[DeTomaso] VIN Plate Double-stamp
Rob Dumoulin
rob at dumoulins.net
Thu Aug 17 18:15:44 EDT 2017
As a "full disclosure", I did share it with Chuck within a couple of days
after snapping the pic. I admit I did not research the registry for that
information though. It truly is a benefit of ownership to have such
resources.
On Aug 17, 2017 6:00 PM, "The DeTomaso Registry Guy" <
detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
A few weeks ago, I chased down a Pantera that I had not seen in my town
before. I do not want to get into specifics on the VIN until I clear it
with the owner, but it was was double stamped on the first of the last 4
digits (the thousandths). Because the number was very close to VIN #s of
the prior thousand, it seemed reasonable that the factory would have
printed a bunch of plates with the thousand digit pre-stamped.
It seems reasonable, but I wanted to check if anybody else has seen this or
heard that VIN plates were done that way. It's kind of like finding a
double headed coin.
Rob
Rob,
Vin irregularities are actually pretty common for DeTomaso.
If people use the Registry site map, and search for VIN topics like Unusual
VINs, etc...
you will find a number of irregular examples.
I have not added examples of every variation.... just way too many!
>From studying VIN stamps (of thousands of DeTomaso cars) I have seen a wide
variety of
variations, from transposed numbers, to upside down numbers, and including
missing
digits, and more. My analysis indicates that the numbers (on the foot box)
were hand-stamped individually.
One 'might' think that the 'star' DETOMASO 874 part would be a single
stamping,
but I have found variations where the bottom (or top) of letters do not
align as
one might expect from a group stamp.
For cars post-1980 ... I chatted with a person that actually stamped
DeTomaso foot box VINs!
He described using a heavy vise-like tool to stamp the foot box (already in
a partially built car).
I believe that during the Ford-era production, foot box VIN stamps were
made as part of the
initial assembly... Such as; build a foot box, stamp it... add it to the
front bulkhead,
attach that to the next section of the body...
Some photos of the phases of production can be seen in the early 1972 tour
for the news media.
So I do not always 'presume' foul play, when I see a VIN stamping that is
out or the ordinary,
it just requires a closer inspection.
Interesting topic none-the-less.
Chuck
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As a "full disclosure", I did share it with Chuck within a couple of
days after snapping the pic. I admit I did not research the registry
for that information though. It truly is a benefit of ownership to have
such resources.
On Aug 17, 2017 6:00 PM, "The DeTomaso Registry Guy"
<[1]detomasoregistry at gmail.com> wrote:
A few weeks ago, I chased down a Pantera that I had not seen in my town
before.A I do not want to get into specifics on the VIN until I clear
it
with the owner, but it was was double stamped on the first of the last
4
digits (the thousandths).A Because the number was very close to VIN #s
of
the prior thousand, it seemed reasonable that the factory would have
printed a bunch of plates with the thousand digit pre-stamped.
It seems reasonable, but I wanted to check if anybody else has seen
this or
heard that VIN plates were done that way.A It's kind of like finding a
double headed coin.
Rob
Rob,
Vin irregularities are actually pretty common for DeTomaso.
If people use the Registry site map, and search for VIN topics like
Unusual VINs, etc...
you will find a number of irregular examples.
I have not added examples of every variation.... just way too many!
From studying VIN stamps (of thousands of DeTomaso cars) I have seen
a wide variety of
variations, from transposed numbers, to upside down numbers, and
including missing
digits, and more. My analysis indicates that the numbers (on the
foot box)
were hand-stamped individually.
One 'might' think that the 'star' DETOMASO 874 part would be a
single stamping,
but I have found variations where the bottom (or top) of letters do
not align as
one might expect from a group stamp.
For cars post-1980 ... I chatted with a person that actually stamped
DeTomaso foot box VINs!
He described using a heavy vise-like tool to stamp the foot box
(already in a partially built car).
I believe that during the Ford-era production, foot box VIN stamps
were made as part of the
initial assembly... Such as; build a foot box, stamp it... add it to
the front bulkhead,
attach that to the next section of the body...
Some photos of the phases of production can be seen in the early
1972 tour for the news media.
So I do not always 'presume' foul play, when I see a VIN stamping
that is out or the ordinary,
it just requires a closer inspection.
Interesting topic none-the-less.
Chuck
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