[DeTomaso] Record price? (warning: tired, opinionated, ranting reply)
Asa Jay Laughton
asajay at asajay.com
Wed Aug 23 09:51:33 EDT 2017
Yes, you can show up in a '65 Galaxy and still be part of Team Pantera
Racing. ;)
Asa
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
Spokane County ARES/RACES Net Manager
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On 8/22/2017 7:19 PM, Steve Lisa wrote:
I would love to come - but it seems that, like all race cars (which it
is primarily), it is only getting done a week or even a few days before
the events.A And, we have already started the winter tear down -- so
the engine is out, transaxle is going for rebuilt, etc. etc.A So, our
hope is it is ready again next spring to race at a bit of a higher
level than this year.A Can I show up with something else, like a 65
Galaxie?A
I am hoping that at some point in the next year or so I reach the limit
of what I can or want to do, and then it will be easier to "maintain"
--- as the "improving" part is past.
Regards,A
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
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On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 7:01 PM, ehpantera [4]<[8]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
wrote:
Steven,A
It would be nice to have you come to an SSCC event.A
MarkA
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From: Steve Lisa [5]<[9]stevelisa at patentit.com>
Date: 8/22/17 9:32 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: "Himes, Terry (397C)" [6]<[10]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: [[7]11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, "Wing, Bob R (394E)"
[8]<[12]robert.wing at jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Record price? (warning: tired, opinionated,
ranting reply)
I agree completely - I looked for a long time for a car like Asa Jay's
(SN5533) --A I wanted a car that was original, but driven, maintained,
and
not something I would feel the urge to "restore" and stick in a garage.
And, the poor thing, SN5533 is really getting abused now....Things will
break, will need to be repaired, and will break again.A The car is
showing
up to the vintage races in street legal form, with its license plate
and
insurance current.A We drive it to the gas station for gas between
sessions.A Then drive the crap out of in the races.
The number 1 response from people:A "Geez, do you really want to do
this to
a Pantera.... its so rare.A How cool.A Don't see many of these on the
street, let alone racing door-to-door."A But, few people realize how
really
affordable (in the scope of buying and cost of ownership) a Pantera is.
That makes it a lost easier to drive like it was meant to be driven -
not
parked in the garage.A Plus, I think MOST Pantera owners feel that
same
way.A Unlike the Ferrari crowd (of which I am also a member), the
buyers
down the road typically aren't as worried about how much the Pantera
has
been driven, but rather, want one that is proven to drive well.
A good reason for that is this group of truly dedicated owners that are
almost rabid about the brand and helping each other.A Again, unlike
the
scores of Ferrari owners - most of whom don't know anything about how
to
actually maintain their cars (other than a mileage/maintenance card in
the
glove box).
Again - -thanks to this group for making it easier to actually feel
good
about driving the car hard.A Also - best wishes to those headed to the
SSC.
Regards,
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
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On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) <
[[11]20]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Love it!A Well said!A A I agree.
>
> Except for the alet others drive it!a Era| NEVER!!A Only my best
friend has
> ever
> driven my Pantera, and the only one who ever will.
>
> Terry
>
>
> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>A stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>
> Terry W. Himes
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> Dawn Spacecraft Team
> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
> Phone: [21](818) 393-6261
> Cell:A A A A [22](818) 653-8213
> [[12]23]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> d--od-,
>
>
> On 8/22/17, 5:04 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of
[[13]24]audionut at hushmail.com" <
> [[14]25]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
> [[15]26]audionut at hushmail.com> wrote:
>
>A A A A Jeez.....Somebody got swept up and carried away at car week.
>A A A A (Nice ripply front bumper.A The one I mangled a while back
looks
>A A A A better than that one.) Maybe I'm the only car guy who feels
this way
>A A A A but it seems to me car collector/investors attach great value
to some
>A A A A really silly things: First car off the lineLast car off the
lineOwned
>A A A A by a celebrity who maybe did this or that ridiculous thing to
it
>A A A A Personal social connections with manufacturer
people/employees,
>A A A A stories (documented or not), various documentations/photos of
same or
>A A A A similarDesigner/famous people signatures (this can be super
cool I
>A A A A agree, but worth $$ tens of thousands?)One owner (one guy can
screw up
>A A A A or neglect a car just as efficiently as several)Low mileage
>A A A A (meaningful only when buying modern used cars, otherwise it's
hearsay.
>A A A A A We all know it takes about 10 seconds to disconnect the odo
cable on
>A A A A a Pantera)Useless and inferior original tires, tool bags,
jacks, spare
>A A A A tires, owner's manuals etc.A (I have all that stuff in boxes
in the
>A A A A garage only cuz I know this crap adds value)Never driven
(somebody
>A A A A bought it new and parked it as an investment?A wtf?) Take
the Elvis
>A A A A Pantera with the bullet hole in the steering wheel, sitting
in a
>A A A A museum basement or collector barn somewhere--A is this not
more sad
>A A A A than anything else? "Pathetic, washed-up, pill-popping
celebrity
>A A A A singer in a petulant fit of rage takes a perfectly good
Pantera and
>A A A A instantly turns it into a curiosity."A Blammo!A Car is now
permanently
>A A A A out of commission and only for the silly reason that lots of
dumb
>A A A A people think the story is really cool.A A (sorry Elvis
lovers!) True
>A A A A love of cars is best expressed by driving them, sharing them
with the
>A A A A world as one is able to and maintaining them in as good
condition as
>A A A A possible.A If you don't do that, it means that what you
truly love is
>A A A A not the car at all.A What you really love is money.A For
this kind of
>A A A A "car guy", collectible cars are just an interesting way to
have fun
>A A A A buying and selling as some kind of extravagant hobby. This
guy who
>A A A A paid $200K for this Orange 74--A is he going to get it on
the road?
>A A A A Is he going to join POCA and drive it to a fun rally?A Or is
it going
>A A A A to sit in a really nice barn somewhere?
>A A A A Heck with the money, people.A Get in the car, pick up your
buddy and
>A A A A go for a spirited drive on a winding mountain road.A A Catch
the look
>A A A A on his face while he tries to keep from crapping his pants.A
This is
>A A A A priceless. Then later if you're feeling brave enough, let him
drive
>A A A A it.A A THAT is being a car guy.
>A A A A ------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------------------------------------
>A A A A A few weeks ago, an old friend of mine called out of the blue
and soon
>A A A A showed up with his 12 y/o daughter.A We talked a bit and
then he said
>A A A A he wanted to show her my Pantera.A A Well, I knew that what
he really
>A A A A wanted was to check it out himself.A I clicked open the
garage door
>A A A A and his eyes lit up.A Smiling ear to ear, he opened the car
door, slid
>A A A A himself into the cockpit and grabbed the wheel without even
asking me.
>A A A A A It was like he couldn't help himself.A The car just sucked
him right
>A A A A in, which is exactly how I feel about the Pantera.A (Just
sitting
>A A A A there, the car always seems to be saying:A "Hey!A What are
you
>A A A A standing there for? Get in!A Let's go!") When that kind of
thing
>A A A A happens-- people showing that kind of enthusiasm, it's just
super
>A A A A cool.A It makes me feel so lucky to own a Pantera.A I'll be
taking him
>A A A A for a ride sometime soon and if he's got the guts I'll let
him drive
>A A A A it.A A How could I not?
>A A A A A Sent using Hushmail
>A A A A On August 21, 2017 at 12:34 PM, "Tom Cabanski"A wrote:RM
Auctions
>A A A A (Sotheby's Monterey)
>A A A A $203,500
>
>A A A A [27][16]http://www.rmsothebys.com/mo17/monterey/lots/1974-de-
> tomaso-pantera-l-by-ghia/1703937
>
>A A A A Tom
>
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