[DeTomaso] New Pantera?

Wed Dec 13 13:26:32 EST 2017

Larry, (we love you, but) you’re so old that;

Your high school yearbook picture is panted on a cave wall in France!
Your prom theme was “Fire” !
Your first ride was a chariot!
Your first formal dinner WAS the First Dinner!

<just joking ;->

Terry

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 stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

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On 12/13/17, 9:38 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Larry-Ohio Time Corp" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of Larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:

    Dear Chuck,

    This brings up an interesting concept of slow evolutional changes, over
    years vs. a redesign of a classic that has not evolved. 

    The Pantera redesigns are all from the '71 model and not the '73 or GT5
    models, interesting.

    I think the slow evolution changes are more acceptable then a massive
    redesign all at once.

    Let's look at people in this concept. The cave man was much shorter and
    hairier then modern men (like the guys I went to high school with) and would
    not appeal to the modern woman (other than the girls I went to high school
    with) today.

    Larry (slow is good) - Cleveland

    -----Original Message-----
    From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
    Of cengles at cox.net
    Sent: December 13, 2017 11:47 AM
    To: jjdetrich at gmail.com
    Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Pantera?

    Dear Jeff,

                I have been thinking about this.   I agree with Tom 
    Tjaarda's comment.   I also would note three other notable sports cars: 
    the Porsche 911, the Corvette and the Mustang.   Unlike the Pantera, all 
    of them have continued through the decades.  Their styling has not 
    remained unchanged, but has evolved.  The evolutionary iterations of 
    each have not always been better and better, i.e. the Mustang II.   All 
    three of them have had very successful designs that incorporated the 
    fundamental characteristics of their ancestors.

                I do like the recent design although it does not the have 
    perfect proportions of the Tjaarda design.  It is mostly correct, in my 
    opinion, and it is unlikely that we shall see a perfect design for the 
    second generation Pantera.

                          Aesthetically yours,  Chuck Engles

    On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Jeff Detrich wrote:

    > No radiator openings? Unless the 2 front ones at the outside duct to 
    > the
    > radiator. Also I'm not really a fan of the rear end - too long and 
    > pointy.
    > Current design for supercars is to have the rear wheels pushed as far 
    > back
    > as possible. And the lines are probably too crisp compared to current 
    > cars.
    > I sort of agree with Tom T, start over and come up with a new classic
    > design.
    >
    > Just my 2¢ worth.
    >
    > Jeff
    > 6559
    >
    > On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Charles McCall 
    > <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> I agree - I like it, and think it is a worthy continuation of the 
    >> Pantera
    >> line. Very nice update of the classic lines
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On 
    >> Behalf
    >> Of Julian Kift
    >> Sent: martes, 12 de diciembre de 2017 16:30
    >> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
    >> Subject: [DeTomaso] New Pantera?
    >>
    >> This is the car the Chinese should have built.....
    >>
    >>
    >> https://www.topgear.com/car-news/supercars/project-
    >> panther-new-italian-super
    >> car-lambo-base
    >>
    >>
    >> <https://www.topgear.com/car-news/supercars/project-
    >> panther-new-italian-supe
    >> rcar-lambo-base>So many design cues I think Tome would be proud of, I
    >> like a
    >> lot. That said it's still a Lamb(o) in a Cat skin, shame it's not 
    >> going to
    >> be a modern Ford V8 power.
    >>
    >>
    >> Julian
    >>
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