[DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC

[Jim Gray]

Well said, Jim.  Even if one is of Native American descent  they had to come 
here from somewhere.
It just seems to me, just my opinion, that the USA was so much better off 
when we welcomed immigrants, yet restricted the number.  Not just the porous 
borders where the immigrants have no real intention to go through the legal 
process of becoming citizens. They just want the benefits.

Off my soapbox now. Back to Pantera wrenching.

Jim Gray

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jim Wallace via DeTomaso
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 5:35 PM
To: Stephen ; audionut at hushmail.com ; 'Charles Engles' ; 'David' ; 
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC

There is nothing wrong with immigrants, I am the product of an immigrant. 
But it was legal immigration, not illegal immigration which is the issue and 
the only issue.  My wife is also an immigrant and became a U.S. citizen 
again there is nothing wrong with immigration as long as it is legal 
immigration. Somehow the word "legal" keeps getting lost in the discussion.
Jim



      From: Stephen <steve at snclocks.com>
To: audionut at hushmail.com; 'Charles Engles' <cengles at cox.net>; 'David' 
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Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC

Thank you.

Stephen Nelson



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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC

The "immigrant flap" is over simple law enforcement action spun by certain 
manipulative media outlets to look like some kind of vicious hate agenda. 
It isn't. Mexican people who sneak into the US have been getting a free pass 
on this for over 100 years, if I'm guessing right, ostensibly because small 
American businesses benefit from cheap labor that can be paid under the 
table to avoid the crippling costs of complying with gov't employment 
regulations. Perhaps now that nearly all small American businesses have been 
either buried or swallowed up by corporate giants we figure we've got enough 
cheap labor?
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On February 18, 2017 at 12:53 PM, "Charles Engles"  wrote:Dear David,
              Well, at least you amounted to something in the end....!
                            Your fellow curmudgeon,  Chuck 
Engles -----Original Message-----
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Of David
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Subject: [DeTomaso] Immigrants - NPC

The last of my family that came to America was Grandpa Pete.  Somehow got to 
Liverpool from Sweden and entered Wyoming  from Canada. His foreman took a 
job at a gold mine in Colorado and wrote to Pete offering him a job.
(skip
the local color) Pete met the young girl that brought the mail to the mine, 
she coming up with the only female jack-packer. One day a fellow from the 
phone company asked Pete if you could really  ski, "Ya, sure!" Pete worked 
for the phone company for almost 50 years.
The point of the story here is that WE are all immigrants. Unless you can 
document residence from before the Bering Land bridge, you came here to 
live! The question should not be whether or not you are an immigrant, but 
will you be a good citizen? Work, contribute, vote. Sadly, Grandpa Pete 
decided if he was going to live here, he would learn the language and be a 
good citizen. So, no Swede talkin' here beyond pogen . .  . . and I was 
raised to be a good citizen.  Viet Nam x2? Worked most of my life and turned 
out to be a grouchy old man.
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