[DeTomaso] Maserati and Pantera tail lights

[Dave McManus]

Julian,
I seem to remember seeing a reproduction where the colors were painted on the inside of the lens. Did not look good.

IndyDave

From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 11:09 AM
To: Dave McManus; goodwinpantera at comcast.net; detomaso
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Maserati and Pantera tail lights


Someone must have invested in a mold as Mr. Fiat is selling reproduction lenses. The euro style with amber signal are a direct interchange for the stock Pantera all red US style.



http://mrfiat.com/de-tomaso-pantera-rear-left-lens.html

http://mrfiat.com/de-tomaso-pantera-right-lens.html

Julian

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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Dave McManus <Dave at damardirect.com<mailto:Dave at damardirect.com>>
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 7:22 AM
To: goodwinpantera at comcast.net<mailto:goodwinpantera at comcast.net>; detomaso
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Maserati and Pantera tail lights

Carello was the manufacturer of the tail light assemblies (bucket, harness and lens). Carello made a large variety of automotive products. Unlike US car manufacturers that made or had made their own designs, Carello sold their products to anyone.

As I was told, several years ago, more than 12 yrs, Carello mistakenly destroyed the molds for the taillights used on the Pantera. I think Maserati used the taillight more than any other manufacturers. My notes tell me the taillight was used on the Alfa Berlina, Lamborghini Espada, Maserati Merak, Bora, Khamsin, Indy, and Ghibli.

About 10-12 years ago I purchased about 60+ pairs of  NOS complete assemblies. I have 1 set, remaining on the shelf. The molds were destroyed. I was told years ago, the molds would cost more than $60,000 dollars for Carello to duplicate. The cost is solely based on supply and demand. The NOS taillight assembly market is choked.

With many cars using the taillights and the original molds destroyed, the cost for NOS taillights will only increase.

IndyDave

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From: goodwinpantera at comcast.net<mailto:goodwinpantera at comcast.net> [mailto:goodwinpantera at comcast.net]
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 7:07 PM
To: detomaso
Subject: [DeTomaso] Maserati and Pantera tail lights

Looks like the Maserati Merak and Detomaso Pantera have the same tail lights. Why they getting so expensive is more of these cars are getting restored.

Cheers, Dave Goodwin
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   Julian,

   I seem to remember seeing a reproduction where the colors were painted
   on the inside of the lens. Did not look good.


   IndyDave


   From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
   Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 11:09 AM
   To: Dave McManus; goodwinpantera at comcast.net; detomaso
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Maserati and Pantera tail lights


   Someone must have invested in a mold as Mr. Fiat is selling
   reproduction lenses. The euro style with amber signal are a direct
   interchange for the stock Pantera all red US style.


   [1]http://mrfiat.com/de-tomaso-pantera-rear-left-lens.html

   [2]http://mrfiat.com/de-tomaso-pantera-right-lens.html
   Julian

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   From: DeTomaso <[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
   of Dave McManus <[4]Dave at damardirect.com>
   Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 7:22 AM
   To: [5]goodwinpantera at comcast.net; detomaso
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Maserati and Pantera tail lights


   Carello was the manufacturer of the tail light assemblies (bucket,
   harness and lens). Carello made a large variety of automotive products.
   Unlike US car manufacturers that made or had made their own designs,
   Carello sold their products to anyone.
   As I was told, several years ago, more than 12 yrs, Carello mistakenly
   destroyed the molds for the taillights used on the Pantera. I think
   Maserati used the taillight more than any other manufacturers. My notes
   tell me the taillight was used on the Alfa Berlina, Lamborghini Espada,
   Maserati Merak, Bora, Khamsin, Indy, and Ghibli.
   About 10-12 years ago I purchased about 60+ pairs of  NOS complete
   assemblies. I have 1 set, remaining on the shelf. The molds were
   destroyed. I was told years ago, the molds would cost more than $60,000
   dollars for Carello to duplicate. The cost is solely based on supply
   and demand. The NOS taillight assembly market is choked.
   With many cars using the taillights and the original molds destroyed,
   the cost for NOS taillights will only increase.
   IndyDave
   -----Original Message-----
   From: [6]goodwinpantera at comcast.net
   [[7]mailto:goodwinpantera at comcast.net]
   Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 7:07 PM
   To: detomaso
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Maserati and Pantera tail lights
   Looks like the Maserati Merak and Detomaso Pantera have the same tail
   lights. Why they getting so expensive is more of these cars are getting
   restored.
   Cheers, Dave Goodwin
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References

   1. http://mrfiat.com/de-tomaso-pantera-rear-left-lens.html
   2. http://mrfiat.com/de-tomaso-pantera-right-lens.html
   3. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   4. mailto:Dave at damardirect.com
   5. mailto:goodwinpantera at comcast.net
   6. mailto:goodwinpantera at comcast.net
   7. mailto:goodwinpantera at comcast.net
   8. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   9. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso