[DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC

Stephen steve at snclocks.com
Mon Feb 20 10:34:27 EST 2017


Amen.

 

Stephen Nelson

 

 

From: Konrad Szwab [mailto:kszwab at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 8:52 PM
To: Jim Gray <grayjim at cox.net>
Cc: Jim Wallace <pantera_4220 at yahoo.com>; Stephen <steve at snclocks.com>; audionut at hushmail.com; Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>; David <adin at frontier.net>; DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC

 

There is a difference between immigration and invasion. This is what the media wants the Americans and Europeans to be blind to.

 

The leadership is guilty of treason (I am looking at you Merkel and the ones like you).

 

Thank God we have Trump, may God watch over him.

 

On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Jim Gray <grayjim at cox.net <mailto:grayjim at cox.net> > wrote:

Well said, Jim.  Even if one is of Native American descent  they had to come here from somewhere.
It just seems to me, just my opinion, that the USA was so much better off when we welcomed immigrants, yet restricted the number.  Not just the porous borders where the immigrants have no real intention to go through the legal process of becoming citizens. They just want the benefits.

Off my soapbox now. Back to Pantera wrenching.

Jim Gray

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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC

There is nothing wrong with immigrants, I am the product of an immigrant. But it was legal immigration, not illegal immigration which is the issue and the only issue.  My wife is also an immigrant and became a U.S. citizen again there is nothing wrong with immigration as long as it is legal immigration. Somehow the word "legal" keeps getting lost in the discussion.
Jim



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Thank you.

Stephen Nelson



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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC

The "immigrant flap" is over simple law enforcement action spun by certain manipulative media outlets to look like some kind of vicious hate agenda. It isn't. Mexican people who sneak into the US have been getting a free pass on this for over 100 years, if I'm guessing right, ostensibly because small American businesses benefit from cheap labor that can be paid under the table to avoid the crippling costs of complying with gov't employment regulations. Perhaps now that nearly all small American businesses have been either buried or swallowed up by corporate giants we figure we've got enough cheap labor?
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On February 18, 2017 at 12:53 PM, "Charles Engles"  wrote:Dear David,
             Well, at least you amounted to something in the end....!
                           Your fellow curmudgeon,  Chuck Engles -----Original Message-----
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Subject: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC

The last of my family that came to America was Grandpa Pete.  Somehow got to Liverpool from Sweden and entered Wyoming  from Canada. His foreman took a job at a gold mine in Colorado and wrote to Pete offering him a job.
(skip
the local color) Pete met the young girl that brought the mail to the mine, she coming up with the only female jack-packer. One day a fellow from the phone company asked Pete if you could really  ski, "Ya, sure!" Pete worked for the phone company for almost 50 years.
The point of the story here is that WE are all immigrants. Unless you can document residence from before the Bering Land bridge, you came here to live! The question should not be whether or not you are an immigrant, but will you be a good citizen? Work, contribute, vote. Sadly, Grandpa Pete decided if he was going to live here, he would learn the language and be a good citizen. So, no Swede talkin' here beyond pogen . .  . . and I was raised to be a good citizen.  Viet Nam x2? Worked most of my life and turned out to be a grouchy old man.
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   Amen.


   Stephen Nelson



   From: Konrad Szwab [mailto:kszwab at gmail.com]
   Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 8:52 PM
   To: Jim Gray <grayjim at cox.net>
   Cc: Jim Wallace <pantera_4220 at yahoo.com>; Stephen <steve at snclocks.com>;
   audionut at hushmail.com; Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>; David
   <adin at frontier.net>; DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC


   There is a difference between immigration and invasion. This is what
   the media wants the Americans and Europeans to be blind to.


   The leadership is guilty of treason (I am looking at you Merkel and the
   ones like you).


   Thank God we have Trump, may God watch over him.


   On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Jim Gray <[1]grayjim at cox.net> wrote:

     Well said, Jim.  Even if one is of Native American descent  they had
     to come here from somewhere.
     It just seems to me, just my opinion, that the USA was so much
     better off when we welcomed immigrants, yet restricted the number.
     Not just the porous borders where the immigrants have no real
     intention to go through the legal process of becoming citizens. They
     just want the benefits.
     Off my soapbox now. Back to Pantera wrenching.
     Jim Gray
     -----Original Message----- From: Jim Wallace via DeTomaso
     Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 5:35 PM
     To: Stephen ; [2]audionut at hushmail.com ; 'Charles Engles' ; 'David'
     ; [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
     There is nothing wrong with immigrants, I am the product of an
     immigrant. But it was legal immigration, not illegal immigration
     which is the issue and the only issue.  My wife is also an immigrant
     and became a U.S. citizen again there is nothing wrong with
     immigration as long as it is legal immigration. Somehow the word
     "legal" keeps getting lost in the discussion.
     Jim
          From: Stephen <[4]steve at snclocks.com>
     To: [5]audionut at hushmail.com; 'Charles Engles' <[6]cengles at cox.net>;
     'David' <[7]adin at frontier.net>; [8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 4:23 PM
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
     Thank you.
     Stephen Nelson
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     To: Charles Engles <[11]cengles at cox.net>; 'David'
     <[12]adin at frontier.net>; [13]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
     The "immigrant flap" is over simple law enforcement action spun by
     certain manipulative media outlets to look like some kind of vicious
     hate agenda. It isn't. Mexican people who sneak into the US have
     been getting a free pass on this for over 100 years, if I'm guessing
     right, ostensibly because small American businesses benefit from
     cheap labor that can be paid under the table to avoid the crippling
     costs of complying with gov't employment regulations. Perhaps now
     that nearly all small American businesses have been either buried or
     swallowed up by corporate giants we figure we've got enough cheap
     labor?
     Sent using Hushmail
     On February 18, 2017 at 12:53 PM, "Charles Engles"  wrote:Dear
     David,
                  Well, at least you amounted to something in the
     end....!
                                Your fellow curmudgeon,  Chuck Engles
     -----Original Message-----
     From: DeTomaso [mailto:[14]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
     On Behalf Of David
     Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 1:20 PM
     To: [15]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
     The last of my family that came to America was Grandpa Pete.
     Somehow got to Liverpool from Sweden and entered Wyoming  from
     Canada. His foreman took a job at a gold mine in Colorado and wrote
     to Pete offering him a job.
     (skip
     the local color) Pete met the young girl that brought the mail to
     the mine, she coming up with the only female jack-packer. One day a
     fellow from the phone company asked Pete if you could really  ski,
     "Ya, sure!" Pete worked for the phone company for almost 50 years.
     The point of the story here is that WE are all immigrants. Unless
     you can document residence from before the Bering Land bridge, you
     came here to live! The question should not be whether or not you are
     an immigrant, but will you be a good citizen? Work, contribute,
     vote. Sadly, Grandpa Pete decided if he was going to live here, he
     would learn the language and be a good citizen. So, no Swede talkin'
     here beyond pogen . .  . . and I was raised to be a good citizen.
     Viet Nam x2? Worked most of my life and turned out to be a grouchy
     old man.
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