[DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
marshallgsmith
marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net
Mon Feb 20 01:17:39 EST 2017
One huge difference with today's immigration compared to yesteryear's....
Some of these immigrants want to mame and kill many of us solely because of our mere existence. That certainly brings a cause to handling immigration differently today.....unless you don't care about being safe in your own homeland.
M
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-------- Original message --------
From: Konrad Szwab <kszwab at gmail.com>
Date: 2/19/17 8:51 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Jim Gray <grayjim at cox.net>
Cc: David <adin at frontier.net>, Jim Wallace <pantera_4220 at yahoo.com>, "DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
There is a difference between immigration and invasion. This is what the
media wants the Americans and Europeans to be blind to.
The leadership is guilty of treason (I am looking at you Merkel and the
ones like you).
Thank God we have Trump, may God watch over him.
On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Jim Gray <grayjim at cox.net> wrote:
> Well said, Jim. Even if one is of Native American descent they had to
> come here from somewhere.
> It just seems to me, just my opinion, that the USA was so much better off
> when we welcomed immigrants, yet restricted the number. Not just the
> porous borders where the immigrants have no real intention to go through
> the legal process of becoming citizens. They just want the benefits.
>
> Off my soapbox now. Back to Pantera wrenching.
>
> Jim Gray
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Wallace via DeTomaso
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 5:35 PM
> To: Stephen ; audionut at hushmail.com ; 'Charles Engles' ; 'David' ;
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
>
> There is nothing wrong with immigrants, I am the product of an immigrant.
> But it was legal immigration, not illegal immigration which is the issue
> and the only issue. My wife is also an immigrant and became a U.S. citizen
> again there is nothing wrong with immigration as long as it is legal
> immigration. Somehow the word "legal" keeps getting lost in the discussion.
> Jim
>
>
>
> From: Stephen <steve at snclocks.com>
> To: audionut at hushmail.com; 'Charles Engles' <cengles at cox.net>; 'David' <
> adin at frontier.net>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 4:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
>
> Thank you.
>
> Stephen Nelson
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf Of audionut at hushmail.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 1:14 PM
> To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>; 'David' <adin at frontier.net>;
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
>
> The "immigrant flap" is over simple law enforcement action spun by certain
> manipulative media outlets to look like some kind of vicious hate agenda.
> It isn't. Mexican people who sneak into the US have been getting a free
> pass on this for over 100 years, if I'm guessing right, ostensibly because
> small American businesses benefit from cheap labor that can be paid under
> the table to avoid the crippling costs of complying with gov't employment
> regulations. Perhaps now that nearly all small American businesses have
> been either buried or swallowed up by corporate giants we figure we've got
> enough cheap labor?
> Sent using Hushmail
> On February 18, 2017 at 12:53 PM, "Charles Engles" wrote:Dear David,
> Well, at least you amounted to something in the end....!
> Your fellow curmudgeon, Chuck Engles
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf Of David
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 1:20 PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
>
> The last of my family that came to America was Grandpa Pete. Somehow got
> to Liverpool from Sweden and entered Wyoming from Canada. His foreman took
> a job at a gold mine in Colorado and wrote to Pete offering him a job.
> (skip
> the local color) Pete met the young girl that brought the mail to the
> mine, she coming up with the only female jack-packer. One day a fellow from
> the phone company asked Pete if you could really ski, "Ya, sure!" Pete
> worked for the phone company for almost 50 years.
> The point of the story here is that WE are all immigrants. Unless you can
> document residence from before the Bering Land bridge, you came here to
> live! The question should not be whether or not you are an immigrant, but
> will you be a good citizen? Work, contribute, vote. Sadly, Grandpa Pete
> decided if he was going to live here, he would learn the language and be a
> good citizen. So, no Swede talkin' here beyond pogen . . . . and I was
> raised to be a good citizen. Viet Nam x2? Worked most of my life and
> turned out to be a grouchy old man.
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There is a difference between immigration and invasion. This is what
the media wants the Americans and Europeans to be blind to.
The leadership is guilty of treason (I am looking at you Merkel and the
ones like you).
Thank God we have Trump, may God watch over him.
On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Jim Gray <[1]grayjim at cox.net> wrote:
Well said, Jim.A Even if one is of Native American descentA they
had to come here from somewhere.
It just seems to me, just my opinion, that the USA was so much
better off when we welcomed immigrants, yet restricted the number.A
Not just the porous borders where the immigrants have no real
intention to go through the legal process of becoming citizens. They
just want the benefits.
Off my soapbox now. Back to Pantera wrenching.
Jim Gray
-----Original Message----- From: Jim Wallace via DeTomaso
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 5:35 PM
To: Stephen ; [2]audionut at hushmail.com ; 'Charles Engles' ; 'David'
; [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
There is nothing wrong with immigrants, I am the product of an
immigrant. But it was legal immigration, not illegal immigration
which is the issue and the only issue.A My wife is also an
immigrant and became a U.S. citizen again there is nothing wrong
with immigration as long as it is legal immigration. Somehow the
word "legal" keeps getting lost in the discussion.
Jim
A A A From: Stephen <[4]steve at snclocks.com>
To: [5]audionut at hushmail.com; 'Charles Engles' <[6]cengles at cox.net>;
'David' <[7]adin at frontier.net>; [8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
Thank you.
Stephen Nelson
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:[9]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On Behalf Of [10]audionut at hushmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 1:14 PM
To: Charles Engles <[11]cengles at cox.net>; 'David'
<[12]adin at frontier.net>; [13]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
The "immigrant flap" is over simple law enforcement action spun by
certain manipulative media outlets to look like some kind of vicious
hate agenda. It isn't. Mexican people who sneak into the US have
been getting a free pass on this for over 100 years, if I'm guessing
right, ostensibly because small American businesses benefit from
cheap labor that can be paid under the table to avoid the crippling
costs of complying with gov't employment regulations. Perhaps now
that nearly all small American businesses have been either buried or
swallowed up by corporate giants we figure we've got enough cheap
labor?
Sent using Hushmail
On February 18, 2017 at 12:53 PM, "Charles Engles"A wrote:Dear
David,
A A A A A A A Well, at least you amounted to something in the
end....!
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Your fellow curmudgeon,A
Chuck Engles -----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:[14]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 1:20 PM
To: [15]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
The last of my family that came to America was Grandpa Pete.A
Somehow got to Liverpool from Sweden and entered WyomingA from
Canada. His foreman took a job at a gold mine in Colorado and wrote
to Pete offering him a job.
(skip
the local color) Pete met the young girl that brought the mail to
the mine, she coming up with the only female jack-packer. One day a
fellow from the phone company asked Pete if you could reallyA ski,
"Ya, sure!" Pete worked for the phone company for almost 50 years.
The point of the story here is that WE are all immigrants. Unless
you can document residence from before the Bering Land bridge, you
came here to live! The question should not be whether or not you are
an immigrant, but will you be a good citizen? Work, contribute,
vote. Sadly, Grandpa Pete decided if he was going to live here, he
would learn the language and be a good citizen. So, no Swede talkin'
here beyond pogen . .A . . and I was raised to be a good citizen.A
Viet Nam x2? Worked most of my life and turned out to be a grouchy
old man.
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One huge difference with today's immigration compared to
yesteryear's....
Some of these immigrants want to mame and kill many of us solely
because of our mere existence.
That certainly brings a cause to handling immigration differently
today.....unless you don't care about being safe in your own homeland.
M
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------
From: Konrad Szwab <kszwab at gmail.com>
Date: 2/19/17 8:51 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Jim Gray <grayjim at cox.net>
Cc: David <adin at frontier.net>, Jim Wallace <pantera_4220 at yahoo.com>,
"DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
There is a difference between immigration and invasion. This is what
the
media wants the Americans and Europeans to be blind to.
The leadership is guilty of treason (I am looking at you Merkel and the
ones like you).
Thank God we have Trump, may God watch over him.
On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Jim Gray <grayjim at cox.net> wrote:
> Well said, Jim. Even if one is of Native American descent they had
to
> come here from somewhere.
> It just seems to me, just my opinion, that the USA was so much better
off
> when we welcomed immigrants, yet restricted the number. Not just the
> porous borders where the immigrants have no real intention to go
through
> the legal process of becoming citizens. They just want the benefits.
>
> Off my soapbox now. Back to Pantera wrenching.
>
> Jim Gray
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Wallace via DeTomaso
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 5:35 PM
> To: Stephen ; audionut at hushmail.com ; 'Charles Engles' ; 'David' ;
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
>
> There is nothing wrong with immigrants, I am the product of an
immigrant.
> But it was legal immigration, not illegal immigration which is the
issue
> and the only issue. My wife is also an immigrant and became a U.S.
citizen
> again there is nothing wrong with immigration as long as it is legal
> immigration. Somehow the word "legal" keeps getting lost in the
discussion.
> Jim
>
>
>
> From: Stephen <steve at snclocks.com>
> To: audionut at hushmail.com; 'Charles Engles' <cengles at cox.net>;
'David' <
> adin at frontier.net>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 4:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
>
> Thank you.
>
> Stephen Nelson
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf Of audionut at hushmail.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 1:14 PM
> To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>; 'David' <adin at frontier.net>;
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
>
> The "immigrant flap" is over simple law enforcement action spun by
certain
> manipulative media outlets to look like some kind of vicious hate
agenda.
> It isn't. Mexican people who sneak into the US have been getting a
free
> pass on this for over 100 years, if I'm guessing right, ostensibly
because
> small American businesses benefit from cheap labor that can be paid
under
> the table to avoid the crippling costs of complying with gov't
employment
> regulations. Perhaps now that nearly all small American businesses
have
> been either buried or swallowed up by corporate giants we figure
we've got
> enough cheap labor?
> Sent using Hushmail
> On February 18, 2017 at 12:53 PM, "Charles Engles" wrote:Dear David,
> Well, at least you amounted to something in the end....!
> Your fellow curmudgeon, Chuck Engles
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf Of David
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 1:20 PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
>
> The last of my family that came to America was Grandpa Pete. Somehow
got
> to Liverpool from Sweden and entered Wyoming from Canada. His
foreman took
> a job at a gold mine in Colorado and wrote to Pete offering him a
job.
> (skip
> the local color) Pete met the young girl that brought the mail to the
> mine, she coming up with the only female jack-packer. One day a
fellow from
> the phone company asked Pete if you could really ski, "Ya, sure!"
Pete
> worked for the phone company for almost 50 years.
> The point of the story here is that WE are all immigrants. Unless you
can
> document residence from before the Bering Land bridge, you came here
to
> live! The question should not be whether or not you are an immigrant,
but
> will you be a good citizen? Work, contribute, vote. Sadly, Grandpa
Pete
> decided if he was going to live here, he would learn the language and
be a
> good citizen. So, no Swede talkin' here beyond pogen . . . . and I
was
> raised to be a good citizen. Viet Nam x2? Worked most of my life and
> turned out to be a grouchy old man.
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There is a difference between immigration and invasion. This is what
the media wants the Americans and Europeans to be blind to.
The leadership is guilty of treason (I am looking at you Merkel and
the
ones like you).
Thank God we have Trump, may God watch over him.
On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Jim Gray <[1]grayjim at cox.net>
wrote:
Well said, Jim.A Even if one is of Native American descentA they
had to come here from somewhere.
It just seems to me, just my opinion, that the USA was so much
better off when we welcomed immigrants, yet restricted the
number.A
Not just the porous borders where the immigrants have no real
intention to go through the legal process of becoming citizens.
They
just want the benefits.
Off my soapbox now. Back to Pantera wrenching.
Jim Gray
-----Original Message----- From: Jim Wallace via DeTomaso
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 5:35 PM
To: Stephen ; [2]audionut at hushmail.com ; 'Charles Engles' ;
'David'
; [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
There is nothing wrong with immigrants, I am the product of an
immigrant. But it was legal immigration, not illegal immigration
which is the issue and the only issue.A My wife is also an
immigrant and became a U.S. citizen again there is nothing wrong
with immigration as long as it is legal immigration. Somehow the
word "legal" keeps getting lost in the discussion.
Jim
A A A From: Stephen <[4]steve at snclocks.com>
To: [5]audionut at hushmail.com; 'Charles Engles'
<[6]cengles at cox.net>;
'David' <[7]adin at frontier.net>;
[8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
Thank you.
Stephen Nelson
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso
[mailto:[9]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On Behalf Of [10]audionut at hushmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 1:14 PM
To: Charles Engles <[11]cengles at cox.net>; 'David'
<[12]adin at frontier.net>; [13]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
The "immigrant flap" is over simple law enforcement action spun by
certain manipulative media outlets to look like some kind of
vicious
hate agenda. It isn't. Mexican people who sneak into the US have
been getting a free pass on this for over 100 years, if I'm
guessing
right, ostensibly because small American businesses benefit from
cheap labor that can be paid under the table to avoid the
crippling
costs of complying with gov't employment regulations. Perhaps now
that nearly all small American businesses have been either buried
or
swallowed up by corporate giants we figure we've got enough cheap
labor?
Sent using Hushmail
On February 18, 2017 at 12:53 PM, "Charles Engles"A wrote:Dear
David,
A A A A A A A Well, at least you amounted to something in
the
end....!
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Your fellow curmudgeon,A
Chuck Engles -----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso
[mailto:[14]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 1:20 PM
To: [15]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC
The last of my family that came to America was Grandpa Pete.A
Somehow got to Liverpool from Sweden and entered WyomingA from
Canada. His foreman took a job at a gold mine in Colorado and
wrote
to Pete offering him a job.
(skip
the local color) Pete met the young girl that brought the mail to
the mine, she coming up with the only female jack-packer. One day
a
fellow from the phone company asked Pete if you could reallyA
ski,
"Ya, sure!" Pete worked for the phone company for almost 50 years.
The point of the story here is that WE are all immigrants. Unless
you can document residence from before the Bering Land bridge, you
came here to live! The question should not be whether or not you
are
an immigrant, but will you be a good citizen? Work, contribute,
vote. Sadly, Grandpa Pete decided if he was going to live here, he
would learn the language and be a good citizen. So, no Swede
talkin'
here beyond pogen . .A . . and I was raised to be a good
citizen.A
Viet Nam x2? Worked most of my life and turned out to be a grouchy
old man.
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