[DeTomaso] New Pantera?
L GRAY
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Wed Dec 13 14:27:34 EST 2017
Awwww Terry . . . . You mean none of those tidbits about Larry are true ? ?
I just typed his name into Google and I have a nice picture of a Protozoa titled “ Larry’s birth picture” ! !
😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😎
Okay , now I AM kidding!
Love ya’ Larry ! 👍😎
Leslie A. Gray
On Dec 13, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>> wrote:
Larry, (we love you, but) you’re so old that;
Your high school yearbook picture is panted on a cave wall in France!
Your prom theme was “Fire” !
Your first ride was a chariot!
Your first formal dinner WAS the First Dinner!
<just joking ;->
Terry
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
🇺🇸
On 12/13/17, 9:38 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Larry-Ohio Time Corp" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry at ohiotimecorp.com<mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>> wrote:
Dear Chuck,
This brings up an interesting concept of slow evolutional changes, over
years vs. a redesign of a classic that has not evolved.
The Pantera redesigns are all from the '71 model and not the '73 or GT5
models, interesting.
I think the slow evolution changes are more acceptable then a massive
redesign all at once.
Let's look at people in this concept. The cave man was much shorter and
hairier then modern men (like the guys I went to high school with) and would
not appeal to the modern woman (other than the girls I went to high school
with) today.
Larry (slow is good) - Cleveland
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Of cengles at cox.net<mailto:cengles at cox.net>
Sent: December 13, 2017 11:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Pantera?
Dear Jeff,
I have been thinking about this. I agree with Tom
Tjaarda's comment. I also would note three other notable sports cars:
the Porsche 911, the Corvette and the Mustang. Unlike the Pantera, all
of them have continued through the decades. Their styling has not
remained unchanged, but has evolved. The evolutionary iterations of
each have not always been better and better, i.e. the Mustang II. All
three of them have had very successful designs that incorporated the
fundamental characteristics of their ancestors.
I do like the recent design although it does not the have
perfect proportions of the Tjaarda design. It is mostly correct, in my
opinion, and it is unlikely that we shall see a perfect design for the
second generation Pantera.
Aesthetically yours, Chuck Engles
On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Jeff Detrich wrote:
No radiator openings? Unless the 2 front ones at the outside duct to
the
radiator. Also I'm not really a fan of the rear end - too long and
pointy.
Current design for supercars is to have the rear wheels pushed as far
back
as possible. And the lines are probably too crisp compared to current
cars.
I sort of agree with Tom T, start over and come up with a new classic
design.
Just my 2¢ worth.
Jeff
6559
On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Charles McCall
<charlesmccall at gmail.com<mailto:charlesmccall at gmail.com>>
wrote:
I agree - I like it, and think it is a worthy continuation of the
Pantera
line. Very nice update of the classic lines
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Behalf
Of Julian Kift
Sent: martes, 12 de diciembre de 2017 16:30
To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] New Pantera?
This is the car the Chinese should have built.....
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panther-new-italian-supe
rcar-lambo-base>So many design cues I think Tome would be proud of, I
like a
lot. That said it's still a Lamb(o) in a Cat skin, shame it's not
going to
be a modern Ford V8 power.
Julian
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Awwww Terry . . . . You mean none of those tidbits about Larry are
true ? ?
I just typed his name into Google and I have a nice picture of a
Protozoa titled " Larry's birth picture" ! !
Okay , now I AM kidding!
Love ya' Larry !
Leslie A. Gray
On Dec 13, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)
<[1]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
Larry, (we love you, but) you're so old that;
Your high school yearbook picture is panted on a cave wall in France!
Your prom theme was "Fire" !
Your first ride was a chariot!
Your first formal dinner WAS the First Dinner!
<just joking ;->
Terry
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
[2]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
On 12/13/17, 9:38 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Larry-Ohio Time Corp"
<[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
[4]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
Dear Chuck,
This brings up an interesting concept of slow evolutional changes,
over
years vs. a redesign of a classic that has not evolved.
The Pantera redesigns are all from the '71 model and not the '73 or
GT5
models, interesting.
I think the slow evolution changes are more acceptable then a
massive
redesign all at once.
Let's look at people in this concept. The cave man was much shorter
and
hairier then modern men (like the guys I went to high school with)
and would
not appeal to the modern woman (other than the girls I went to high
school
with) today.
Larry (slow is good) - Cleveland
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[5]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On Behalf
Of [6]cengles at cox.net
Sent: December 13, 2017 11:47 AM
To: [7]jjdetrich at gmail.com
Cc: [8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Pantera?
Dear Jeff,
I have been thinking about this. I agree with Tom
Tjaarda's comment. I also would note three other notable sports
cars:
the Porsche 911, the Corvette and the Mustang. Unlike the Pantera,
all
of them have continued through the decades. Their styling has not
remained unchanged, but has evolved. The evolutionary iterations of
each have not always been better and better, i.e. the Mustang II.
All
three of them have had very successful designs that incorporated the
fundamental characteristics of their ancestors.
I do like the recent design although it does not the
have
perfect proportions of the Tjaarda design. It is mostly correct, in
my
opinion, and it is unlikely that we shall see a perfect design for
the
second generation Pantera.
Aesthetically yours, Chuck Engles
On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Jeff Detrich wrote:
No radiator openings? Unless the 2 front ones at the outside duct to
the
radiator. Also I'm not really a fan of the rear end - too long and
pointy.
Current design for supercars is to have the rear wheels pushed as
far
back
as possible. And the lines are probably too crisp compared to
current
cars.
I sort of agree with Tom T, start over and come up with a new
classic
design.
Just my 2-c- worth.
Jeff
6559
On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Charles McCall
<[9]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
wrote:
I agree - I like it, and think it is a worthy continuation of the
Pantera
line. Very nice update of the classic lines
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[10]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On
Behalf
Of Julian Kift
Sent: martes, 12 de diciembre de 2017 16:30
To: [11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] New Pantera?
This is the car the Chinese should have built.....
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rcar-lambo-base>So many design cues I think Tome would be proud of,
I
like a
lot. That said it's still a Lamb(o) in a Cat skin, shame it's not
going to
be a modern Ford V8 power.
Julian
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