[DeTomaso] Record price? (warning: tired, opinionated, ranting reply)

Asa Jay Laughton asajay at asajay.com
Wed Aug 23 09:51:33 EDT 2017


   Yes, you can show up in a '65 Galaxy and still be part of Team Pantera
   Racing.  ;)
   Asa
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
Spokane County ARES/RACES Net Manager
******************************
[1]http://w7tsc.org
[2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com

   On 8/22/2017 7:19 PM, Steve Lisa wrote:

   I would love to come - but it seems that, like all race cars (which it
   is primarily), it is only getting done a week or even a few days before
   the events.A  And, we have already started the winter tear down -- so
   the engine is out, transaxle is going for rebuilt, etc. etc.A  So, our
   hope is it is ready again next spring to race at a bit of a higher
   level than this year.A  Can I show up with something else, like a 65
   Galaxie?A
   I am hoping that at some point in the next year or so I reach the limit
   of what I can or want to do, and then it will be easier to "maintain"
   --- as the "improving" part is past.
   Regards,A
   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
   Email: [3]SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
   Direct: [1]312-320-5888
   [2][SGL-Email-Logo.jpg]

   Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A [3]480.535.6656A  |A A F:A [4]480.535.6628A
   |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260

   Chicago OfficeA |A P: [5]312.752.4357A  |A  F: [6]312.896.5633A  |A  A:
   55 E. Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
   [7]www.PatentIt.com
   This email is intended only for the recipient above, and may contain
   confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in
   error, please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank
   you.
   On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 7:01 PM, ehpantera [4]<[8]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
   wrote:

   Steven,A
   It would be nice to have you come to an SSCC event.A
   MarkA
   Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
   -------- Original message --------
   From: Steve Lisa [5]<[9]stevelisa at patentit.com>
   Date: 8/22/17 9:32 PM (GMT-05:00)
   To: "Himes, Terry (397C)" [6]<[10]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   Cc: [[7]11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, "Wing, Bob R (394E)"
   [8]<[12]robert.wing at jpl.nasa.gov>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Record price? (warning: tired, opinionated,
   ranting reply)
   I agree completely - I looked for a long time for a car like Asa Jay's
   (SN5533) --A  I wanted a car that was original, but driven, maintained,
   and
   not something I would feel the urge to "restore" and stick in a garage.
   And, the poor thing, SN5533 is really getting abused now....Things will
   break, will need to be repaired, and will break again.A  The car is
   showing
   up to the vintage races in street legal form, with its license plate
   and
   insurance current.A  We drive it to the gas station for gas between
   sessions.A  Then drive the crap out of in the races.
   The number 1 response from people:A  "Geez, do you really want to do
   this to
   a Pantera.... its so rare.A  How cool.A  Don't see many of these on the
   street, let alone racing door-to-door."A  But, few people realize how
   really
   affordable (in the scope of buying and cost of ownership) a Pantera is.
   That makes it a lost easier to drive like it was meant to be driven -
   not
   parked in the garage.A  Plus, I think MOST Pantera owners feel that
   same
   way.A  Unlike the Ferrari crowd (of which I am also a member), the
   buyers
   down the road typically aren't as worried about how much the Pantera
   has
   been driven, but rather, want one that is proven to drive well.
   A good reason for that is this group of truly dedicated owners that are
   almost rabid about the brand and helping each other.A  Again, unlike
   the
   scores of Ferrari owners - most of whom don't know anything about how
   to
   actually maintain their cars (other than a mileage/maintenance card in
   the
   glove box).
   Again - -thanks to this group for making it easier to actually feel
   good
   about driving the car hard.A  Also - best wishes to those headed to the
   SSC.
   Regards,
   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
   Email: [9]SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
   Direct: [13]312-320-5888
   <[14][10]http://www.patentit.com>
   *Scottsdale Office* | *P*: [15]480.535.6656A  |A  *F:*
   [16]480.535.6628A  |A  *A:* 7689
   East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
   *Chicago Office *|* P:* [17]312.752.4357A  |A  *F:* [18]312.896.5633A
   |A  *A:* 55 E.
   Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
   [19]www.PatentIt.com
   This email is intended only for the recipient above, and may contain
   confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in
   error, please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank
   you.
   On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) <
   [[11]20]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
   > Love it!A  Well said!A A  I agree.
   >
   > Except for the alet others drive it!a Era| NEVER!!A  Only my best
   friend has
   > ever
   > driven my Pantera, and the only one who ever will.
   >
   > Terry
   >
   >
   > "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
   >A  stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
   >
   > Terry W. Himes
   > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   > Dawn Spacecraft Team
   > Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
   > Phone: [21](818) 393-6261
   > Cell:A A A A  [22](818) 653-8213
   > [[12]23]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > d--od-,
   >
   >
   > On 8/22/17, 5:04 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of
   [[13]24]audionut at hushmail.com" <
   > [[14]25]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   > [[15]26]audionut at hushmail.com> wrote:
   >
   >A A A A  Jeez.....Somebody got swept up and carried away at car week.
   >A A A A  (Nice ripply front bumper.A  The one I mangled a while back
   looks
   >A A A A  better than that one.) Maybe I'm the only car guy who feels
   this way
   >A A A A  but it seems to me car collector/investors attach great value
   to some
   >A A A A  really silly things: First car off the lineLast car off the
   lineOwned
   >A A A A  by a celebrity who maybe did this or that ridiculous thing to
   it
   >A A A A  Personal social connections with manufacturer
   people/employees,
   >A A A A  stories (documented or not), various documentations/photos of
   same or
   >A A A A  similarDesigner/famous people signatures (this can be super
   cool I
   >A A A A  agree, but worth $$ tens of thousands?)One owner (one guy can
   screw up
   >A A A A  or neglect a car just as efficiently as several)Low mileage
   >A A A A  (meaningful only when buying modern used cars, otherwise it's
   hearsay.
   >A A A A A  We all know it takes about 10 seconds to disconnect the odo
   cable on
   >A A A A  a Pantera)Useless and inferior original tires, tool bags,
   jacks, spare
   >A A A A  tires, owner's manuals etc.A  (I have all that stuff in boxes
   in the
   >A A A A  garage only cuz I know this crap adds value)Never driven
   (somebody
   >A A A A  bought it new and parked it as an investment?A  wtf?) Take
   the Elvis
   >A A A A  Pantera with the bullet hole in the steering wheel, sitting
   in a
   >A A A A  museum basement or collector barn somewhere--A  is this not
   more sad
   >A A A A  than anything else? "Pathetic, washed-up, pill-popping
   celebrity
   >A A A A  singer in a petulant fit of rage takes a perfectly good
   Pantera and
   >A A A A  instantly turns it into a curiosity."A  Blammo!A  Car is now
   permanently
   >A A A A  out of commission and only for the silly reason that lots of
   dumb
   >A A A A  people think the story is really cool.A A  (sorry Elvis
   lovers!) True
   >A A A A  love of cars is best expressed by driving them, sharing them
   with the
   >A A A A  world as one is able to and maintaining them in as good
   condition as
   >A A A A  possible.A  If you don't do that, it means that what you
   truly love is
   >A A A A  not the car at all.A  What you really love is money.A  For
   this kind of
   >A A A A  "car guy", collectible cars are just an interesting way to
   have fun
   >A A A A  buying and selling as some kind of extravagant hobby. This
   guy who
   >A A A A  paid $200K for this Orange 74--A  is he going to get it on
   the road?
   >A A A A  Is he going to join POCA and drive it to a fun rally?A  Or is
   it going
   >A A A A  to sit in a really nice barn somewhere?
   >A A A A  Heck with the money, people.A  Get in the car, pick up your
   buddy and
   >A A A A  go for a spirited drive on a winding mountain road.A A  Catch
   the look
   >A A A A  on his face while he tries to keep from crapping his pants.A
   This is
   >A A A A  priceless. Then later if you're feeling brave enough, let him
   drive
   >A A A A  it.A A  THAT is being a car guy.
   >A A A A  ------------------------------------------------------------
   > --------------------------------------------
   >A A A A  A few weeks ago, an old friend of mine called out of the blue
   and soon
   >A A A A  showed up with his 12 y/o daughter.A  We talked a bit and
   then he said
   >A A A A  he wanted to show her my Pantera.A A  Well, I knew that what
   he really
   >A A A A  wanted was to check it out himself.A  I clicked open the
   garage door
   >A A A A  and his eyes lit up.A  Smiling ear to ear, he opened the car
   door, slid
   >A A A A  himself into the cockpit and grabbed the wheel without even
   asking me.
   >A A A A A  It was like he couldn't help himself.A  The car just sucked
   him right
   >A A A A  in, which is exactly how I feel about the Pantera.A  (Just
   sitting
   >A A A A  there, the car always seems to be saying:A  "Hey!A  What are
   you
   >A A A A  standing there for? Get in!A  Let's go!") When that kind of
   thing
   >A A A A  happens-- people showing that kind of enthusiasm, it's just
   super
   >A A A A  cool.A  It makes me feel so lucky to own a Pantera.A  I'll be
   taking him
   >A A A A  for a ride sometime soon and if he's got the guts I'll let
   him drive
   >A A A A  it.A A  How could I not?
   >A A A A A  Sent using Hushmail
   >A A A A  On August 21, 2017 at 12:34 PM, "Tom Cabanski"A  wrote:RM
   Auctions
   >A A A A  (Sotheby's Monterey)
   >A A A A  $203,500
   >
   >A A A A  [27][16]http://www.rmsothebys.com/mo17/monterey/lots/1974-de-
   > tomaso-pantera-l-by-ghia/1703937
   >
   >A A A A  Tom
   >
   > _______________________________________________
   >
   >
   > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
   > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
   > DeTomaso mailing list
   > [[17]28]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   > [29][18]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
   >
   > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.)
   use
   > the links above.
   >
   > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward
   any
   > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the
   list.
   > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or
   approve
   > the archiving of list messages.

References

   1. [19]tel:(312)%20320-5888
   2. [20]http://www.patentit.com/
   3. [21]tel:(480)%20535-6656
   4. [22]tel:(480)%20535-6628
   5. [23]tel:(312)%20752-4357
   6. [24]tel:(312)%20896-5633
   7. [25]http://www.PatentIt.com/
   8. [26]mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
   9. [27]mailto:stevelisa at patentit.com
  10. [28]mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
  11. [29]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  12. [30]mailto:robert.wing at jpl.nasa.gov
  13. [31]tel:(312)%20320-5888
  14. [32]http://www.patentit.com/
  15. [33]tel:(480)%20535-6656
  16. [34]tel:(480)%20535-6628
  17. [35]tel:(312)%20752-4357
  18. [36]tel:(312)%20896-5633
  19. [37]http://www.PatentIt.com/
  20. [38]mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
  21. [39]tel:(818)%20393-6261
  22. [40]tel:(818)%20653-8213
  23. [41]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
  24. [42]mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
  25. [43]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
  26. [44]mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
  27. [45]http://www.rmsothebys.com/mo17/monterey/lots/1974-de-
  28. [46]mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  29. [47]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso



_______________________________________________


Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA
Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes
DeTomaso mailing list
[48]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
[49]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso

To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the li
nks above.

Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message p
osted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant
the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of lis
t messages.

References

   1. http://w7tsc.org/
   2. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
   3. mailto:SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
   4. mailto:[8]ehpantera at yahoo.com
   5. mailto:[9]stevelisa at patentit.com
   6. mailto:[10]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
   7. mailto:11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   8. mailto:[12]robert.wing at jpl.nasa.gov
   9. mailto:SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
  10. http://www.patentit.com/
  11. mailto:20]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
  12. mailto:23]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
  13. mailto:24]audionut at hushmail.com
  14. mailto:25]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
  15. mailto:26]audionut at hushmail.com
  16. http://www.rmsothebys.com/mo17/monterey/lots/1974-de
  17. mailto:28]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  18. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  19. tel:(312)%20320-5888
  20. http://www.patentit.com/
  21. tel:(480)%20535-6656
  22. tel:(480)%20535-6628
  23. tel:(312)%20752-4357
  24. tel:(312)%20896-5633
  25. http://www.PatentIt.com/
  26. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
  27. mailto:stevelisa at patentit.com
  28. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
  29. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  30. mailto:robert.wing at jpl.nasa.gov
  31. tel:(312)%20320-5888
  32. http://www.patentit.com/
  33. tel:(480)%20535-6656
  34. tel:(480)%20535-6628
  35. tel:(312)%20752-4357
  36. tel:(312)%20896-5633
  37. http://www.PatentIt.com/
  38. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
  39. tel:(818)%20393-6261
  40. tel:(818)%20653-8213
  41. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
  42. mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
  43. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
  44. mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
  45. http://www.rmsothebys.com/mo17/monterey/lots/1974-de
  46. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  47. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  48. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  49. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso


More information about the DeTomaso mailing list