[DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints trimmed 0.1 inches
Mike & Elizabeth Thomas
mbefthomas at comcast.net
Thu Dec 21 14:57:47 EST 2017
Thanks. I've no tools or experience in this sort of fabrication, so should
I decide I wanted this fix would likely get in touch with Pat.
Mike
From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:06 AM
To: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.'
<byrdjf at embarqmail.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints
trimmed 0.1 inches
Depends on your comfort and skill level as it requires separating the two
halves, straightening one and welding them back together. then you need to
get longer bolts for the ball joint and fabricate spacers.
I think Pat Mical offers them all done on an exchange basis, I have done a
few sets and try to pick up any a-arms that come up at reasonable price as
cores or have an owner send their a-arms.
Julian
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From: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net
<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net> >
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 6:35 AM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints
trimmed 0.1 inches
How much work is widening the upper A arm? I'd like to go back to stock
suspension bushings, but that would require ditching the offset poly
bushings I have upfront and loosing that additional angle.
Mike Thomas
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Julian Kift
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:39 PM
To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com
<mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com> >;
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints
trimmed 0.1 inches
Well it is pretty critical to stay with 0.1" maximum to avoid breakthrough
into the ball joint as they are all a little different. It should provide
just over 0.5 degree extra caster.
Personally I modify the a-arms, widening them at the ball joint mounting by
3/4", which then allows infinite adjustment with spacers up to about 7.5
degrees. The wide body cars like 7 degrees, 5 is good for a narrow body.
Julian
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> > on behalf of
Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com <mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:34 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints
trimmed 0.1 inches
(Sorry Julian)
I have not heard that was doable. I casually looked at one and my gut
feeling was it couldn't be done.
Good to know!
How much angle would 0.1" give?
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Julian Kift
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 23:16 PM
To: Ken Green; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints
trimmed 0.1 inches
Larry Stock has a a well equipped shop and has them already milled to ship
out to you, zero setup costs!
Julian
________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> > on behalf of Ken
Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 7:49 PM
To: DeTomaso Mail List
Subject: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints trimmed
0.1 inches
My understanding is that 0.1 inches can be trimmed off one side to increase
caster? Seems like most the work would be setting up the milling machine?
Maybe find a shop to get a bunch done, and share the setup cost?
Ken
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Thanks. I've no tools or experience in this sort of fabrication, so
should I decide I wanted this fix would likely get in touch with Pat.
Mike
From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:06 AM
To: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>; 'Joseph F. Byrd,
Jr.' <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
joints trimmed 0.1 inches
Depends on your comfort and skill level as it requires separating the
two halves, straightening one and welding them back together. then you
need to get longer bolts for the ball joint and fabricate spacers.
I think Pat Mical offers them all done on an exchange basis, I have
done a few sets and try to pick up any a-arms that come up at
reasonable price as cores or have an owner send their a-arms.
Julian
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From: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas <[1]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 6:35 AM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.';
[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
joints trimmed 0.1 inches
How much work is widening the upper A arm? I'd like to go back to
stock
suspension bushings, but that would require ditching the offset poly
bushings I have upfront and loosing that additional angle.
Mike Thomas
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[3]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf
Of Julian Kift
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:39 PM
To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <[4]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
joints
trimmed 0.1 inches
Well it is pretty critical to stay with 0.1" maximum to avoid
breakthrough
into the ball joint as they are all a little different. It should
provide
just over 0.5 degree extra caster.
Personally I modify the a-arms, widening them at the ball joint
mounting by
3/4", which then allows infinite adjustment with spacers up to about
7.5
degrees. The wide body cars like 7 degrees, 5 is good for a narrow
body.
Julian
From: DeTomaso <[6]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
of
Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <[7]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:34 PM
To: [8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
joints
trimmed 0.1 inches
(Sorry Julian)
I have not heard that was doable. I casually looked at one and my gut
feeling was it couldn't be done.
Good to know!
How much angle would 0.1" give?
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[9]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf
Of Julian Kift
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 23:16 PM
To: Ken Green; [10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball
joints
trimmed 0.1 inches
Larry Stock has a a well equipped shop and has them already milled to
ship
out to you, zero setup costs!
Julian
________________________________
From: DeTomaso <[11]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
of Ken
Green via DeTomaso <[12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 7:49 PM
To: DeTomaso Mail List
Subject: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints
trimmed
0.1 inches
My understanding is that 0.1 inches can be trimmed off one side to
increase
caster? Seems like most the work would be setting up the milling
machine?
Maybe find a shop to get a bunch done, and share the setup cost?
Ken
References
1. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
2. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
3. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
4. mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com
5. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
6. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
7. mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com
8. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
9. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
10. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
11. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
12. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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