[DeTomaso] Cabin heat question

Himes, Terry (397C) terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Thu Feb 23 17:23:22 EST 2017


Hey Jim,

I am originally from Lansing (well Grand Ledge really) and a Spartan.  Got my Spartan lanyard on today in fact.
I escaped the Michigan winters and now live in Sandy Eggo. ;-)   Much warmer.  Not today… but usually.
I saw my first Pantera (yellow) at the Lincoln-Mercury dealer in East Lansing (Saginaw/Grand River), in 1973.
I wanted one!

Good luck getting her back on the road in May.  Some fun Michigan roads to tear up.  I remember taking my friends
GTO up to Houghton Lake and Lake City all the time in High School. Fun crazy times!  Gas was cheaper.  ;-))

Terry



"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
 stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell:     (818) 653-8213
Fax:     (818) 393-3147
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
🇺🇸

From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Jim Kosloskey <jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com<mailto:jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com>>
Date: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:08 PM
To: "MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>" <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>
Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cabin heat question

Thank you Drew and thanks to all for very valuable input.


My restorer clarified that he was concerned about the entire heating system.
Since the restoration did not include replacing all of that he was offering
me the alternative of capping the heater feeds rather than spending the
money.


I appreciate him thinking of my budget as the funds for this restoration are
coming out of some of my retirement money.


Now that I understand what needs to be done (including the valve) I am
seriously considering having this work added.


The car is not finished yet but once done I will provide pictures.


The Pantera will be in Michigan (Oscoda specifically) and driven on nice
days in the Summer.


I joined POCA when I first purchased the Pantera but let the membership
lapse when I parked the vehicle.


The restoration was to upgrade some of the systems to current standards but
attempt to keep as much original as possible.


This will not be a show car. It will be driven. The body was completely
stripped for the restoration. The  Cleveland has been rebuilt with some sane
improvements. The ZF was gone through and restored. The cooling system
completely replaced. Upgraded suspension parts, etc.


It should be back in my hands sometime in May I hope and I am looking
forward to enjoying it once again.


Again - thanks to everyone - it is good to be back.


Jim


From: MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com> [mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:58 PM
To: jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com<mailto:jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cabin heat question



In a message dated 2/22/17 8:51:06 AM, jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com<mailto:jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com>
<mailto:jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com>  writes:





I am the original owner and this has not been on the road for nearly 30
years. It is a 1974 L and I never had any of the typical issues with the
vehicle. I drove it every day in the Summer to work and around town. Just
before I parked it the heater valve became difficult to operate.



Be very careful, because the original levers on an L-model are cheap
plastic, and break easily.

Remove the driver's side kick panel (next to the throttle pedal) and see if
you can actuate the valve by hand.  It should move fairly freely.  If it's
become stiff, it could stand to be replaced.  Disconnect the cable from the
valve to test to ensure that binding isn't confined to the cable, instead of
the valve, before tearing into the heater.

I'm excited to hear about an original Pantera (and original owner) returning
to the road!  Tell us more about your car--where are you located?  Photos
would be great too!

Welcome back!

Mike


-------------- next part --------------
   Hey Jim,
   I am originally from Lansing (well Grand Ledge really) and a Spartan.
   Got my Spartan lanyard on today in fact.
   I escaped the Michigan winters and now live in Sandy Eggo. ;-)   Much
   warmer.  Not today... but usually.
   I saw my first Pantera (yellow) at the Lincoln-Mercury dealer in East
   Lansing (Saginaw/Grand River), in 1973.
   I wanted one!
   Good luck getting her back on the road in May.  Some fun Michigan roads
   to tear up.  I remember taking my friends
   GTO up to Houghton Lake and Lake City all the time in High School. Fun
   crazy times!  Gas was cheaper.  ;-))
   Terry

   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

    stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

   Terry W. Himes

   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   Dawn Spacecraft Team

   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

   Phone: (818) 393-6261

   Cell:     (818) 653-8213

   Fax:     (818) 393-3147

   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

   From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
   of Jim Kosloskey <[3]jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com>
   Date: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:08 PM
   To: "[4]MikeLDrew at aol.com" <[5]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
   Cc: "[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
   <[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cabin heat question

   Thank you Drew and thanks to all for very valuable input.
   My restorer clarified that he was concerned about the entire heating
   system.
   Since the restoration did not include replacing all of that he was
   offering
   me the alternative of capping the heater feeds rather than spending the
   money.
   I appreciate him thinking of my budget as the funds for this
   restoration are
   coming out of some of my retirement money.
   Now that I understand what needs to be done (including the valve) I am
   seriously considering having this work added.
   The car is not finished yet but once done I will provide pictures.
   The Pantera will be in Michigan (Oscoda specifically) and driven on
   nice
   days in the Summer.
   I joined POCA when I first purchased the Pantera but let the membership
   lapse when I parked the vehicle.
   The restoration was to upgrade some of the systems to current standards
   but
   attempt to keep as much original as possible.
   This will not be a show car. It will be driven. The body was completely
   stripped for the restoration. The  Cleveland has been rebuilt with some
   sane
   improvements. The ZF was gone through and restored. The cooling system
   completely replaced. Upgraded suspension parts, etc.
   It should be back in my hands sometime in May I hope and I am looking
   forward to enjoying it once again.
   Again - thanks to everyone - it is good to be back.
   Jim
   From: [8]MikeLDrew at aol.com [[9]mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]
   Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:58 PM
   To: [10]jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com
   Cc: [11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cabin heat question
   In a message dated 2/22/17 8:51:06 AM,
   [12]jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com
   <[13]mailto:jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com>  writes:
   I am the original owner and this has not been on the road for nearly 30
   years. It is a 1974 L and I never had any of the typical issues with
   the
   vehicle. I drove it every day in the Summer to work and around town.
   Just
   before I parked it the heater valve became difficult to operate.

   Be very careful, because the original levers on an L-model are cheap

   plastic, and break easily.
   Remove the driver's side kick panel (next to the throttle pedal) and
   see if
   you can actuate the valve by hand.  It should move fairly freely.  If
   it's
   become stiff, it could stand to be replaced.  Disconnect the cable from
   the
   valve to test to ensure that binding isn't confined to the cable,
   instead of
   the valve, before tearing into the heater.
   I'm excited to hear about an original Pantera (and original owner)
   returning
   to the road!  Tell us more about your car--where are you
   located?  Photos
   would be great too!
   Welcome back!
   Mike

References

   1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   3. mailto:jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com
   4. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
   5. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
   6. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   7. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   8. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
   9. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
  10. mailto:jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com
  11. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  12. mailto:jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com
  13. mailto:jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com


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