[DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints trimmed 0.1 inches
Julian Kift
julian_kift at hotmail.com
Thu Dec 21 15:44:41 EST 2017
Dave,
No worries, I did make up a jig to set them up on for welding and have the bolts etc.
Julian
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 12:07 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints trimmed 0.1 inches
Next time I feel the irresistible need to tear apart the front end of
6143, I will send you a pair Julian.
I have enough tooling to do it, but having the recipe is better.
Dave
On 21/12/2017 9:06 AM, Julian Kift wrote:
> Depends on your comfort and skill level as it requires separating the
> two halves, straightening one and welding them back together. then you
> need to get longer bolts for the ball joint and fabricate spacers.
>
> I think Pat Mical offers them all done on an exchange basis, I have
> done a few sets and try to pick up any a-arms that come up at
> reasonable price as cores or have an owner send their a-arms.
>
> Julian
>
> [cid:11c91c78-5843-4f4a-8316-bb499438ee86]
> [cid:362cc1a8-a76b-4dde-81c8-1020d57a2db8]
> [cid:b2a640a6-d1d9-42f2-859b-a3894f7259ac]
> [cid:41fd2adb-9e3e-40a8-a0d2-398141cc8a49]
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 6:35 AM
> To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.';
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
> joints trimmed 0.1 inches
>
> How much work is widening the upper A arm? I'd like to go back to
> stock
> suspension bushings, but that would require ditching the offset poly
> bushings I have upfront and loosing that additional angle.
> Mike Thomas
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Julian Kift
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:39 PM
> To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
> joints
> trimmed 0.1 inches
> Well it is pretty critical to stay with 0.1" maximum to avoid
> breakthrough
> into the ball joint as they are all a little different. It should
> provide
> just over 0.5 degree extra caster.
> Personally I modify the a-arms, widening them at the ball joint
> mounting by
> 3/4", which then allows infinite adjustment with spacers up to about
> 7.5
> degrees. The wide body cars like 7 degrees, 5 is good for a narrow
> body.
> Julian
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:34 PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
> joints
> trimmed 0.1 inches
> (Sorry Julian)
> I have not heard that was doable. I casually looked at one and my gut
> feeling was it couldn't be done.
> Good to know!
> How much angle would 0.1" give?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Julian Kift
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 23:16 PM
> To: Ken Green; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball
> joints
> trimmed 0.1 inches
> Larry Stock has a a well equipped shop and has them already milled to
> ship
> out to you, zero setup costs!
> Julian
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> Ken
> Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 7:49 PM
> To: DeTomaso Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints
> trimmed
> 0.1 inches
> My understanding is that 0.1 inches can be trimmed off one side to
> increase
> caster? Seems like most the work would be setting up the milling
> machine?
> Maybe find a shop to get a bunch done, and share the setup cost?
> Ken
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>
>
>
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Dave,
No worries, I did make up a jig to set them up on for welding and have
the bolts etc.
Julian
__________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 12:07 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
joints trimmed 0.1 inches
Next time I feel the irresistible need to tear apart the front end of
6143, I will send you a pair Julian.
I have enough tooling to do it, but having the recipe is better.
Dave
On 21/12/2017 9:06 AM, Julian Kift wrote:
> Depends on your comfort and skill level as it requires separating
the
> two halves, straightening one and welding them back together.
then you
> need to get longer bolts for the ball joint and fabricate
spacers.
>
> I think Pat Mical offers them all done on an exchange basis, I
have
> done a few sets and try to pick up any a-arms that come up at
> reasonable price as cores or have an owner send their a-arms.
>
> Julian
>
> [cid:11c91c78-5843-4f4a-8316-bb499438ee86]
> [cid:362cc1a8-a76b-4dde-81c8-1020d57a2db8]
> [cid:b2a640a6-d1d9-42f2-859b-a3894f7259ac]
> [cid:41fd2adb-9e3e-40a8-a0d2-398141cc8a49]
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 6:35 AM
> To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.';
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top ,
ball
> joints trimmed 0.1 inches
>
> How much work is widening the upper A arm? I'd like to go back
to
> stock
> suspension bushings, but that would require ditching the offset
poly
> bushings I have upfront and loosing that additional angle.
> Mike Thomas
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso
[[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Julian Kift
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:39 PM
> To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top ,
ball
> joints
> trimmed 0.1 inches
> Well it is pretty critical to stay with 0.1" maximum to avoid
> breakthrough
> into the ball joint as they are all a little different. It should
> provide
> just over 0.5 degree extra caster.
> Personally I modify the a-arms, widening them at the ball joint
> mounting by
> 3/4", which then allows infinite adjustment with spacers up to
about
> 7.5
> degrees. The wide body cars like 7 degrees, 5 is good for a
narrow
> body.
> Julian
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of
> Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:34 PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
> joints
> trimmed 0.1 inches
> (Sorry Julian)
> I have not heard that was doable. I casually looked at one and
my gut
> feeling was it couldn't be done.
> Good to know!
> How much angle would 0.1" give?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso
[[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Julian Kift
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 23:16 PM
> To: Ken Green; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball
> joints
> trimmed 0.1 inches
> Larry Stock has a a well equipped shop and has them already
milled to
> ship
> out to you, zero setup costs!
> Julian
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of
> Ken
> Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 7:49 PM
> To: DeTomaso Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball
joints
> trimmed
> 0.1 inches
> My understanding is that 0.1 inches can be trimmed off one side
to
> increase
> caster? Seems like most the work would be setting up the milling
> machine?
> Maybe find a shop to get a bunch done, and share the setup cost?
> Ken
>
> References
>
> 1. [1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> 2. [2]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>
>
>
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