[DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints trimmed 0.1 inches

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Dave:Over Christmas project ??



CheersBill MooreCalgary 403-860-4300
-------- Original message --------From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com> Date: 2017-12-21  1:07 PM  (GMT-07:00) To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints trimmed 0.1 inches 
Next time I feel the irresistible  need to tear apart the front end of 
6143, I will send you a pair Julian.
I have enough tooling to do it, but having the recipe is better.
Dave


On 21/12/2017 9:06 AM, Julian Kift wrote:
>     Depends on your comfort and skill level as it requires separating the
>     two halves, straightening one and welding them back together. then you
>     need to get longer bolts for the ball joint and fabricate spacers.
>
>     I think Pat Mical offers them all done on an exchange basis, I have
>     done a few sets and try to pick up any a-arms that come up at
>     reasonable price as cores or have an owner send their a-arms.
>
>     Julian
>
>     [cid:11c91c78-5843-4f4a-8316-bb499438ee86]
>     [cid:362cc1a8-a76b-4dde-81c8-1020d57a2db8]
>     [cid:b2a640a6-d1d9-42f2-859b-a3894f7259ac]
>     [cid:41fd2adb-9e3e-40a8-a0d2-398141cc8a49]
>       __________________________________________________________________
>
>     From: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>     Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 6:35 AM
>     To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.';
>     detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>     Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
>     joints trimmed 0.1 inches
>
>     How much work is widening the upper A arm?  I'd like to go back to
>     stock
>     suspension bushings, but that would require ditching the offset poly
>     bushings I have upfront and loosing that additional angle.
>     Mike Thomas
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>     Behalf
>     Of Julian Kift
>     Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:39 PM
>     To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
>     detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
>     joints
>     trimmed 0.1 inches
>     Well it is pretty critical to stay with 0.1" maximum to avoid
>     breakthrough
>     into the ball joint as they are all a little different. It should
>     provide
>     just over 0.5 degree extra caster.
>     Personally I modify the a-arms, widening them at the ball joint
>     mounting by
>     3/4", which then allows infinite adjustment with spacers up to about
>     7.5
>     degrees. The wide body cars like 7 degrees, 5 is good for a narrow
>     body.
>     Julian
>     From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>     Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
>     Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:34 PM
>     To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>     Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
>     joints
>     trimmed 0.1 inches
>     (Sorry Julian)
>     I have not heard that was doable.  I casually looked at one and my gut
>     feeling was it couldn't be done.
>     Good to know!
>     How much angle would 0.1" give?
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: DeTomaso [[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>     Behalf
>     Of Julian Kift
>     Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 23:16 PM
>     To: Ken Green; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball
>     joints
>     trimmed 0.1 inches
>     Larry Stock has a a well equipped shop and has them already milled to
>     ship
>     out to you, zero setup costs!
>     Julian
>     ________________________________
>     From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>     Ken
>     Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>     Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 7:49 PM
>     To: DeTomaso Mail List
>     Subject: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints
>     trimmed
>     0.1 inches
>     My understanding is that 0.1 inches can be trimmed off one side to
>     increase
>     caster?  Seems like most the work would be setting up the milling
>     machine?
>     Maybe find a shop to get a bunch done, and share the setup cost?
>     Ken
>
> References
>
>     1. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>     2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>
>
>
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   Next time I feel the irresistible  need to tear apart the front end of
   6143, I will send you a pair Julian.
   I have enough tooling to do it, but having the recipe is better.
   Dave


   On 21/12/2017 9:06 AM, Julian Kift wrote:

   Depends on your comfort and skill level as it requires separating the
   two halves, straightening one and welding them back together. then you
   need to get longer bolts for the ball joint and fabricate spacers.

   I think Pat Mical offers them all done on an exchange basis, I have
   done a few sets and try to pick up any a-arms that come up at
   reasonable price as cores or have an owner send their a-arms.

   Julian

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   [[4]cid:41fd2adb-9e3e-40a8-a0d2-398141cc8a49]
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas [5]<mbefthomas at comcast.net>
   Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 6:35 AM
   To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.';
   [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
   joints trimmed 0.1 inches

   How much work is widening the upper A arm?  I'd like to go back to
   stock
   suspension bushings, but that would require ditching the offset poly
   bushings I have upfront and loosing that additional angle.
   Mike Thomas
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[1][7]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf
   Of Julian Kift
   Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:39 PM
   To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. [8]<byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
   [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
   joints
   trimmed 0.1 inches
   Well it is pretty critical to stay with 0.1" maximum to avoid
   breakthrough
   into the ball joint as they are all a little different. It should
   provide
   just over 0.5 degree extra caster.
   Personally I modify the a-arms, widening them at the ball joint
   mounting by
   3/4", which then allows infinite adjustment with spacers up to about
   7.5
   degrees. The wide body cars like 7 degrees, 5 is good for a narrow
   body.
   Julian
   From: DeTomaso [10]<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. [11]<byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
   Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:34 PM
   To: [12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
   joints
   trimmed 0.1 inches
   (Sorry Julian)
   I have not heard that was doable.  I casually looked at one and my gut
   feeling was it couldn't be done.
   Good to know!
   How much angle would 0.1" give?
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[2][13]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf
   Of Julian Kift
   Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 23:16 PM
   To: Ken Green; [14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball
   joints
   trimmed 0.1 inches
   Larry Stock has a a well equipped shop and has them already milled to
   ship
   out to you, zero setup costs!
   Julian
   ________________________________
   From: DeTomaso [15]<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Ken
   Green via DeTomaso [16]<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 7:49 PM
   To: DeTomaso Mail List
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints
   trimmed
   0.1 inches
   My understanding is that 0.1 inches can be trimmed off one side to
   increase
   caster?  Seems like most the work would be setting up the milling
   machine?
   Maybe find a shop to get a bunch done, and share the setup cost?
   Ken

References

   1. [17]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   2. [18]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com


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   Dave:

   Over Christmas project ??

   Cheers

   Bill Moore

   Calgary

   403-860-4300

   -------- Original message --------
   From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
   Date: 2017-12-21 1:07 PM (GMT-07:00)
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
   joints trimmed 0.1 inches

   Next time I feel the irresistible  need to tear apart the front end of
   6143, I will send you a pair Julian.
   I have enough tooling to do it, but having the recipe is better.
   Dave
   On 21/12/2017 9:06 AM, Julian Kift wrote:
   >     Depends on your comfort and skill level as it requires separating
   the
   >     two halves, straightening one and welding them back together.
   then you
   >     need to get longer bolts for the ball joint and fabricate
   spacers.
   >
   >     I think Pat Mical offers them all done on an exchange basis, I
   have
   >     done a few sets and try to pick up any a-arms that come up at
   >     reasonable price as cores or have an owner send their a-arms.
   >
   >     Julian
   >
   >     [cid:11c91c78-5843-4f4a-8316-bb499438ee86]
   >     [cid:362cc1a8-a76b-4dde-81c8-1020d57a2db8]
   >     [cid:b2a640a6-d1d9-42f2-859b-a3894f7259ac]
   >     [cid:41fd2adb-9e3e-40a8-a0d2-398141cc8a49]
   >
   __________________________________________________________________
   >
   >     From: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
   >     Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 6:35 AM
   >     To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.';
   >     detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >     Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top ,
   ball
   >     joints trimmed 0.1 inches
   >
   >     How much work is widening the upper A arm?  I'd like to go back
   to
   >     stock
   >     suspension bushings, but that would require ditching the offset
   poly
   >     bushings I have upfront and loosing that additional angle.
   >     Mike Thomas
   >     -----Original Message-----
   >     From: DeTomaso
   [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   >     Behalf
   >     Of Julian Kift
   >     Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:39 PM
   >     To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
   >     detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top ,
   ball
   >     joints
   >     trimmed 0.1 inches
   >     Well it is pretty critical to stay with 0.1" maximum to avoid
   >     breakthrough
   >     into the ball joint as they are all a little different. It should
   >     provide
   >     just over 0.5 degree extra caster.
   >     Personally I modify the a-arms, widening them at the ball joint
   >     mounting by
   >     3/4", which then allows infinite adjustment with spacers up to
   about
   >     7.5
   >     degrees. The wide body cars like 7 degrees, 5 is good for a
   narrow
   >     body.
   >     Julian
   >     From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
   behalf of
   >     Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
   >     Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:34 PM
   >     To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >     Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
   >     joints
   >     trimmed 0.1 inches
   >     (Sorry Julian)
   >     I have not heard that was doable.  I casually looked at one and
   my gut
   >     feeling was it couldn't be done.
   >     Good to know!
   >     How much angle would 0.1" give?
   >     -----Original Message-----
   >     From: DeTomaso
   [[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   >     Behalf
   >     Of Julian Kift
   >     Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 23:16 PM
   >     To: Ken Green; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball
   >     joints
   >     trimmed 0.1 inches
   >     Larry Stock has a a well equipped shop and has them already
   milled to
   >     ship
   >     out to you, zero setup costs!
   >     Julian
   >     ________________________________
   >     From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
   behalf of
   >     Ken
   >     Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   >     Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 7:49 PM
   >     To: DeTomaso Mail List
   >     Subject: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball
   joints
   >     trimmed
   >     0.1 inches
   >     My understanding is that 0.1 inches can be trimmed off one side
   to
   >     increase
   >     caster?  Seems like most the work would be setting up the milling
   >     machine?
   >     Maybe find a shop to get a bunch done, and share the setup cost?
   >     Ken
   >
   > References
   >
   >     1. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   >     2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   >
   >
   >
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      Next time I feel the irresistible  need to tear apart the front end
   of
      6143, I will send you a pair Julian.
      I have enough tooling to do it, but having the recipe is better.
      Dave
      On 21/12/2017 9:06 AM, Julian Kift wrote:
      Depends on your comfort and skill level as it requires separating
   the
      two halves, straightening one and welding them back together. then
   you
      need to get longer bolts for the ball joint and fabricate spacers.
      I think Pat Mical offers them all done on an exchange basis, I have
      done a few sets and try to pick up any a-arms that come up at
      reasonable price as cores or have an owner send their a-arms.
      Julian
      [[1]cid:11c91c78-5843-4f4a-8316-bb499438ee86]
      [[2]cid:362cc1a8-a76b-4dde-81c8-1020d57a2db8]
      [[3]cid:b2a640a6-d1d9-42f2-859b-a3894f7259ac]
      [[4]cid:41fd2adb-9e3e-40a8-a0d2-398141cc8a49]
        __________________________________________________________________
      From: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas [5]<mbefthomas at comcast.net>
      Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 6:35 AM
      To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.';
      [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
      Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top ,
   ball
      joints trimmed 0.1 inches
      How much work is widening the upper A arm?  I'd like to go back to
      stock
      suspension bushings, but that would require ditching the offset poly
      bushings I have upfront and loosing that additional angle.
      Mike Thomas
      -----Original Message-----
      From: DeTomaso
   [[1][7]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
      Behalf
      Of Julian Kift
      Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:39 PM
      To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. [8]<byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
      [9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top ,
   ball
      joints
      trimmed 0.1 inches
      Well it is pretty critical to stay with 0.1" maximum to avoid
      breakthrough
      into the ball joint as they are all a little different. It should
      provide
      just over 0.5 degree extra caster.
      Personally I modify the a-arms, widening them at the ball joint
      mounting by
      3/4", which then allows infinite adjustment with spacers up to about
      7.5
      degrees. The wide body cars like 7 degrees, 5 is good for a narrow
      body.
      Julian
      From: DeTomaso [10]<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
   behalf of
      Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. [11]<byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:34 PM
      To: [12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
      Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
      joints
      trimmed 0.1 inches
      (Sorry Julian)
      I have not heard that was doable.  I casually looked at one and my
   gut
      feeling was it couldn't be done.
      Good to know!
      How much angle would 0.1" give?
      -----Original Message-----
      From: DeTomaso
   [[2][13]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
      Behalf
      Of Julian Kift
      Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 23:16 PM
      To: Ken Green; [14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball
      joints
      trimmed 0.1 inches
      Larry Stock has a a well equipped shop and has them already milled
   to
      ship
      out to you, zero setup costs!
      Julian
      ________________________________
      From: DeTomaso [15]<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
   behalf of
      Ken
      Green via DeTomaso [16]<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 7:49 PM
      To: DeTomaso Mail List
      Subject: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints
      trimmed
      0.1 inches
      My understanding is that 0.1 inches can be trimmed off one side to
      increase
      caster?  Seems like most the work would be setting up the milling
      machine?
      Maybe find a shop to get a bunch done, and share the setup cost?
      Ken
   References
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      2. [18]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
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