[DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints trimmed 0.1 inches
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-------- Original message --------From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com> Date: 2017-12-21 1:07 PM (GMT-07:00) To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints trimmed 0.1 inches
Next time I feel the irresistible need to tear apart the front end of
6143, I will send you a pair Julian.
I have enough tooling to do it, but having the recipe is better.
Dave
On 21/12/2017 9:06 AM, Julian Kift wrote:
> Depends on your comfort and skill level as it requires separating the
> two halves, straightening one and welding them back together. then you
> need to get longer bolts for the ball joint and fabricate spacers.
>
> I think Pat Mical offers them all done on an exchange basis, I have
> done a few sets and try to pick up any a-arms that come up at
> reasonable price as cores or have an owner send their a-arms.
>
> Julian
>
> [cid:11c91c78-5843-4f4a-8316-bb499438ee86]
> [cid:362cc1a8-a76b-4dde-81c8-1020d57a2db8]
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>
> From: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 6:35 AM
> To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.';
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
> joints trimmed 0.1 inches
>
> How much work is widening the upper A arm? I'd like to go back to
> stock
> suspension bushings, but that would require ditching the offset poly
> bushings I have upfront and loosing that additional angle.
> Mike Thomas
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Julian Kift
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:39 PM
> To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
> joints
> trimmed 0.1 inches
> Well it is pretty critical to stay with 0.1" maximum to avoid
> breakthrough
> into the ball joint as they are all a little different. It should
> provide
> just over 0.5 degree extra caster.
> Personally I modify the a-arms, widening them at the ball joint
> mounting by
> 3/4", which then allows infinite adjustment with spacers up to about
> 7.5
> degrees. The wide body cars like 7 degrees, 5 is good for a narrow
> body.
> Julian
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:34 PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
> joints
> trimmed 0.1 inches
> (Sorry Julian)
> I have not heard that was doable. I casually looked at one and my gut
> feeling was it couldn't be done.
> Good to know!
> How much angle would 0.1" give?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Julian Kift
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 23:16 PM
> To: Ken Green; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball
> joints
> trimmed 0.1 inches
> Larry Stock has a a well equipped shop and has them already milled to
> ship
> out to you, zero setup costs!
> Julian
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> Ken
> Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 7:49 PM
> To: DeTomaso Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints
> trimmed
> 0.1 inches
> My understanding is that 0.1 inches can be trimmed off one side to
> increase
> caster? Seems like most the work would be setting up the milling
> machine?
> Maybe find a shop to get a bunch done, and share the setup cost?
> Ken
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
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Next time I feel the irresistible need to tear apart the front end of
6143, I will send you a pair Julian.
I have enough tooling to do it, but having the recipe is better.
Dave
On 21/12/2017 9:06 AM, Julian Kift wrote:
Depends on your comfort and skill level as it requires separating the
two halves, straightening one and welding them back together. then you
need to get longer bolts for the ball joint and fabricate spacers.
I think Pat Mical offers them all done on an exchange basis, I have
done a few sets and try to pick up any a-arms that come up at
reasonable price as cores or have an owner send their a-arms.
Julian
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From: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas [5]<mbefthomas at comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 6:35 AM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.';
[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
joints trimmed 0.1 inches
How much work is widening the upper A arm? I'd like to go back to
stock
suspension bushings, but that would require ditching the offset poly
bushings I have upfront and loosing that additional angle.
Mike Thomas
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[1][7]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf
Of Julian Kift
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:39 PM
To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. [8]<byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
[9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
joints
trimmed 0.1 inches
Well it is pretty critical to stay with 0.1" maximum to avoid
breakthrough
into the ball joint as they are all a little different. It should
provide
just over 0.5 degree extra caster.
Personally I modify the a-arms, widening them at the ball joint
mounting by
3/4", which then allows infinite adjustment with spacers up to about
7.5
degrees. The wide body cars like 7 degrees, 5 is good for a narrow
body.
Julian
From: DeTomaso [10]<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. [11]<byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:34 PM
To: [12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
joints
trimmed 0.1 inches
(Sorry Julian)
I have not heard that was doable. I casually looked at one and my gut
feeling was it couldn't be done.
Good to know!
How much angle would 0.1" give?
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[2][13]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf
Of Julian Kift
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 23:16 PM
To: Ken Green; [14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball
joints
trimmed 0.1 inches
Larry Stock has a a well equipped shop and has them already milled to
ship
out to you, zero setup costs!
Julian
________________________________
From: DeTomaso [15]<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Ken
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Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 7:49 PM
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Subject: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints
trimmed
0.1 inches
My understanding is that 0.1 inches can be trimmed off one side to
increase
caster? Seems like most the work would be setting up the milling
machine?
Maybe find a shop to get a bunch done, and share the setup cost?
Ken
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Dave:
Over Christmas project ??
Cheers
Bill Moore
Calgary
403-860-4300
-------- Original message --------
From: Dave Londry <davel at emspace.com>
Date: 2017-12-21 1:07 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
joints trimmed 0.1 inches
Next time I feel the irresistible need to tear apart the front end of
6143, I will send you a pair Julian.
I have enough tooling to do it, but having the recipe is better.
Dave
On 21/12/2017 9:06 AM, Julian Kift wrote:
> Depends on your comfort and skill level as it requires separating
the
> two halves, straightening one and welding them back together.
then you
> need to get longer bolts for the ball joint and fabricate
spacers.
>
> I think Pat Mical offers them all done on an exchange basis, I
have
> done a few sets and try to pick up any a-arms that come up at
> reasonable price as cores or have an owner send their a-arms.
>
> Julian
>
> [cid:11c91c78-5843-4f4a-8316-bb499438ee86]
> [cid:362cc1a8-a76b-4dde-81c8-1020d57a2db8]
> [cid:b2a640a6-d1d9-42f2-859b-a3894f7259ac]
> [cid:41fd2adb-9e3e-40a8-a0d2-398141cc8a49]
>
__________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 6:35 AM
> To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.';
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top ,
ball
> joints trimmed 0.1 inches
>
> How much work is widening the upper A arm? I'd like to go back
to
> stock
> suspension bushings, but that would require ditching the offset
poly
> bushings I have upfront and loosing that additional angle.
> Mike Thomas
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso
[[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Julian Kift
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:39 PM
> To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top ,
ball
> joints
> trimmed 0.1 inches
> Well it is pretty critical to stay with 0.1" maximum to avoid
> breakthrough
> into the ball joint as they are all a little different. It should
> provide
> just over 0.5 degree extra caster.
> Personally I modify the a-arms, widening them at the ball joint
> mounting by
> 3/4", which then allows infinite adjustment with spacers up to
about
> 7.5
> degrees. The wide body cars like 7 degrees, 5 is good for a
narrow
> body.
> Julian
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of
> Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:34 PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
> joints
> trimmed 0.1 inches
> (Sorry Julian)
> I have not heard that was doable. I casually looked at one and
my gut
> feeling was it couldn't be done.
> Good to know!
> How much angle would 0.1" give?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso
[[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Julian Kift
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 23:16 PM
> To: Ken Green; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball
> joints
> trimmed 0.1 inches
> Larry Stock has a a well equipped shop and has them already
milled to
> ship
> out to you, zero setup costs!
> Julian
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of
> Ken
> Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 7:49 PM
> To: DeTomaso Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball
joints
> trimmed
> 0.1 inches
> My understanding is that 0.1 inches can be trimmed off one side
to
> increase
> caster? Seems like most the work would be setting up the milling
> machine?
> Maybe find a shop to get a bunch done, and share the setup cost?
> Ken
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>
>
>
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Next time I feel the irresistible need to tear apart the front end
of
6143, I will send you a pair Julian.
I have enough tooling to do it, but having the recipe is better.
Dave
On 21/12/2017 9:06 AM, Julian Kift wrote:
Depends on your comfort and skill level as it requires separating
the
two halves, straightening one and welding them back together. then
you
need to get longer bolts for the ball joint and fabricate spacers.
I think Pat Mical offers them all done on an exchange basis, I have
done a few sets and try to pick up any a-arms that come up at
reasonable price as cores or have an owner send their a-arms.
Julian
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__________________________________________________________________
From: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas [5]<mbefthomas at comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 6:35 AM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.';
[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top ,
ball
joints trimmed 0.1 inches
How much work is widening the upper A arm? I'd like to go back to
stock
suspension bushings, but that would require ditching the offset poly
bushings I have upfront and loosing that additional angle.
Mike Thomas
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso
[[1][7]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf
Of Julian Kift
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:39 PM
To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. [8]<byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
[9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top ,
ball
joints
trimmed 0.1 inches
Well it is pretty critical to stay with 0.1" maximum to avoid
breakthrough
into the ball joint as they are all a little different. It should
provide
just over 0.5 degree extra caster.
Personally I modify the a-arms, widening them at the ball joint
mounting by
3/4", which then allows infinite adjustment with spacers up to about
7.5
degrees. The wide body cars like 7 degrees, 5 is good for a narrow
body.
Julian
From: DeTomaso [10]<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of
Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. [11]<byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:34 PM
To: [12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
joints
trimmed 0.1 inches
(Sorry Julian)
I have not heard that was doable. I casually looked at one and my
gut
feeling was it couldn't be done.
Good to know!
How much angle would 0.1" give?
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso
[[2][13]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf
Of Julian Kift
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 23:16 PM
To: Ken Green; [14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball
joints
trimmed 0.1 inches
Larry Stock has a a well equipped shop and has them already milled
to
ship
out to you, zero setup costs!
Julian
________________________________
From: DeTomaso [15]<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf of
Ken
Green via DeTomaso [16]<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 7:49 PM
To: DeTomaso Mail List
Subject: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints
trimmed
0.1 inches
My understanding is that 0.1 inches can be trimmed off one side to
increase
caster? Seems like most the work would be setting up the milling
machine?
Maybe find a shop to get a bunch done, and share the setup cost?
Ken
References
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