[DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints trimmed 0.1 inches

Thu Dec 21 12:06:01 EST 2017

Depends on your comfort and skill level as it requires separating the two halves, straightening one and welding them back together. then you need to get longer bolts for the ball joint and fabricate spacers.

I think Pat Mical offers them all done on an exchange basis, I have done a few sets and try to pick up any a-arms that come up at reasonable price as cores or have an owner send their a-arms.

Julian

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From: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 6:35 AM
To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.'; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints trimmed 0.1 inches

How much work is widening the upper A arm?  I'd like to go back to stock
suspension bushings, but that would require ditching the offset poly
bushings I have upfront and loosing that additional angle.

Mike Thomas

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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Julian Kift
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:39 PM
To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints
trimmed 0.1 inches

Well it is pretty critical to stay with 0.1" maximum to avoid breakthrough
into the ball joint as they are all a little different. It should provide
just over 0.5 degree extra caster.

Personally I modify the a-arms, widening them at the ball joint mounting by
3/4", which then allows infinite adjustment with spacers up to about 7.5
degrees. The wide body cars like 7 degrees, 5 is good for a narrow body.

Julian

From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:34 PM
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints
trimmed 0.1 inches

(Sorry Julian)

I have not heard that was doable.  I casually looked at one and my gut
feeling was it couldn't be done.

Good to know!

How much angle would 0.1" give?

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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Julian Kift
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 23:16 PM
To: Ken Green; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints
trimmed 0.1 inches

Larry Stock has a a well equipped shop and has them already milled to ship
out to you, zero setup costs!

Julian

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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Ken
Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 7:49 PM
To: DeTomaso Mail List
Subject: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints trimmed
0.1 inches

My understanding is that 0.1 inches can be trimmed off one side to increase
caster?  Seems like most the work would be setting up the milling machine?
Maybe find a shop to get a bunch done, and share the setup cost?
Ken

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   Depends on your comfort and skill level as it requires separating the
   two halves, straightening one and welding them back together. then you
   need to get longer bolts for the ball joint and fabricate spacers.

   I think Pat Mical offers them all done on an exchange basis, I have
   done a few sets and try to pick up any a-arms that come up at
   reasonable price as cores or have an owner send their a-arms.

   Julian

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   From: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
   Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 6:35 AM
   To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.';
   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
   joints trimmed 0.1 inches

   How much work is widening the upper A arm?  I'd like to go back to
   stock
   suspension bushings, but that would require ditching the offset poly
   bushings I have upfront and loosing that additional angle.
   Mike Thomas
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf
   Of Julian Kift
   Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:39 PM
   To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>;
   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
   joints
   trimmed 0.1 inches
   Well it is pretty critical to stay with 0.1" maximum to avoid
   breakthrough
   into the ball joint as they are all a little different. It should
   provide
   just over 0.5 degree extra caster.
   Personally I modify the a-arms, widening them at the ball joint
   mounting by
   3/4", which then allows infinite adjustment with spacers up to about
   7.5
   degrees. The wide body cars like 7 degrees, 5 is good for a narrow
   body.
   Julian
   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
   Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:34 PM
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Get a group to have the front, top , ball
   joints
   trimmed 0.1 inches
   (Sorry Julian)
   I have not heard that was doable.  I casually looked at one and my gut
   feeling was it couldn't be done.
   Good to know!
   How much angle would 0.1" give?
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf
   Of Julian Kift
   Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 23:16 PM
   To: Ken Green; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball
   joints
   trimmed 0.1 inches
   Larry Stock has a a well equipped shop and has them already milled to
   ship
   out to you, zero setup costs!
   Julian
   ________________________________
   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Ken
   Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 7:49 PM
   To: DeTomaso Mail List
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Get a group to have the front, top , ball joints
   trimmed
   0.1 inches
   My understanding is that 0.1 inches can be trimmed off one side to
   increase
   caster?  Seems like most the work would be setting up the milling
   machine?
   Maybe find a shop to get a bunch done, and share the setup cost?
   Ken

References

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