[DeTomaso] Record price? (warning: tired, opinionated, ranting reply)

Jeff Detrich jjdetrich at gmail.com
Fri Aug 25 11:36:19 EDT 2017


I suggest you get in touch with the Great Lakes Pantera club.

Jeff
6559

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 10:05 PM, djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <
djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com> wrote:

>    Steve,
>    I see you have a Chicago address. I live near Chicago. My 73 Pantera
>    needs some TLC and some one who knows what their doing. Any
>    suggestions?
>    Thanks,
>    Dave
>    Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
>
>    ------ Original message------
>    From: Steve Lisa
>    Date: Tue, Aug 22, 2017 9:20 PM
>    To: ehpantera;
>    Cc: [1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com;Wing, Bob R (394E);
>    Subject:Re: [DeTomaso] Record price? (warning: tired, opinionated,
>    ranting reply)
> I would love to come - but it seems that, like all race cars (which it is
> primarily), it is only getting done a week or even a few days before the
> events.  And, we have already started the winter tear down -- so the engine
> is out, transaxle is going for rebuilt, etc. etc.  So, our hope is it is
> ready again next spring to race at a bit of a higher level than this year.
> Can I show up with something else, like a 65 Galaxie?
>
> I am hoping that at some point in the next year or so I reach the limit of
> what I can or want to do, and then it will be easier to "maintain" --- as
> the "improving" part is past.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
> Email:[2] SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
> Direct: [3]312-320-5888 <(312)%[4]20320-5888>
>
>
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> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 7:01 PM, ehpantera  wrote:
>
> > Steven,
> > It would be nice to have you come to an SSCC event.
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Steve Lisa
> > Date: 8/22/17 9:32 PM (GMT-05:00)
> > To: "Himes, Terry (397C)"
> > Cc:[14] detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, "Wing, Bob R (394E)" <
> >[15] robert.wing at jpl.nasa.gov>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Record price? (warning: tired, opinionated,
> > ranting reply)
> >
> > I agree completely - I looked for a long time for a car like Asa Jay's
> > (SN5533) --  I wanted a car that was original, but driven, maintained,
> and
> > not something I would feel the urge to "restore" and stick in a garage.
> > And, the poor thing, SN5533 is really getting abused now....Things will
> > break, will need to be repaired, and will break again.  The car is
> showing
> > up to the vintage races in street legal form, with its license plate and
> > insurance current.  We drive it to the gas station for gas between
> > sessions.  Then drive the crap out of in the races.
> >
> > The number 1 response from people:  "Geez, do you really want to do this
> to
> > a Pantera.... its so rare.  How cool.  Don't see many of these on the
> > street, let alone racing door-to-door."  But, few people realize how
> really
> > affordable (in the scope of buying and cost of ownership) a Pantera is.
> > That makes it a lost easier to drive like it was meant to be driven - not
> > parked in the garage.  Plus, I think MOST Pantera owners feel that same
> > way.  Unlike the Ferrari crowd (of which I am also a member), the buyers
> > down the road typically aren't as worried about how much the Pantera has
> > been driven, but rather, want one that is proven to drive well.
> >
> > A good reason for that is this group of truly dedicated owners that are
> > almost rabid about the brand and helping each other.  Again, unlike the
> > scores of Ferrari owners - most of whom don't know anything about how to
> > actually maintain their cars (other than a mileage/maintenance card in
> the
> > glove box).
> >
> > Again - -thanks to this group for making it easier to actually feel good
> > about driving the car hard.  Also - best wishes to those headed to the
> SSC.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
> > Email:[16] SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
> > Direct: [17]312-320-5888 <(312)%[18]20320-5888>
> >
> >
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> > On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) <
> >[28] terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >
> > > Love it!  Well said!   I agree.
> > >
> > > Except for the alet others drive it!a Era| NEVER!!  Only my best friend
> > has
> > > ever
> > > driven my Pantera, and the only one who ever will.
> > >
> > > Terry
> > >
> > >
> > > "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
> > >  stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
> > >
> > > Terry W. Himes
> > > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> > > Dawn Spacecraft Team
> > > Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
> > > Phone: [29](818) 393-6261
> > > Cell:     [30](818) 653-8213
> > >[31] thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> > > d--od-,
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/22/17, 5:04 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of[32] audionut at hushmail.com"
> <
> > >[33] detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
> > >[34] audionut at hushmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >     Jeez.....Somebody got swept up and carried away at car week.
> > >     (Nice ripply front bumper.  The one I mangled a while back looks
> > >     better than that one.) Maybe I'm the only car guy who feels this
> way
> > >     but it seems to me car collector/investors attach great value to
> some
> > >     really silly things: First car off the lineLast car off the
> lineOwned
> > >     by a celebrity who maybe did this or that ridiculous thing to it
> > >     Personal social connections with manufacturer people/employees,
> > >     stories (documented or not), various documentations/photos of same
> or
> > >     similarDesigner/famous people signatures (this can be super cool I
> > >     agree, but worth $$ tens of thousands?)One owner (one guy can screw
> > up
> > >     or neglect a car just as efficiently as several)Low mileage
> > >     (meaningful only when buying modern used cars, otherwise it's
> > hearsay.
> > >      We all know it takes about 10 seconds to disconnect the odo cable
> on
> > >     a Pantera)Useless and inferior original tires, tool bags, jacks,
> > spare
> > >     tires, owner's manuals etc.  (I have all that stuff in boxes in the
> > >     garage only cuz I know this crap adds value)Never driven (somebody
> > >     bought it new and parked it as an investment?  wtf?) Take the Elvis
> > >     Pantera with the bullet hole in the steering wheel, sitting in a
> > >     museum basement or collector barn somewhere--  is this not more sad
> > >     than anything else? "Pathetic, washed-up, pill-popping celebrity
> > >     singer in a petulant fit of rage takes a perfectly good Pantera and
> > >     instantly turns it into a curiosity."  Blammo!  Car is now
> > permanently
> > >     out of commission and only for the silly reason that lots of dumb
> > >     people think the story is really cool.   (sorry Elvis lovers!) True
> > >     love of cars is best expressed by driving them, sharing them with
> the
> > >     world as one is able to and maintaining them in as good condition
> as
> > >     possible.  If you don't do that, it means that what you truly love
> is
> > >     not the car at all.  What you really love is money.  For this kind
> of
> > >     "car guy", collectible cars are just an interesting way to have fun
> > >     buying and selling as some kind of extravagant hobby. This guy who
> > >     paid $200K for this Orange 74--  is he going to get it on the road?
> > >     Is he going to join POCA and drive it to a fun rally?  Or is it
> going
> > >     to sit in a really nice barn somewhere?
> > >     Heck with the money, people.  Get in the car, pick up your buddy
> and
> > >     go for a spirited drive on a winding mountain road.   Catch the
> look
> > >     on his face while he tries to keep from crapping his pants.  This
> is
> > >     priceless. Then later if you're feeling brave enough, let him drive
> > >     it.   THAT is being a car guy.
> > >     ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > --------------------------------------------
> > >     A few weeks ago, an old friend of mine called out of the blue and
> > soon
> > >     showed up with his 12 y/o daughter.  We talked a bit and then he
> said
> > >     he wanted to show her my Pantera.   Well, I knew that what he
> really
> > >     wanted was to check it out himself.  I clicked open the garage door
> > >     and his eyes lit up.  Smiling ear to ear, he opened the car door,
> > slid
> > >     himself into the cockpit and grabbed the wheel without even asking
> > me.
> > >      It was like he couldn't help himself.  The car just sucked him
> right
> > >     in, which is exactly how I feel about the Pantera.  (Just sitting
> > >     there, the car always seems to be saying:  "Hey!  What are you
> > >     standing there for? Get in!  Let's go!") When that kind of thing
> > >     happens-- people showing that kind of enthusiasm, it's just super
> > >     cool.  It makes me feel so lucky to own a Pantera.  I'll be taking
> > him
> > >     for a ride sometime soon and if he's got the guts I'll let him
> drive
> > >     it.   How could I not?
> > >      Sent using Hushmail
> > >     On August 21, 2017 at 12:34 PM, "Tom Cabanski"  wrote:RM Auctions
> > >     (Sotheby's Monterey)
> > >     $203,500
> > >
> > >     [35]http://www.rmsothebys.com/mo17/monterey/lots/1974-de-
> > > tomaso-pantera-l-by-ghia/1703937
> > >
> > >     Tom
> > >
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>    I would love to come - but it seems that, like all race cars (which it
>    is primarily), it is only getting done a week or even a few days before
>    the events.A  And, we have already started the winter tear down -- so
>    the engine is out, transaxle is going for rebuilt, etc. etc.A  So, our
>    hope is it is ready again next spring to race at a bit of a higher
>    level than this year.A  Can I show up with something else, like a 65
>    Galaxie?A
>    I am hoping that at some point in the next year or so I reach the limit
>    of what I can or want to do, and then it will be easier to "maintain"
>    --- as the "improving" part is past.
>    Regards,A
>    Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
>    Email:[38] SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
>    Direct: [1][39]312-320-5888
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>    On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 7:01 PM, ehpantera <[8[46]]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
>    wrote:
>
>    Steven,A
>    It would be nice to have you come to an SSCC event.A
>    MarkA
>    Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>    -------- Original message --------
>    From: Steve Lisa <[9[47]]stevelisa at patentit.com>
>    Date: 8/22/17 9:32 PM (GMT-05:00)
>    To: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[10[48]]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>    Cc: [11[49]]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, "Wing, Bob R (394E)"
>    <[12[50]]robert.wing at jpl.nasa.gov>
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Record price? (warning: tired, opinionated,
>    ranting reply)
>    I agree completely - I looked for a long time for a car like Asa Jay's
>    (SN5533) --A  I wanted a car that was original, but driven, maintained,
>    and
>    not something I would feel the urge to "restore" and stick in a garage.
>    And, the poor thing, SN5533 is really getting abused now....Things will
>    break, will need to be repaired, and will break again.A  The car is
>    showing
>    up to the vintage races in street legal form, with its license plate
>    and
>    insurance current.A  We drive it to the gas station for gas between
>    sessions.A  Then drive the crap out of in the races.
>    The number 1 response from people:A  "Geez, do you really want to do
>    this to
>    a Pantera.... its so rare.A  How cool.A  Don't see many of these on the
>    street, let alone racing door-to-door."A  But, few people realize how
>    really
>    affordable (in the scope of buying and cost of ownership) a Pantera is.
>    That makes it a lost easier to drive like it was meant to be driven -
>    not
>    parked in the garage.A  Plus, I think MOST Pantera owners feel that
>    same
>    way.A  Unlike the Ferrari crowd (of which I am also a member), the
>    buyers
>    down the road typically aren't as worried about how much the Pantera
>    has
>    been driven, but rather, want one that is proven to drive well.
>    A good reason for that is this group of truly dedicated owners that are
>    almost rabid about the brand and helping each other.A  Again, unlike
>    the
>    scores of Ferrari owners - most of whom don't know anything about how
>    to
>    actually maintain their cars (other than a mileage/maintenance card in
>    the
>    glove box).
>    Again - -thanks to this group for making it easier to actually feel
>    good
>    about driving the car hard.A  Also - best wishes to those headed to the
>    SSC.
>    Regards,
>    Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
>    Email:[51] SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
>    Direct: [13][52]312-320-5888
>    <[14][53]http://www.patentit.com>
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>    you.
>    On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) <
>    [20[59]]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>    > Love it!A  Well said!A A  I agree.
>    >
>    > Except for the alet others drive it!a Era| NEVER!!A  Only my best
>    friend has
>    > ever
>    > driven my Pantera, and the only one who ever will.
>    >
>    > Terry
>    >
>    >
>    > "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>    >A  stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>    >
>    > Terry W. Himes
>    > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>    > Dawn Spacecraft Team
>    > Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>    > Phone: [21][60](818) 393-6261
>    > Cell:A A A A  [22][61](818) 653-8213
>    > [23[62]]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>    > d--od-,
>    >
>    >
>    > On 8/22/17, 5:04 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of
>    [24[63]]audionut at hushmail.com" <
>    > [25[64]]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
>    > [26[65]]audionut at hushmail.com> wrote:
>    >
>    >A A A A  Jeez.....Somebody got swept up and carried away at car week.
>    >A A A A  (Nice ripply front bumper.A  The one I mangled a while back
>    looks
>    >A A A A  better than that one.) Maybe I'm the only car guy who feels
>    this way
>    >A A A A  but it seems to me car collector/investors attach great value
>    to some
>    >A A A A  really silly things: First car off the lineLast car off the
>    lineOwned
>    >A A A A  by a celebrity who maybe did this or that ridiculous thing to
>    it
>    >A A A A  Personal social connections with manufacturer
>    people/employees,
>    >A A A A  stories (documented or not), various documentations/photos of
>    same or
>    >A A A A  similarDesigner/famous people signatures (this can be super
>    cool I
>    >A A A A  agree, but worth $$ tens of thousands?)One owner (one guy can
>    screw up
>    >A A A A  or neglect a car just as efficiently as several)Low mileage
>    >A A A A  (meaningful only when buying modern used cars, otherwise it's
>    hearsay.
>    >A A A A A  We all know it takes about 10 seconds to disconnect the odo
>    cable on
>    >A A A A  a Pantera)Useless and inferior original tires, tool bags,
>    jacks, spare
>    >A A A A  tires, owner's manuals etc.A  (I have all that stuff in boxes
>    in the
>    >A A A A  garage only cuz I know this crap adds value)Never driven
>    (somebody
>    >A A A A  bought it new and parked it as an investment?A  wtf?) Take
>    the Elvis
>    >A A A A  Pantera with the bullet hole in the steering wheel, sitting
>    in a
>    >A A A A  museum basement or collector barn somewhere--A  is this not
>    more sad
>    >A A A A  than anything else? "Pathetic, washed-up, pill-popping
>    celebrity
>    >A A A A  singer in a petulant fit of rage takes a perfectly good
>    Pantera and
>    >A A A A  instantly turns it into a curiosity."A  Blammo!A  Car is now
>    permanently
>    >A A A A  out of commission and only for the silly reason that lots of
>    dumb
>    >A A A A  people think the story is really cool.A A  (sorry Elvis
>    lovers!) True
>    >A A A A  love of cars is best expressed by driving them, sharing them
>    with the
>    >A A A A  world as one is able to and maintaining them in as good
>    condition as
>    >A A A A  possible.A  If you don't do that, it means that what you
>    truly love is
>    >A A A A  not the car at all.A  What you really love is money.A  For
>    this kind of
>    >A A A A  "car guy", collectible cars are just an interesting way to
>    have fun
>    >A A A A  buying and selling as some kind of extravagant hobby. This
>    guy who
>    >A A A A  paid $200K for this Orange 74--A  is he going to get it on
>    the road?
>    >A A A A  Is he going to join POCA and drive it to a fun rally?A  Or is
>    it going
>    >A A A A  to sit in a really nice barn somewhere?
>    >A A A A  Heck with the money, people.A  Get in the car, pick up your
>    buddy and
>    >A A A A  go for a spirited drive on a winding mountain road.A A  Catch
>    the look
>    >A A A A  on his face while he tries to keep from crapping his pants.A
>    This is
>    >A A A A  priceless. Then later if you're feeling brave enough, let him
>    drive
>    >A A A A  it.A A  THAT is being a car guy.
>    >A A A A  ------------------------------------------------------------
>    > --------------------------------------------
>    >A A A A  A few weeks ago, an old friend of mine called out of the blue
>    and soon
>    >A A A A  showed up with his 12 y/o daughter.A  We talked a bit and
>    then he said
>    >A A A A  he wanted to show her my Pantera.A A  Well, I knew that what
>    he really
>    >A A A A  wanted was to check it out himself.A  I clicked open the
>    garage door
>    >A A A A  and his eyes lit up.A  Smiling ear to ear, he opened the car
>    door, slid
>    >A A A A  himself into the cockpit and grabbed the wheel without even
>    asking me.
>    >A A A A A  It was like he couldn't help himself.A  The car just sucked
>    him right
>    >A A A A  in, which is exactly how I feel about the Pantera.A  (Just
>    sitting
>    >A A A A  there, the car always seems to be saying:A  "Hey!A  What are
>    you
>    >A A A A  standing there for? Get in!A  Let's go!") When that kind of
>    thing
>    >A A A A  happens-- people showing that kind of enthusiasm, it's just
>    super
>    >A A A A  cool.A  It makes me feel so lucky to own a Pantera.A  I'll be
>    taking him
>    >A A A A  for a ride sometime soon and if he's got the guts I'll let
>    him drive
>    >A A A A  it.A A  How could I not?
>    >A A A A A  Sent using Hushmail
>    >A A A A  On August 21, 2017 at 12:34 PM, "Tom Cabanski"A  wrote:RM
>    Auctions
>    >A A A A  (Sotheby's Monterey)
>    >A A A A  $203,500
>    >
>    >A A A A  [27][66]http://www.rmsothebys.com/mo17/monterey/lots/1974-de-
>    > tomaso-pantera-l-by-ghia/1703937
>    >
>    >A A A A  Tom
>    >
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   I suggest you get in touch with the Great Lakes Pantera club.
   Jeff
   6559

   On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 10:05 PM, [1]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com
   <[2]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com> wrote:

     A  A Steve,
     A  A I see you have a Chicago address. I live near Chicago. My 73
     Pantera
     A  A needs some TLC and some one who knows what their doing. Any
     A  A suggestions?
     A  A Thanks,
     A  A Dave
     A  A Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
     A  A ------ Original message------
     A  A From: Steve Lisa
     A  A Date: Tue, Aug 22, 2017 9:20 PM
     A  A To: ehpantera;
     A  A Cc: [1][3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com;Wing, Bob R (394E);
     A  A Subject:Re: [DeTomaso] Record price? (warning: tired,
     opinionated,
     A  A ranting reply)
     I would love to come - but it seems that, like all race cars (which
     it is
     primarily), it is only getting done a week or even a few days before
     the
     events.A  And, we have already started the winter tear down -- so
     the engine
     is out, transaxle is going for rebuilt, etc. etc.A  So, our hope is
     it is
     ready again next spring to race at a bit of a higher level than this
     year.
     Can I show up with something else, like a 65 Galaxie?
     I am hoping that at some point in the next year or so I reach the
     limit of
     what I can or want to do, and then it will be easier to "maintain"
     --- as
     the "improving" part is past.
     Regards,
     Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
     Email:[2] SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
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     On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 7:01 PM, ehpanteraA  wrote:
     > Steven,
     > It would be nice to have you come to an SSCC event.
     > Mark
     >
     >
     >
     > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
     >
     > -------- Original message --------
     > From: Steve Lisa
     > Date: 8/22/17 9:32 PM (GMT-05:00)
     > To: "Himes, Terry (397C)"
     > Cc:[14] [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, "Wing, Bob R (394E)"
     <
     >[15] [6]robert.wing at jpl.nasa.gov>
     > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Record price? (warning: tired,
     opinionated,
     > ranting reply)
     >
     > I agree completely - I looked for a long time for a car like Asa
     Jay's
     > (SN5533) --A  I wanted a car that was original, but driven,
     maintained, and
     > not something I would feel the urge to "restore" and stick in a
     garage.
     > And, the poor thing, SN5533 is really getting abused now....Things
     will
     > break, will need to be repaired, and will break again.A  The car
     is showing
     > up to the vintage races in street legal form, with its license
     plate and
     > insurance current.A  We drive it to the gas station for gas
     between
     > sessions.A  Then drive the crap out of in the races.
     >
     > The number 1 response from people:A  "Geez, do you really want to
     do this to
     > a Pantera.... its so rare.A  How cool.A  Don't see many of these
     on the
     > street, let alone racing door-to-door."A  But, few people realize
     how really
     > affordable (in the scope of buying and cost of ownership) a
     Pantera is.
     > That makes it a lost easier to drive like it was meant to be
     driven - not
     > parked in the garage.A  Plus, I think MOST Pantera owners feel
     that same
     > way.A  Unlike the Ferrari crowd (of which I am also a member), the
     buyers
     > down the road typically aren't as worried about how much the
     Pantera has
     > been driven, but rather, want one that is proven to drive well.
     >
     > A good reason for that is this group of truly dedicated owners
     that are
     > almost rabid about the brand and helping each other.A  Again,
     unlike the
     > scores of Ferrari owners - most of whom don't know anything about
     how to
     > actually maintain their cars (other than a mileage/maintenance
     card in the
     > glove box).
     >
     > Again - -thanks to this group for making it easier to actually
     feel good
     > about driving the car hard.A  Also - best wishes to those headed
     to the SSC.
     >
     >
     > Regards,
     >
     > Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
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     > On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) <
     >[28] [8]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
     >
     > > Love it!A  Well said!A  A I agree.
     > >
     > > Except for the alet others drive it!a Era| NEVER!!A  Only my
     best friend
     > has
     > > ever
     > > driven my Pantera, and the only one who ever will.
     > >
     > > Terry
     > >
     > >
     > > "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
     > >A  stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
     > >
     > > Terry W. Himes
     > > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
     > > Dawn Spacecraft Team
     > > Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
     > > Phone: [29](818) 393-6261
     > > Cell:A  A  A [30](818) 653-8213
     > >[31] [9]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
     > > d--od-,
     > >
     > >
     > > On 8/22/17, 5:04 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of[32]
     [10]audionut at hushmail.com" <
     > >[33] [11]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
     > >[34] [12]audionut at hushmail.com> wrote:
     > >
     > >A  A  A Jeez.....Somebody got swept up and carried away at car
     week.
     > >A  A  A (Nice ripply front bumper.A  The one I mangled a while
     back looks
     > >A  A  A better than that one.) Maybe I'm the only car guy who
     feels this way
     > >A  A  A but it seems to me car collector/investors attach great
     value to some
     > >A  A  A really silly things: First car off the lineLast car off
     the lineOwned
     > >A  A  A by a celebrity who maybe did this or that ridiculous
     thing to it
     > >A  A  A Personal social connections with manufacturer
     people/employees,
     > >A  A  A stories (documented or not), various
     documentations/photos of same or
     > >A  A  A similarDesigner/famous people signatures (this can be
     super cool I
     > >A  A  A agree, but worth $$ tens of thousands?)One owner (one guy
     can screw
     > up
     > >A  A  A or neglect a car just as efficiently as several)Low
     mileage
     > >A  A  A (meaningful only when buying modern used cars, otherwise
     it's
     > hearsay.
     > >A  A  A  We all know it takes about 10 seconds to disconnect the
     odo cable on
     > >A  A  A a Pantera)Useless and inferior original tires, tool bags,
     jacks,
     > spare
     > >A  A  A tires, owner's manuals etc.A  (I have all that stuff in
     boxes in the
     > >A  A  A garage only cuz I know this crap adds value)Never driven
     (somebody
     > >A  A  A bought it new and parked it as an investment?A  wtf?)
     Take the Elvis
     > >A  A  A Pantera with the bullet hole in the steering wheel,
     sitting in a
     > >A  A  A museum basement or collector barn somewhere--A  is this
     not more sad
     > >A  A  A than anything else? "Pathetic, washed-up, pill-popping
     celebrity
     > >A  A  A singer in a petulant fit of rage takes a perfectly good
     Pantera and
     > >A  A  A instantly turns it into a curiosity."A  Blammo!A  Car is
     now
     > permanently
     > >A  A  A out of commission and only for the silly reason that lots
     of dumb
     > >A  A  A people think the story is really cool.A  A (sorry Elvis
     lovers!) True
     > >A  A  A love of cars is best expressed by driving them, sharing
     them with the
     > >A  A  A world as one is able to and maintaining them in as good
     condition as
     > >A  A  A possible.A  If you don't do that, it means that what you
     truly love is
     > >A  A  A not the car at all.A  What you really love is money.A
     For this kind of
     > >A  A  A "car guy", collectible cars are just an interesting way
     to have fun
     > >A  A  A buying and selling as some kind of extravagant hobby.
     This guy who
     > >A  A  A paid $200K for this Orange 74--A  is he going to get it
     on the road?
     > >A  A  A Is he going to join POCA and drive it to a fun rally?A
     Or is it going
     > >A  A  A to sit in a really nice barn somewhere?
     > >A  A  A Heck with the money, people.A  Get in the car, pick up
     your buddy and
     > >A  A  A go for a spirited drive on a winding mountain road.A
     A Catch the look
     > >A  A  A on his face while he tries to keep from crapping his
     pants.A  This is
     > >A  A  A priceless. Then later if you're feeling brave enough, let
     him drive
     > >A  A  A it.A  A THAT is being a car guy.
     > >A  A  A ------------------------------
     ------------------------------
     > > --------------------------------------------
     > >A  A  A A few weeks ago, an old friend of mine called out of the
     blue and
     > soon
     > >A  A  A showed up with his 12 y/o daughter.A  We talked a bit and
     then he said
     > >A  A  A he wanted to show her my Pantera.A  A Well, I knew that
     what he really
     > >A  A  A wanted was to check it out himself.A  I clicked open the
     garage door
     > >A  A  A and his eyes lit up.A  Smiling ear to ear, he opened the
     car door,
     > slid
     > >A  A  A himself into the cockpit and grabbed the wheel without
     even asking
     > me.
     > >A  A  A  It was like he couldn't help himself.A  The car just
     sucked him right
     > >A  A  A in, which is exactly how I feel about the Pantera.A
     (Just sitting
     > >A  A  A there, the car always seems to be saying:A  "Hey!A  What
     are you
     > >A  A  A standing there for? Get in!A  Let's go!") When that kind
     of thing
     > >A  A  A happens-- people showing that kind of enthusiasm, it's
     just super
     > >A  A  A cool.A  It makes me feel so lucky to own a Pantera.A
     I'll be taking
     > him
     > >A  A  A for a ride sometime soon and if he's got the guts I'll
     let him drive
     > >A  A  A it.A  A How could I not?
     > >A  A  A  Sent using Hushmail
     > >A  A  A On August 21, 2017 at 12:34 PM, "Tom Cabanski"A  wrote:RM
     Auctions
     > >A  A  A (Sotheby's Monterey)
     > >A  A  A $203,500
     > >
     > >A  A  A [35][13]http://www.rmsothebys.com/
     mo17/monterey/lots/1974-de-
     > > tomaso-pantera-l-by-ghia/1703937
     > >
     > >A  A  A Tom
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     A  A I would love to come - but it seems that, like all race cars
     (which it
     A  A is primarily), it is only getting done a week or even a few
     days before
     A  A the events.AA  And, we have already started the winter tear
     down -- so
     A  A the engine is out, transaxle is going for rebuilt, etc. etc.AA
     So, our
     A  A hope is it is ready again next spring to race at a bit of a
     higher
     A  A level than this year.AA  Can I show up with something else,
     like a 65
     A  A Galaxie?A
     A  A I am hoping that at some point in the next year or so I reach
     the limit
     A  A of what I can or want to do, and then it will be easier to
     "maintain"
     A  A --- as the "improving" part is past.
     A  A Regards,A
     A  A Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
     A  A Email:[38] SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
     A  A Direct: [1][39]312-320-5888
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     A  A On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 7:01 PM, ehpantera
     <[8[46]][17]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
     A  A wrote:
     A  A Steven,A
     A  A It would be nice to have you come to an SSCC event.A
     A  A MarkA
     A  A Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
     A  A -------- Original message --------
     A  A From: Steve Lisa <[9[47]][18]stevelisa at patentit.com>
     A  A Date: 8/22/17 9:32 PM (GMT-05:00)

   A  A To: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[10[48]][19]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   A  A Cc: [11[49]][20]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, "Wing, Bob R
   (394E)"
   A  A <[12[50]][21]robert.wing at jpl.nasa.gov>
   A  A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Record price? (warning: tired,
   opinionated,
   A  A ranting reply)
   A  A I agree completely - I looked for a long time for a car like Asa
   Jay's
   A  A (SN5533) --AA  I wanted a car that was original, but driven,
   maintained,
   A  A and
   A  A not something I would feel the urge to "restore" and stick in a
   garage.
   A  A And, the poor thing, SN5533 is really getting abused now....Things
   will
   A  A break, will need to be repaired, and will break again.AA  The car
   is
   A  A showing
   A  A up to the vintage races in street legal form, with its license
   plate
   A  A and
   A  A insurance current.AA  We drive it to the gas station for gas
   between
   A  A sessions.AA  Then drive the crap out of in the races.
   A  A The number 1 response from people:AA  "Geez, do you really want to
   do
   A  A this to
   A  A a Pantera.... its so rare.AA  How cool.AA  Don't see many of these
   on the
   A  A street, let alone racing door-to-door."AA  But, few people realize
   how
   A  A really
   A  A affordable (in the scope of buying and cost of ownership) a
   Pantera is.
   A  A That makes it a lost easier to drive like it was meant to be
   driven -
   A  A not
   A  A parked in the garage.AA  Plus, I think MOST Pantera owners feel
   that
   A  A same
   A  A way.AA  Unlike the Ferrari crowd (of which I am also a member),
   the
   A  A buyers
   A  A down the road typically aren't as worried about how much the
   Pantera
   A  A has
   A  A been driven, but rather, want one that is proven to drive well.
   A  A A good reason for that is this group of truly dedicated owners
   that are
   A  A almost rabid about the brand and helping each other.AA  Again,
   unlike
   A  A the
   A  A scores of Ferrari owners - most of whom don't know anything about
   how
   A  A to
   A  A actually maintain their cars (other than a mileage/maintenance
   card in
   A  A the
   A  A glove box).
   A  A Again - -thanks to this group for making it easier to actually
   feel
   A  A good
   A  A about driving the car hard.AA  Also - best wishes to those headed
   to the
   A  A SSC.
   A  A Regards,
   A  A Steven G. Lisa, Esq.

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     A  A [20[59]][24]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
     A  A > Love it!AA  Well said!A AA  I agree.
     A  A >
     A  A > Except for the alet others drive it!a Era| NEVER!!AA  Only my
     best
     A  A friend has
     A  A > ever
     A  A > driven my Pantera, and the only one who ever will.
     A  A >
     A  A > Terry
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A > "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
     A  A >AA  stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
     A  A >
     A  A > Terry W. Himes
     A  A > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
     A  A > Dawn Spacecraft Team
     A  A > Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
     A  A > Phone: [21][60](818) 393-6261
     A  A > Cell:A A A AA  [22][61](818) 653-8213
     A  A > [23[62]][25]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
     A  A > d--od-,
     A  A >
     A  A >
     A  A > On 8/22/17, 5:04 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of
     A  A [24[63]][26]audionut at hushmail.com" <
     A  A > [25[64]][27]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on
     behalf of

   A  A > [26[65]][28]audionut at hushmail.com> wrote:
   A  A >
   A  A >A A A AA  Jeez.....Somebody got swept up and carried away at car
   week.
   A  A >A A A AA  (Nice ripply front bumper.AA  The one I mangled a while
   back
   A  A looks
   A  A >A A A AA  better than that one.) Maybe I'm the only car guy who
   feels
   A  A this way
   A  A >A A A AA  but it seems to me car collector/investors attach great
   value
   A  A to some
   A  A >A A A AA  really silly things: First car off the lineLast car off
   the
   A  A lineOwned
   A  A >A A A AA  by a celebrity who maybe did this or that ridiculous
   thing to
   A  A it
   A  A >A A A AA  Personal social connections with manufacturer
   A  A people/employees,
   A  A >A A A AA  stories (documented or not), various
   documentations/photos of
   A  A same or
   A  A >A A A AA  similarDesigner/famous people signatures (this can be
   super
   A  A cool I
   A  A >A A A AA  agree, but worth $$ tens of thousands?)One owner (one
   guy can
   A  A screw up
   A  A >A A A AA  or neglect a car just as efficiently as several)Low
   mileage
   A  A >A A A AA  (meaningful only when buying modern used cars,
   otherwise it's
   A  A hearsay.
   A  A >A A A A AA  We all know it takes about 10 seconds to disconnect
   the odo
   A  A cable on
   A  A >A A A AA  a Pantera)Useless and inferior original tires, tool
   bags,
   A  A jacks, spare
   A  A >A A A AA  tires, owner's manuals etc.AA  (I have all that stuff
   in boxes
   A  A in the
   A  A >A A A AA  garage only cuz I know this crap adds value)Never
   driven
   A  A (somebody
   A  A >A A A AA  bought it new and parked it as an investment?AA  wtf?)
   Take
   A  A the Elvis
   A  A >A A A AA  Pantera with the bullet hole in the steering wheel,
   sitting
   A  A in a
   A  A >A A A AA  museum basement or collector barn somewhere--AA  is
   this not
   A  A more sad
   A  A >A A A AA  than anything else? "Pathetic, washed-up, pill-popping
   A  A celebrity
   A  A >A A A AA  singer in a petulant fit of rage takes a perfectly good
   A  A Pantera and
   A  A >A A A AA  instantly turns it into a curiosity."AA  Blammo!AA  Car
   is now
   A  A permanently
   A  A >A A A AA  out of commission and only for the silly reason that
   lots of
   A  A dumb
   A  A >A A A AA  people think the story is really cool.A AA  (sorry
   Elvis
   A  A lovers!) True
   A  A >A A A AA  love of cars is best expressed by driving them, sharing
   them
   A  A with the
   A  A >A A A AA  world as one is able to and maintaining them in as good
   A  A condition as
   A  A >A A A AA  possible.AA  If you don't do that, it means that what
   you
   A  A truly love is
   A  A >A A A AA  not the car at all.AA  What you really love is
   money.AA  For
   A  A this kind of
   A  A >A A A AA  "car guy", collectible cars are just an interesting way
   to
   A  A have fun
   A  A >A A A AA  buying and selling as some kind of extravagant hobby.
   This
   A  A guy who
   A  A >A A A AA  paid $200K for this Orange 74--AA  is he going to get
   it on
   A  A the road?
   A  A >A A A AA  Is he going to join POCA and drive it to a fun
   rally?AA  Or is
   A  A it going
   A  A >A A A AA  to sit in a really nice barn somewhere?
   A  A >A A A AA  Heck with the money, people.AA  Get in the car, pick up
   your
   A  A buddy and
   A  A >A A A AA  go for a spirited drive on a winding mountain road.A
   AA  Catch
   A  A the look
   A  A >A A A AA  on his face while he tries to keep from crapping his
   pants.A
   A  A This is
   A  A >A A A AA  priceless. Then later if you're feeling brave enough,
   let him
   A  A drive
   A  A >A A A AA  it.A AA  THAT is being a car guy.
   A  A >A A A AA  ------------------------------
   ------------------------------
   A  A > --------------------------------------------
   A  A >A A A AA  A few weeks ago, an old friend of mine called out of
   the blue
   A  A and soon
   A  A >A A A AA  showed up with his 12 y/o daughter.AA  We talked a bit
   and
   A  A then he said
   A  A >A A A AA  he wanted to show her my Pantera.A AA  Well, I knew
   that what
   A  A he really
   A  A >A A A AA  wanted was to check it out himself.AA  I clicked open
   the
   A  A garage door
   A  A >A A A AA  and his eyes lit up.AA  Smiling ear to ear, he opened
   the car
   A  A door, slid
   A  A >A A A AA  himself into the cockpit and grabbed the wheel without
   even
   A  A asking me.
   A  A >A A A A AA  It was like he couldn't help himself.AA  The car just
   sucked
   A  A him right
   A  A >A A A AA  in, which is exactly how I feel about the Pantera.AA
   (Just
   A  A sitting
   A  A >A A A AA  there, the car always seems to be saying:AA  "Hey!AA
   What are
   A  A you
   A  A >A A A AA  standing there for? Get in!AA  Let's go!") When that
   kind of
   A  A thing
   A  A >A A A AA  happens-- people showing that kind of enthusiasm, it's
   just
   A  A super
   A  A >A A A AA  cool.AA  It makes me feel so lucky to own a Pantera.AA
   I'll be
   A  A taking him
   A  A >A A A AA  for a ride sometime soon and if he's got the guts I'll
   let
   A  A him drive
   A  A >A A A AA  it.A AA  How could I not?
   A  A >A A A A AA  Sent using Hushmail
   A  A >A A A AA  On August 21, 2017 at 12:34 PM, "Tom Cabanski"AA
   wrote:RM
   A  A Auctions
   A  A >A A A AA  (Sotheby's Monterey)
   A  A >A A A AA  $203,500
   A  A >

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