
>>     verify,
>>     as he recently bought it in December.  He says the advert is not
>>  his,
>>     and the car is not for sale.
>>     Some people are bidding.   Ebay has been contacted about the scam,
>>  but
>>     have not yet killed the auction.
>>     Hopefully anyone bidding is smart enough to use the registry, and
>>  learn
>>     the truth, and protect themselves.
>>     Hate to have anyone scammed.
>>     So I am posting this, for anyone not yet connected to the registry.
>>     Chuck
>>     The De Tomaso Registry Guy
>>     [2][5]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
>>  References
>>     1. [6]http://www.ebay.com/itm/112316750098
>>     2. [7]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
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>>  4. http://www.ebay.com/itm/112316750098
>>  5. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
>>  6. http://www.ebay.com/itm/112316750098
>>  7. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
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   What's nice about "bring a trailer" is that people can comment on the
   car and call out scams like this. With eBay you're kind of stuck.  I
   sent a note to the seller to ask what he's up to given that it's not
   their car in the picture.  Just curious to see if I get a response from
   that.  Mike R.


   Sent from my Windows 10 phone


   From: [1]Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:57 PM
   To: [2]Paul Rimov
   Cc: [3]List DeTomaso Forum; [4]Richard Greenblum
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275


   The car is real. The auction is a scam. Photos are taking from a BaT
   auction in 2015. Car was purchased by a Swiss fellow who still owns it
   and is NOT selling it!
   Mike
   Sent from my iPhone
   On Feb 28, 2017, at 15:02, Paul Rimov <rimovp at icloud.com> wrote:
   > I don't believe this is actually a scam. I believe this was actually
   a custom order by a then Ford Executive.
   >
   > Sent from my iPhone
   >
   >> On Feb 28, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Richard Greenblum
   <Richard at richardgreenblum.com> wrote:
   >>
   >>  Odd mix of things.  Wipers park on the wrong side for a US 1974.
   The
   >>  ad claims it's a GTS and has the flares and appears to have the
   >>  steering wheel and clock, as well as the center road wheel caps.
   But,
   >>  it has chrome trim and the wrong badging on the back (US GTS's say
   >>  "Pantera" on the left and "GTS" on the right).
   >>  Richard
   >>  Austin, TX
   >>
   >>  From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
   behalf
   >>  of The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[2]detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
   >>  Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 14:25
   >>  To: List DeTomaso Forum <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   >>  Subject: [DeTomaso] Scam eBay auction for Pantera 4275
   >>
   >>     Steve L. spotted this eBay auction
   >>     [1][4]http://www.ebay.com/itm/112316750098
   >>     and asked me about it.  Auction looks suspicious to us both.
   >>     Finding the car in the registry, I contacted the last known
   owner to
   >>     verify,
   >>     as he recently bought it in December.  He says the advert is not
   >>  his,
   >>     and the car is not for sale.
   >>     Some people are bidding.   Ebay has been contacted about the
   scam,
   >>  but
   >>     have not yet killed the auction.
   >>     Hopefully anyone bidding is smart enough to use the registry,
   and
   >>  learn
   >>     the truth, and protect themselves.
   >>     Hate to have anyone scammed.
   >>     So I am posting this, for anyone not yet connected to the
   registry.
   >>     Chuck
   >>     The De Tomaso Registry Guy
   >>     [2][5]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
   >>  References
   >>     1. [6]http://www.ebay.com/itm/112316750098
   >>     2. [7]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
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   >>  4. [8]http://www.ebay.com/itm/112316750098
   >>  5. [9]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
   >>  6. [10]http://www.ebay.com/itm/112316750098
   >>  7. [11]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
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   3. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   4. mailto:Richard at richardgreenblum.com
   5. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   6. mailto:detomasoregistry at gmail.com
   7. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   8. http://www.ebay.com/itm/112316750098
   9. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
  10. http://www.ebay.com/itm/112316750098
  11. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp
  12. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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