[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 158, Issue 16
David Cantagallo
dcantagallo at ymail.com
Thu Aug 17 13:17:57 EDT 2017
Hoping to spread the pictures of the 2017 Pantera Homecoming. Look on Facebook under PANTERA HOMECOMING 2017......see the two dozen cars, Edsel Ford, Raj Nair, a2017 Ford GT and all the fun the participants had. 3 day event raised 10k for Juvenile Diabetes....
David Cantagallo, 4072
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> 1. Re: '72 on eBay no reserve $50K (audionut at hushmail.com)
> 2. Re: '72 on eBay no reserve $50K (Bill Lewis)
> 3. Re: '72 on eBay no reserve $50K (Dave Hofman)
> 4. Re: '72 on eBay no reserve $50K (marshall smith)
> 5. Re: '72 on eBay no reserve $50K (Julian Kift)
> 6. Re: '72 on eBay no reserve $50K (Ken Green)
> 7. Re: '72 on eBay no reserve $50K (Dave Hofman)
> 8. Re: '72 on eBay no reserve $50K (The DeTomaso Registry Guy)
> 9. Re: '72 on eBay no reserve $50K (Julian Kift)
> 10. Re: Chassis (Jack Donahue)
> 11. Re: Chassis (Charles Engles)
> 12. Re: Chassis (Julian Kift)
> 13. Re: Chassis (Charles Engles)
> 14. Re: Chassis (L GRAY)
> 15. Those going to Monterey have a great time!! (Dennis Valdez)
> 16. Re: Chassis (Stephen Nelson)
> 17. Re: Chassis (=?utf-8?Q?Thomas_T=C3=B6rnblom?=)
> 18. Re: Chassis (Julian Kift)
> 19. Re: Chassis (jderyke at aol.com)
> 20. Re: '72 on eBay no reserve $50K (Cullen McCann)
> 21. Re: '72 on eBay no reserve $50K (Himes, Terry (397C))
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 11:47:48 -0700
> From: audionut at hushmail.com
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> Message-ID: <20170816184749.37887C02BC at smtp.hushmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Gotta be the luggage rack. Those are cute on a VW Karmann Ghia but on
> a Pantera.....no. ; ]
> Sent using Hushmail
> On August 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM, "Julian Kift" wrote:I am somewhat
> surprised this Pantera has 5 hrs to go on eBay and has received zero
> bids with a no reserve starting bid at $50K.
> Julian
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
>
> [http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg]
>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other
> www.ebay.com
> 1972 De Tomaso Other in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso, Other |
> eBay
> -------------- next part --------------
> Gotta be the luggage rack.
>
>
>
> Those are cute on a VW Karmann Ghia but on a Pantera.....no.
>
>
>
> ; ]
> Sent using Hushmail
> On August 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM, "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I am somewhat surprised this Pantera has 5 hrs to go on eBay and has
> received zero bids with a no reserve starting bid at $50K.
> Julian
> [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageN
> ame=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> [[2]http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.j
> pg]<http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPage
> Name=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>;
> 1972 De Tomaso
> Other<[3]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?s
> sPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>;
> [4]www.ebay.com
> 1972 De Tomaso Other in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso, Other
> | eBay
>
> References
>
> 1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> 2. http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg]<http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
> 3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
> 4. http://www.ebay.com/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 19:50:38 +0000
> From: Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
> To: "audionut at hushmail.com" <audionut at hushmail.com>,
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> Message-ID:
> <BN6PR1801MB195534EE832811F7893160AEBB820 at BN6PR1801MB1955.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Why no bids at $50,000? Anybody know about this car?
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of audionut at hushmail.com <audionut at hushmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:47 PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
> Gotta be the luggage rack. Those are cute on a VW Karmann Ghia but on
> a Pantera.....no. ; ]
> Sent using Hushmail
> On August 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM, "Julian Kift" wrote:I am somewhat
> surprised this Pantera has 5 hrs to go on eBay and has received zero
> bids with a no reserve starting bid at $50K.
> Julian
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> [http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/232441578753-0-1/s-l1000.jpg]<http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other | eBay<http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
> www.ebay.com
> 1972 DeTomaso Pantera. Rare luggage rack car. Car still has its original paint from the factory. I love this car. but unfortunaly my health (M.S.) is not allowing me to have as much fun with this car anymore! | eBay!
>
>
>
>
> [http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg]
>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other
> www.ebay.com<http://www.ebay.com>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso, Other |
> eBay
> -------------- next part --------------
> Why no bids at $50,000? Anybody know about this car?
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> audionut at hushmail.com <audionut at hushmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:47 PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
> Gotta be the luggage rack. Those are cute on a VW Karmann Ghia but on
> a Pantera.....no. ; ]
> Sent using Hushmail
> On August 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM, "Julian Kift" wrote:I am somewhat
> surprised this Pantera has 5 hrs to go on eBay and has received zero
> bids with a no reserve starting bid at $50K.
> Julian
> [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName
> =STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> [2][s-l1000.jpg]
> [3]1972 De Tomaso Other | eBay
> www.ebay.com
> 1972 DeTomaso Pantera. Rare luggage rack car. Car still has its
> original paint from the factory. I love this car. but unfortunaly my
> health (M.S.) is not allowing me to have as much fun with this car
> anymore! | eBay!
> [[4]http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg]
> 1972 De Tomaso Other
> [5]www.ebay.com
> 1972 De Tomaso Other in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso, Other |
> eBay
>
> References
>
> 1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> 2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> 3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> 4. http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg
> 5. http://www.ebay.com/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 13:01:31 -0700
> From: "Dave Hofman" <david.hofman at cox.net>
> To: "'Bill Lewis'" <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>, <audionut at hushmail.com>,
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> Message-ID: <008501d316ca$744acb60$5ce06220$@cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Not sure where the "No reserve" came from. I see nothing indicating no
> reserve.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
> Of Bill Lewis
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:51 PM
> To: audionut at hushmail.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
> Why no bids at $50,000? Anybody know about this car?
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> audionut at hushmail.com <audionut at hushmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:47 PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
> Gotta be the luggage rack. Those are cute on a VW Karmann Ghia but on a
> Pantera.....no. ; ] Sent using Hushmail On August 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM,
> "Julian Kift" wrote:I am somewhat surprised this Pantera has 5 hrs to go on
> eBay and has received zero bids with a no reserve starting bid at $50K.
> Julian
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3A
> MEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> [http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/232441578753-0-1/s-l1000.jpg]<http://www.ebay
> .com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_tr
> ksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other |
> eBay<http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=ST
> RK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
> www.ebay.com
> 1972 DeTomaso Pantera. Rare luggage rack car. Car still has its original
> paint from the factory. I love this car. but unfortunaly my health (M.S.) is
> not allowing me to have as much fun with this car anymore! | eBay!
>
>
>
>
> [http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg]
>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other
> www.ebay.com<http://www.ebay.com>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso, Other | eBay
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 20:09:13 +0000 (UTC)
> From: marshall smith <marshallgsmith at sbcglobal.net>
> To: 'Bill Lewis' <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>, <audionut at hushmail.com>,
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>, Dave Hofman <david.hofman at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> Message-ID: <266588782.2986544.1502914153887 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Look at the seller information.
>
> Marshall
> --------------------------------------------
> On Wed, 8/16/17, Dave Hofman <david.hofman at cox.net> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> To: "'Bill Lewis'" <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>, audionut at hushmail.com, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Date: Wednesday, August 16, 2017, 1:01 PM
>
> Not sure where the "No reserve" came from. I
> see nothing indicating no
> reserve.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
> On Behalf
> Of Bill Lewis
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:51
> PM
> To: audionut at hushmail.com;
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no
> reserve $50K
>
> Why no bids at $50,000?? Anybody
> know about this car?
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
> on behalf of
> audionut at hushmail.com
> <audionut at hushmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:47
> PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no
> reserve $50K
>
> Gotta be the luggage rack. Those are
> cute on a VW Karmann Ghia but on a
> Pantera.....no. ; ]? Sent using
> Hushmail On August 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM,
> "Julian Kift"? wrote:I am somewhat
> surprised this Pantera has 5 hrs to go on
> eBay and has received zero bids with a
> no reserve starting bid at $50K.
> Julian
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3A
> MEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> [http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/232441578753-0-1/s-l1000.jpg]<http://www.ebay
> .com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_tr
> ksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other |
> eBay<http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=ST
> RK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
> www.ebay.com
> 1972 DeTomaso Pantera. Rare luggage
> rack car. Car still has its original
> paint from the factory. I love this
> car. but unfortunaly my health (M.S.) is
> not allowing me to have as much fun
> with this car anymore! | eBay!
>
>
>
>
> [http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg]
>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other
> www.ebay.com<http://www.ebay.com>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other in eBay Motors,
> Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso, Other | eBay
>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 20:09:43 +0000
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> To: Dave Hofman <david.hofman at cox.net>, 'Bill Lewis'
> <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>, "audionut at hushmail.com"
> <audionut at hushmail.com>, "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> Message-ID:
> <MWHPR1801MB1870F16EA32ADF3735FD9E3695820 at MWHPR1801MB1870.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
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> It's implicit by the fact it is not listed as "reserve not met" and placing a bid of $50K would buy it, alternatively you could look at it that $50K is the reserve as it is the minimum first bid allowed.
>
>
> Julian
>
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Dave Hofman <david.hofman at cox.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:01 PM
> To: 'Bill Lewis'; audionut at hushmail.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
> Not sure where the "No reserve" came from. I see nothing indicating no
> reserve.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
> Of Bill Lewis
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:51 PM
> To: audionut at hushmail.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
> Why no bids at $50,000? Anybody know about this car?
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> audionut at hushmail.com <audionut at hushmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:47 PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
> Gotta be the luggage rack. Those are cute on a VW Karmann Ghia but on a
> Pantera.....no. ; ] Sent using Hushmail On August 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM,
> "Julian Kift" wrote:I am somewhat surprised this Pantera has 5 hrs to go on
> eBay and has received zero bids with a no reserve starting bid at $50K.
> Julian
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3A
> MEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> [http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/232441578753-0-1/s-l1000.jpg]<http://www.ebay
> .com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_tr
> ksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other |
> eBay<http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=ST
> RK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
> www.ebay.com<http://www.ebay.com>
> 1972 DeTomaso Pantera. Rare luggage rack car. Car still has its original
> paint from the factory. I love this car. but unfortunaly my health (M.S.) is
> not allowing me to have as much fun with this car anymore! | eBay!
>
>
>
>
> [http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg]
>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other
> www.ebay.com<http://www.ebay.com>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso, Other | eBay
>
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> It's implicit by the fact it is not listed as "reserve not met" and
> placing a bid of $50K would buy it, alternatively you could look at it
> that $50K is the reserve as it is the minimum first bid allowed.
>
> Julian
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> Dave Hofman <david.hofman at cox.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:01 PM
> To: 'Bill Lewis'; audionut at hushmail.com;
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
> Not sure where the "No reserve" came from. I see nothing indicating no
> reserve.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Bill Lewis
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:51 PM
> To: audionut at hushmail.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> Why no bids at $50,000? Anybody know about this car?
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> audionut at hushmail.com <audionut at hushmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:47 PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> Gotta be the luggage rack. Those are cute on a VW Karmann Ghia but on a
> Pantera.....no. ; ] Sent using Hushmail On August 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM,
> "Julian Kift" wrote:I am somewhat surprised this Pantera has 5 hrs to
> go on
> eBay and has received zero bids with a no reserve starting bid at $50K.
> Julian
> [2]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName
> =STRK%3A
> MEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> [[3]http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/232441578753-0-1/s-l1000.jpg]<http://
> www.ebay
> .com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AI
> T&_tr
> ksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other |
> eBay<http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageNa
> me=ST
> RK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
> [4]www.ebay.com
> 1972 DeTomaso Pantera. Rare luggage rack car. Car still has its
> original
> paint from the factory. I love this car. but unfortunaly my health
> (M.S.) is
> not allowing me to have as much fun with this car anymore! | eBay!
> [[5]http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg]
> 1972 De Tomaso Other
> www.ebay.com<[6]http://www.ebay.com>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso, Other |
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 20:19:29 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>,
> "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> Message-ID: <962705574.3191214.1502914770002 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Photos of the interior look like it was yellow, unless that's just an artifact of shading?? The engine compartment looks like it was stripped and refinished at some point?
> This is from an earlier sale (of the same car???) in?seller's ebay feedback:
>
>
> | Car is a rust bucket, only showed pictures after winning car | j***j ( 3279) | During past year |
> | ? | De Tomaso: Pantera 72 rare color and luggage rack (#232102160416) | US $60,400.00 | ? |
>
>
>
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> To: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 7:36 AM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
> ? I am somewhat surprised this Pantera has 5 hrs to go on eBay and has
> ? received zero bids with a no reserve starting bid at $50K.
>
> ? Julian
>
> ? [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName
> ? =STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> ? [2][moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg]
> ? [3]1972 De Tomaso Other
> ? www.ebay.com
> ? 1972 De Tomaso Other in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso, Other |
> ? eBay
>
> References
>
> ? 1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> ? 2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> ? 3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
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> Photos of the interior look like it was yellow, unless that's just an
> artifact of shading? The engine compartment looks like it was stripped
> and refinished at some point?
> This is from an earlier sale (of the same car???) in seller's ebay
> feedback:
> Car is a rust bucket, only showed pictures after winning car
> j***j ( 3279 Red star icon for feedback score in between 1,000 to 4,999
> )
> During past year
> De Tomaso: Pantera 72 rare color and luggage rack (#232102160416) US
> $60,400.00
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> To: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 7:36 AM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> I am somewhat surprised this Pantera has 5 hrs to go on eBay and has
> received zero bids with a no reserve starting bid at $50K.
> Julian
>
> [1][1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageN
> ame
> =STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> [2][moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg]
> [3]1972 De Tomaso Other
> www.ebay.com
> 1972 De Tomaso Other in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso, Other
> |
> eBay
> References
> 1.
> [2]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName
> =STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> 2.
> [3]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName
> =STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> 3.
> [4]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName
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> 3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> 4. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 13:22:25 -0700
> From: "Dave Hofman" <david.hofman at cox.net>
> To: "'Julian Kift'" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, "'Bill Lewis'"
> <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>, <audionut at hushmail.com>,
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> Message-ID: <009401d316cd$5fce03c0$1f6a0b40$@cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I believe until the first bid is placed it does not state reserve not met.
> In any event it was pulled.
>
>
>
> From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:10 PM
> To: Dave Hofman <david.hofman at cox.net>; 'Bill Lewis'
> <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>; audionut at hushmail.com;
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
>
>
> It's implicit by the fact it is not listed as "reserve not met" and placing
> a bid of $50K would buy it, alternatively you could look at it that $50K is
> the reserve as it is the minimum first bid allowed.
>
>
>
> Julian
>
> _____
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> > on behalf of Dave Hofman
> <david.hofman at cox.net <mailto:david.hofman at cox.net> >
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:01 PM
> To: 'Bill Lewis'; audionut at hushmail.com <mailto:audionut at hushmail.com> ;
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
>
>
> Not sure where the "No reserve" came from. I see nothing indicating no
> reserve.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
> Of Bill Lewis
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:51 PM
> To: audionut at hushmail.com <mailto:audionut at hushmail.com> ;
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
> Why no bids at $50,000? Anybody know about this car?
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> > on behalf of
> audionut at hushmail.com <mailto:audionut at hushmail.com> <audionut at hushmail.com
> <mailto:audionut at hushmail.com> >
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:47 PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
> Gotta be the luggage rack. Those are cute on a VW Karmann Ghia but on a
> Pantera.....no. ; ] Sent using Hushmail On August 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM,
> "Julian Kift" wrote:I am somewhat surprised this Pantera has 5 hrs to go on
> eBay and has received zero bids with a no reserve starting bid at $50K.
> Julian
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3A
> MEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> [http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/232441578753-0-1/s-l1000.jpg]<http://www.ebay
> <http://www.ebay%0b.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STR
> K%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_tr%0bksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
> .com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_tr
> ksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other |
> eBay<http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=ST
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=ST%0bR
> K%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
> RK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
> www.ebay.com <http://www.ebay.com>
> 1972 DeTomaso Pantera. Rare luggage rack car. Car still has its original
> paint from the factory. I love this car. but unfortunaly my health (M.S.) is
> not allowing me to have as much fun with this car anymore! | eBay!
>
>
>
>
> [http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg]
>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other
> www.ebay.com<http://www.ebay.com>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso, Other | eBay
>
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> I believe until the first bid is placed it does not state reserve not
> met. In any event it was pulled.
>
>
> From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:10 PM
> To: Dave Hofman <david.hofman at cox.net>; 'Bill Lewis'
> <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>; audionut at hushmail.com;
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
>
> It's implicit by the fact it is not listed as "reserve not met" and
> placing a bid of $50K would buy it, alternatively you could look at it
> that $50K is the reserve as it is the minimum first bid allowed.
>
>
> Julian
> _____________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
> of Dave Hofman <[2]david.hofman at cox.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:01 PM
> To: 'Bill Lewis'; [3]audionut at hushmail.com;
> [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
>
> Not sure where the "No reserve" came from. I see nothing indicating no
> reserve.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[5]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Bill Lewis
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:51 PM
> To: [6]audionut at hushmail.com; [7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> Why no bids at $50,000? Anybody know about this car?
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <[8]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
> of
> [9]audionut at hushmail.com <[10]audionut at hushmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:47 PM
> To: [11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> Gotta be the luggage rack. Those are cute on a VW Karmann Ghia but on a
> Pantera.....no. ; ] Sent using Hushmail On August 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM,
> "Julian Kift" wrote:I am somewhat surprised this Pantera has 5 hrs to
> go on
> eBay and has received zero bids with a no reserve starting bid at $50K.
> Julian
> [12]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageNam
> e=STRK%3A
> MEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> [[13]http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/232441578753-0-1/s-l1000.jpg]<[14]ht
> tp://www.ebay
> .com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AI
> T&_tr
> ksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other |
> eBay<[15]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPa
> geName=ST
> RK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
> [16]www.ebay.com
> 1972 DeTomaso Pantera. Rare luggage rack car. Car still has its
> original
> paint from the factory. I love this car. but unfortunaly my health
> (M.S.) is
> not allowing me to have as much fun with this car anymore! | eBay!
> [[17]http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg
> ]
> 1972 De Tomaso Other
> www.ebay.com<[18]http://www.ebay.com>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso, Other |
> eBay
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> 11. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 12. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3A
> 13. http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/232441578753-0-1/s-l1000.jpg
> 14. http://www.ebay%0b.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_tr%0bksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> 15. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=ST%0bRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> 16. http://www.ebay.com/
> 17. http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg
> 18. http://www.ebay.com/
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 13:44:20 -0700
> From: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry at gmail.com>
> To: "List DeTomaso Forum" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> Message-ID: <949B347BB178436DB86851709107EE7C at BOSS3A>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
>
> Photos of the interior look like it was yellow, unless that's just an artifact of shading?? The engine compartment looks like it was
> stripped and refinished at some point?
> This is from an earlier sale (of the same car???) in?seller's ebay feedback:
>
>
> | Car is a rust bucket, only showed pictures after winning car | j***j ( 3279) | During past year |
> | ? | De Tomaso: Pantera 72 rare color and luggage rack (#232102160416) | US $60,400.00 | ? |
>
>
> It would have been more informative for the eBay buyer (j***j) leaving that feedback, to have
> supplied the pictures he referenced, to inform future potential buyers.
> But eBay does not provide this ability.
>
> May this car sell at a price fair to both sides, given full knowledge of the condition.
>
>
> I've been informed that this is Pantera 2339. I feel I need to go look it up in the registry.
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 20:45:10 +0000
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> To: Dave Hofman <david.hofman at cox.net>, 'Bill Lewis'
> <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>, "audionut at hushmail.com"
> <audionut at hushmail.com>, "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> Message-ID:
> <MWHPR1801MB18701BC6CFD05055A71C59FE95820 at MWHPR1801MB1870.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Not a Pantera, but zero bids, reserve auction stated under the bid amount;
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Jaguar-E-Type-Series-II-Coupe-Low-Miles-Highly-Original-/391863817457?hash=item5b3ce754f1:g:ibUAAOSwPCVX7CWD&vxp=mtr
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dave Hofman <david.hofman at cox.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:22 PM
> To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Bill Lewis'; audionut at hushmail.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
>
> I believe until the first bid is placed it does not state reserve not met. In any event it was pulled.
>
>
>
> From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:10 PM
> To: Dave Hofman <david.hofman at cox.net>; 'Bill Lewis' <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>; audionut at hushmail.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
>
>
> It's implicit by the fact it is not listed as "reserve not met" and placing a bid of $50K would buy it, alternatively you could look at it that $50K is the reserve as it is the minimum first bid allowed.
>
>
>
> Julian
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Dave Hofman <david.hofman at cox.net<mailto:david.hofman at cox.net>>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:01 PM
> To: 'Bill Lewis'; audionut at hushmail.com<mailto:audionut at hushmail.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
>
>
> Not sure where the "No reserve" came from. I see nothing indicating no
> reserve.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
> Of Bill Lewis
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:51 PM
> To: audionut at hushmail.com<mailto:audionut at hushmail.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
> Why no bids at $50,000? Anybody know about this car?
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
> audionut at hushmail.com<mailto:audionut at hushmail.com> <audionut at hushmail.com<mailto:audionut at hushmail.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:47 PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
> Gotta be the luggage rack. Those are cute on a VW Karmann Ghia but on a
> Pantera.....no. ; ] Sent using Hushmail On August 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM,
> "Julian Kift" wrote:I am somewhat surprised this Pantera has 5 hrs to go on
> eBay and has received zero bids with a no reserve starting bid at $50K.
> Julian
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3A
> MEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> [http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/232441578753-0-1/s-l1000.jpg]<http://www.ebay
> .com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_tr
> ksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649<http://www.ebay%0b.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_tr%0bksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>>
>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other |
> eBay<http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=ST
> RK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649<http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=ST%0bRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>>
> www.ebay.com<http://www.ebay.com>
> 1972 DeTomaso Pantera. Rare luggage rack car. Car still has its original
> paint from the factory. I love this car. but unfortunaly my health (M.S.) is
> not allowing me to have as much fun with this car anymore! | eBay!
>
>
>
>
> [http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg]
>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other
> www.ebay.com<http://www.ebay.com>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso, Other | eBay
>
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> Not a Pantera, but zero bids, reserve auction stated under the bid
> amount;
>
> [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Jaguar-E-Type-Series-II-Coupe-Low-Miles
> -Highly-Original-/391863817457?hash=item5b3ce754f1:g:ibUAAOSwPCVX7CWD&v
> xp=mtr
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Dave Hofman <david.hofman at cox.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:22 PM
> To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Bill Lewis'; audionut at hushmail.com;
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
> I believe until the first bid is placed it does not state reserve not
> met. In any event it was pulled.
>
>
> From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:10 PM
> To: Dave Hofman <david.hofman at cox.net>; 'Bill Lewis'
> <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>; audionut at hushmail.com;
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
>
> It's implicit by the fact it is not listed as "reserve not met" and
> placing a bid of $50K would buy it, alternatively you could look at it
> that $50K is the reserve as it is the minimum first bid allowed.
>
>
> Julian
> _____________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
> of Dave Hofman <[3]david.hofman at cox.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:01 PM
> To: 'Bill Lewis'; [4]audionut at hushmail.com;
> [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>
>
> Not sure where the "No reserve" came from. I see nothing indicating no
> reserve.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[6]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Bill Lewis
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:51 PM
> To: [7]audionut at hushmail.com; [8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> Why no bids at $50,000? Anybody know about this car?
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <[9]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
> of
> [10]audionut at hushmail.com <[11]audionut at hushmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:47 PM
> To: [12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> Gotta be the luggage rack. Those are cute on a VW Karmann Ghia but on a
> Pantera.....no. ; ] Sent using Hushmail On August 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM,
> "Julian Kift" wrote:I am somewhat surprised this Pantera has 5 hrs to
> go on
> eBay and has received zero bids with a no reserve starting bid at $50K.
> Julian
> [13]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageNam
> e=STRK%3A
> MEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> [[14]http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/232441578753-0-1/s-l1000.jpg]<[15]ht
> tp://www.ebay
> .com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AI
> T&_tr
> ksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other |
> eBay<[16]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPa
> geName=ST
> RK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
> [17]www.ebay.com
> 1972 DeTomaso Pantera. Rare luggage rack car. Car still has its
> original
> paint from the factory. I love this car. but unfortunaly my health
> (M.S.) is
> not allowing me to have as much fun with this car anymore! | eBay!
> [[18]http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg
> ]
> 1972 De Tomaso Other
> www.ebay.com<[19]http://www.ebay.com>
> 1972 De Tomaso Other in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso, Other |
> eBay
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> 13. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3A
> 14. http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/232441578753-0-1/s-l1000.jpg
> 15. http://www.ebay%0b.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_tr%0bksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> 16. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=ST%0bRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> 17. http://www.ebay.com/
> 18. http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg
> 19. http://www.ebay.com/
> 20. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 14:42:48 -0700
> From: Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com>
> To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
> Message-ID: <CED6D9D5-F85A-457F-8E62-10EB3694A2D3 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I HIGHLY suggest the rubber vs poly...If you drive your car ? on the street like most everyone else, you'll never appreciate the difference - and it just ain't worth the effort every time she squeaks. It's embarrassing.
> Just sayin'
> Jack
> #4348
>
>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> OEM rubber bushings don't squeak, but aftermarket poly bushings do,
>> they require an annual greasing, so not necessarily 'bad', just feeling
>> unloved...
>>
>> Julian
>> __________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>> djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:06 PM
>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>>
>> Hit a bump, step on the brake, turn the corner, the chassis squeaks and
>> groans. Is this bad bushings?
>> ThanksSent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 17:52:05 -0500
> From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
> To: "'Jack Donahue'" <demongusta at gmail.com>, "'Julian Kift'"
> <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
> Message-ID: <004d01d316e2$48b52f50$da1f8df0$@cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Dear Jack and Julian and Forum,
>
>
> I now have about 40 Pantera-man years on my two Panteras and their early-nineties era Pantera Performance Center poly bushings. I do have zerks in the A arms. In all that time, the dreadful squeak plagued me once after the first installation *before* I put the zerks in place. Since then, they have thousands of miles and a handful of trips from Oklahoma to Phoenix and Houston for Fun Rallies. No squeaking. They do not get annual greasing. They get greased about once every three or four years because that is when I remember to do it and not because they are squeaking.
>
> After having both Panteras for a few years with the rubber bushings and then making the first conversion to polyurethane, I much prefer the poly bushings with occasional lubrication with a grease gun via the zerk fitting every *few* years. In my opinion, poly bushings are perfectly fine for the street, highway and track.
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jack Donahue
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:43 PM
> To: Julian Kift
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>
> I HIGHLY suggest the rubber vs poly...If you drive your car ? on the street like most everyone else, you'll never appreciate the difference - and it just ain't worth the effort every time she squeaks. It's embarrassing.
> Just sayin'
> Jack
> #4348
>
>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> OEM rubber bushings don't squeak, but aftermarket poly bushings do,
>> they require an annual greasing, so not necessarily 'bad', just feeling
>> unloved...
>>
>> Julian
>> __________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>> djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:06 PM
>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>>
>> Hit a bump, step on the brake, turn the corner, the chassis squeaks and
>> groans. Is this bad bushings?
>> ThanksSent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 23:01:06 +0000
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>, 'Jack Donahue'
> <demongusta at gmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
> Message-ID:
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>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Chuck,
>
>
> I too have poly bushings and can only remember ever having greased them once in my 10 years of ownership. I do now seem to recall there being variants on the design, with was it Quella's that have a hexagonal insert design? I believe that may restrict movement and squeaking compared to the regular tube insert.
>
>
> Julian (some say I'm so tight I squeak when I walk...)
>
> ________________________________
> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 3:52 PM
> To: 'Jack Donahue'; 'Julian Kift'
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>
> Dear Jack and Julian and Forum,
>
>
> I now have about 40 Pantera-man years on my two Panteras and their early-nineties era Pantera Performance Center poly bushings. I do have zerks in the A arms. In all that time, the dreadful squeak plagued me once after the first installation *before* I put the zerks in place. Since then, they have thousands of miles and a handful of trips from Oklahoma to Phoenix and Houston for Fun Rallies. No squeaking. They do not get annual greasing. They get greased about once every three or four years because that is when I remember to do it and not because they are squeaking.
>
> After having both Panteras for a few years with the rubber bushings and then making the first conversion to polyurethane, I much prefer the poly bushings with occasional lubrication with a grease gun via the zerk fitting every *few* years. In my opinion, poly bushings are perfectly fine for the street, highway and track.
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jack Donahue
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:43 PM
> To: Julian Kift
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>
> I HIGHLY suggest the rubber vs poly...If you drive your car ? on the street like most everyone else, you'll never appreciate the difference - and it just ain't worth the effort every time she squeaks. It's embarrassing.
> Just sayin'
> Jack
> #4348
>
>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> OEM rubber bushings don't squeak, but aftermarket poly bushings do,
>> they require an annual greasing, so not necessarily 'bad', just feeling
>> unloved...
>>
>> Julian
>> __________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>> djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:06 PM
>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>>
>> Hit a bump, step on the brake, turn the corner, the chassis squeaks and
>> groans. Is this bad bushings?
>> ThanksSent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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> Chuck,
>
> I too have poly bushings and can only remember ever having greased them
> once in my 10 years of ownership. I do now seem to recall there being
> variants on the design, with was it Quella's that have a hexagonal
> insert design? I believe that may restrict movement and squeaking
> compared to the regular tube insert.
>
> Julian (some say I'm so tight I squeak when I walk...)
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 3:52 PM
> To: 'Jack Donahue'; 'Julian Kift'
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>
> Dear Jack and Julian and Forum,
> I now have about 40 Pantera-man years on my two
> Panteras and their early-nineties era Pantera Performance Center poly
> bushings. I do have zerks in the A arms. In all that time, the
> dreadful squeak plagued me once after the first installation *before* I
> put the zerks in place. Since then, they have thousands of miles and
> a handful of trips from Oklahoma to Phoenix and Houston for Fun
> Rallies. No squeaking. They do not get annual greasing. They get
> greased about once every three or four years because that is when I
> remember to do it and not because they are squeaking.
> After having both Panteras for a few years with the
> rubber bushings and then making the first conversion to polyurethane, I
> much prefer the poly bushings with occasional lubrication with a grease
> gun via the zerk fitting every *few* years. In my opinion, poly
> bushings are perfectly fine for the street, highway and track.
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf Of Jack Donahue
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:43 PM
> To: Julian Kift
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
> I HIGHLY suggest the rubber vs poly...If you drive your car on the
> street like most everyone else, you'll never appreciate the difference
> - and it just ain't worth the effort every time she squeaks. It's
> embarrassing.
> Just sayin'
> Jack
> #4348
>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> OEM rubber bushings don't squeak, but aftermarket poly bushings do,
>> they require an annual greasing, so not necessarily 'bad', just
> feeling
>> unloved...
>>
>> Julian
>>
> __________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
> of
>> djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:06 PM
>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>>
>> Hit a bump, step on the brake, turn the corner, the chassis squeaks
> and
>> groans. Is this bad bushings?
>> ThanksSent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 18:14:17 -0500
> From: "Charles Engles" <cengles at cox.net>
> To: "'Julian Kift'" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>, "'Jack Donahue'"
> <demongusta at gmail.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
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> Dear Julian,
>
>
>
> IRRC, they do seem to have the hex insert design. I also seem to recall that the tricks of the day for the early poly bushings were the zerk fittings for periodic lubrication and/or installation with anti-seize rather than grease.
>
>
>
> Then, I *think* that there became available a specific lube for poly bushings that my friend Jim Gray used with success.
>
>
>
> Then, I *think* that there is a graphite impregnated poly bushing currently that is supposed to no squeaking or lubrication needs at all, but I will defer to a real poly bushing expert.
>
>
>
>
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:01 PM
> To: Charles Engles; 'Jack Donahue'
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>
>
>
> Chuck,
>
>
>
> I too have poly bushings and can only remember ever having greased them once in my 10 years of ownership. I do now seem to recall there being variants on the design, with was it Quella's that have a hexagonal insert design? I believe that may restrict movement and squeaking compared to the regular tube insert.
>
>
>
> Julian (some say I'm so tight I squeak when I walk...)
>
> _____
>
> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 3:52 PM
> To: 'Jack Donahue'; 'Julian Kift'
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>
>
>
> Dear Jack and Julian and Forum,
>
>
> I now have about 40 Pantera-man years on my two Panteras and their early-nineties era Pantera Performance Center poly bushings. I do have zerks in the A arms. In all that time, the dreadful squeak plagued me once after the first installation *before* I put the zerks in place. Since then, they have thousands of miles and a handful of trips from Oklahoma to Phoenix and Houston for Fun Rallies. No squeaking. They do not get annual greasing. They get greased about once every three or four years because that is when I remember to do it and not because they are squeaking.
>
> After having both Panteras for a few years with the rubber bushings and then making the first conversion to polyurethane, I much prefer the poly bushings with occasional lubrication with a grease gun via the zerk fitting every *few* years. In my opinion, poly bushings are perfectly fine for the street, highway and track.
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jack Donahue
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:43 PM
> To: Julian Kift
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>
> I HIGHLY suggest the rubber vs poly...If you drive your car ? on the street like most everyone else, you'll never appreciate the difference - and it just ain't worth the effort every time she squeaks. It's embarrassing.
> Just sayin'
> Jack
> #4348
>
>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> OEM rubber bushings don't squeak, but aftermarket poly bushings do,
>> they require an annual greasing, so not necessarily 'bad', just feeling
>> unloved...
>>
>> Julian
>> __________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>> djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:06 PM
>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>>
>> Hit a bump, step on the brake, turn the corner, the chassis squeaks and
>> groans. Is this bad bushings?
>> ThanksSent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
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> Dear Julian,
>
>
> IRRC, they do seem to have the hex insert design. I
> also seem to recall that the tricks of the day for the early poly
> bushings were the zerk fittings for periodic lubrication and/or
> installation with anti-seize rather than grease.
>
>
> Then, I *think* that there became available a specific
> lube for poly bushings that my friend Jim Gray used with success.
>
>
> Then, I *think* that there is a graphite impregnated poly
> bushing currently that is supposed to no squeaking or lubrication needs
> at all, but I will defer to a real poly bushing expert.
>
>
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
> From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:01 PM
> To: Charles Engles; 'Jack Donahue'
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>
>
> Chuck,
>
>
> I too have poly bushings and can only remember ever having greased them
> once in my 10 years of ownership. I do now seem to recall there being
> variants on the design, with was it Quella's that have a hexagonal
> insert design? I believe that may restrict movement and squeaking
> compared to the regular tube insert.
>
>
> Julian (some say I'm so tight I squeak when I walk...)
> _____________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 3:52 PM
> To: 'Jack Donahue'; 'Julian Kift'
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>
>
> Dear Jack and Julian and Forum,
> I now have about 40 Pantera-man years on my two
> Panteras and their early-nineties era Pantera Performance Center poly
> bushings. I do have zerks in the A arms. In all that time, the
> dreadful squeak plagued me once after the first installation *before* I
> put the zerks in place. Since then, they have thousands of miles and
> a handful of trips from Oklahoma to Phoenix and Houston for Fun
> Rallies. No squeaking. They do not get annual greasing. They get
> greased about once every three or four years because that is when I
> remember to do it and not because they are squeaking.
> After having both Panteras for a few years with the
> rubber bushings and then making the first conversion to polyurethane, I
> much prefer the poly bushings with occasional lubrication with a grease
> gun via the zerk fitting every *few* years. In my opinion, poly
> bushings are perfectly fine for the street, highway and track.
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf Of Jack Donahue
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:43 PM
> To: Julian Kift
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
> I HIGHLY suggest the rubber vs poly...If you drive your car 🚗
> on the street like most everyone else, you'll never appreciate the
> difference - and it just ain't worth the effort every time she squeaks.
> It's embarrassing.
> Just sayin'
> Jack
> #4348
>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Julian Kift <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> OEM rubber bushings don't squeak, but aftermarket poly bushings do,
>> they require an annual greasing, so not necessarily 'bad', just
> feeling
>> unloved...
>>
>> Julian
>>
> __________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: DeTomaso <[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
> behalf of
>> [4]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <[5]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:06 PM
>> To: [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>>
>> Hit a bump, step on the brake, turn the corner, the chassis squeaks
> and
>> groans. Is this bad bushings?
>> ThanksSent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
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> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 23:23:58 +0000
> From: L GRAY <tipo874a at msn.com>
> To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
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> ..........Julian,
> .......don't repeat that last part too loudly in public !!!
>
> Leslie A. Gray
>
>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 4:01 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Chuck,
>>
>> I too have poly bushings and can only remember ever having greased them
>> once in my 10 years of ownership. I do now seem to recall there being
>> variants on the design, with was it Quella's that have a hexagonal
>> insert design? I believe that may restrict movement and squeaking
>> compared to the regular tube insert.
>>
>> Julian (some say I'm so tight I squeak when I walk...)
>> __________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 3:52 PM
>> To: 'Jack Donahue'; 'Julian Kift'
>> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>>
>> Dear Jack and Julian and Forum,
>> I now have about 40 Pantera-man years on my two
>> Panteras and their early-nineties era Pantera Performance Center poly
>> bushings. I do have zerks in the A arms. In all that time, the
>> dreadful squeak plagued me once after the first installation *before* I
>> put the zerks in place. Since then, they have thousands of miles and
>> a handful of trips from Oklahoma to Phoenix and Houston for Fun
>> Rallies. No squeaking. They do not get annual greasing. They get
>> greased about once every three or four years because that is when I
>> remember to do it and not because they are squeaking.
>> After having both Panteras for a few years with the
>> rubber bushings and then making the first conversion to polyurethane, I
>> much prefer the poly bushings with occasional lubrication with a grease
>> gun via the zerk fitting every *few* years. In my opinion, poly
>> bushings are perfectly fine for the street, highway and track.
>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>> Behalf Of Jack Donahue
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:43 PM
>> To: Julian Kift
>> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>> I HIGHLY suggest the rubber vs poly...If you drive your car on the
>> street like most everyone else, you'll never appreciate the difference
>> - and it just ain't worth the effort every time she squeaks. It's
>> embarrassing.
>> Just sayin'
>> Jack
>> #4348
>>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> OEM rubber bushings don't squeak, but aftermarket poly bushings do,
>>> they require an annual greasing, so not necessarily 'bad', just
>> feeling
>>> unloved...
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
>> of
>>> djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:06 PM
>>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>>>
>>> Hit a bump, step on the brake, turn the corner, the chassis squeaks
>> and
>>> groans. Is this bad bushings?
>>> ThanksSent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 23:37:47 +0000 (UTC)
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> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 21:17:06 -0700
> From: "Stephen Nelson" <steve at snclocks.com>
> To: "'Charles Engles'" <cengles at cox.net>, "'Jack Donahue'"
> <demongusta at gmail.com>, "'Julian Kift'" <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
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> What Chuck said - 5332 has them and doesn't squeak. OK, except when I let the clutch out too quickly. Then she squeaks, or at least the tires do.
>
> Stephen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles Engles
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 3:52 PM
> To: 'Jack Donahue' <demongusta at gmail.com>; 'Julian Kift' <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>
> Dear Jack and Julian and Forum,
>
>
> I now have about 40 Pantera-man years on my two Panteras and their early-nineties era Pantera Performance Center poly bushings. I do have zerks in the A arms. In all that time, the dreadful squeak plagued me once after the first installation *before* I put the zerks in place. Since then, they have thousands of miles and a handful of trips from Oklahoma to Phoenix and Houston for Fun Rallies. No squeaking. They do not get annual greasing. They get greased about once every three or four years because that is when I remember to do it and not because they are squeaking.
>
> After having both Panteras for a few years with the rubber bushings and then making the first conversion to polyurethane, I much prefer the poly bushings with occasional lubrication with a grease gun via the zerk fitting every *few* years. In my opinion, poly bushings are perfectly fine for the street, highway and track.
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jack Donahue
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:43 PM
> To: Julian Kift
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>
> I HIGHLY suggest the rubber vs poly...If you drive your car ? on the street like most everyone else, you'll never appreciate the difference - and it just ain't worth the effort every time she squeaks. It's embarrassing.
> Just sayin'
> Jack
> #4348
>
>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> OEM rubber bushings don't squeak, but aftermarket poly bushings do,
>> they require an annual greasing, so not necessarily 'bad', just feeling
>> unloved...
>>
>> Julian
>> __________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>> djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:06 PM
>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>>
>> Hit a bump, step on the brake, turn the corner, the chassis squeaks and
>> groans. Is this bad bushings?
>> ThanksSent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 06:30:44 +0200
> From: "=?utf-8?Q?Thomas_T=C3=B6rnblom?=" <tipo874 at gmail.com>
> To: Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
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> A couple of years ago I replaced the front rubber bushings with Marinos offset poly bushings in an attempt at improve tramlining. Not much improvement, but no squeaking and I have not lubricated them since installation.
>
> Thomas
>
>> 16 aug. 2017 kl. 23:42 skrev Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com>:
>>
>> I HIGHLY suggest the rubber vs poly...If you drive your car ? on the street like most everyone else, you'll never appreciate the difference - and it just ain't worth the effort every time she squeaks. It's embarrassing.
>> Just sayin'
>> Jack
>> #4348
>>
>>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> OEM rubber bushings don't squeak, but aftermarket poly bushings do,
>>> they require an annual greasing, so not necessarily 'bad', just feeling
>>> unloved...
>>>
>>> Julian
>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>>> djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:06 PM
>>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>>>
>>> Hit a bump, step on the brake, turn the corner, the chassis squeaks and
>>> groans. Is this bad bushings?
>>> ThanksSent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 04:54:51 +0000
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> To: Thomas T?rnblom <tipo874 at gmail.com>, Jack Donahue
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> One of the best modifications I made was separating, straightening and re-welding the upper front a-arms to accommodate more caster. Admittedly I have wide body that is even more notorious fro tram lining, but the a-arm mod widens the a-arm section that holds the ball joint by 3/4" allowing any caster setting with shims up to 7.5 degrees.
>
>
> Surprisingly one thing that impacted tram lining far more than I had expected was a new set of tires, the set on the car when I purchased it were the older style chevron pattern Michelin Pilot Sports, the newer style are significantly better. Another step up was a slightly larger steering wheel, It hink the old one was 12" dia.
>
>
> Julian
>
> ________________________________
> From: Thomas T?rnblom <tipo874 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:30 PM
> To: Jack Donahue
> Cc: Julian Kift; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>
> A couple of years ago I replaced the front rubber bushings with Marinos offset poly bushings in an attempt at improve tramlining. Not much improvement, but no squeaking and I have not lubricated them since installation.
>
> Thomas
>
>> 16 aug. 2017 kl. 23:42 skrev Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com>:
>>
>> I HIGHLY suggest the rubber vs poly...If you drive your car ? on the street like most everyone else, you'll never appreciate the difference - and it just ain't worth the effort every time she squeaks. It's embarrassing.
>> Just sayin'
>> Jack
>> #4348
>>
>>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> OEM rubber bushings don't squeak, but aftermarket poly bushings do,
>>> they require an annual greasing, so not necessarily 'bad', just feeling
>>> unloved...
>>>
>>> Julian
>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>>> djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:06 PM
>>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>>>
>>> Hit a bump, step on the brake, turn the corner, the chassis squeaks and
>>> groans. Is this bad bushings?
>>> ThanksSent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
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> One of the best modifications I made was separating, straightening and
> re-welding the upper front a-arms to accommodate more caster.
> Admittedly I have wide body that is even more notorious fro tram
> lining, but the a-arm mod widens the a-arm section that holds the ball
> joint by 3/4" allowing any caster setting with shims up to 7.5 degrees.
>
> Surprisingly one thing that impacted tram lining far more than I had
> expected was a new set of tires, the set on the car when I purchased it
> were the older style chevron pattern Michelin Pilot Sports, the newer
> style are significantly better. Another step up was a slightly larger
> steering wheel, It hink the old one was 12" dia.
>
> Julian
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Thomas Toernblom <tipo874 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:30 PM
> To: Jack Donahue
> Cc: Julian Kift; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>
> A couple of years ago I replaced the front rubber bushings with Marinos
> offset poly bushings in an attempt at improve tramlining. Not much
> improvement, but no squeaking and I have not lubricated them since
> installation.
> Thomas
>> 16 aug. 2017 kl. 23:42 skrev Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com>:
>>
>> I HIGHLY suggest the rubber vs poly...If you drive your car on the
> street like most everyone else, you'll never appreciate the difference
> - and it just ain't worth the effort every time she squeaks. It's
> embarrassing.
>> Just sayin'
>> Jack
>> #4348
>>
>>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>
>>> OEM rubber bushings don't squeak, but aftermarket poly bushings do,
>>> they require an annual greasing, so not necessarily 'bad', just
> feeling
>>> unloved...
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
> __________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
> of
>>> djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:06 PM
>>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>>>
>>> Hit a bump, step on the brake, turn the corner, the chassis squeaks
> and
>>> groans. Is this bad bushings?
>>> ThanksSent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
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> Message: 19
> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 02:51:28 -0400
> From: jderyke at aol.com
> To: tipo874 at gmail.com, demongusta at gmail.com
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
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> If you can hear poly bushings squeek, you're going too slow or your mufflers are too restrictive!
> <grin>- J Deryke
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> To: Thomas T?rnblom <tipo874 at gmail.com>; Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com>
> Cc: detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Wed, Aug 16, 2017 9:54 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>
>
> One of the best modifications I made was separating, straightening and
> re-welding the upper front a-arms to accommodate more caster.
> Admittedly I have wide body that is even more notorious fro tram
> lining, but the a-arm mod widens the a-arm section that holds the ball
> joint by 3/4" allowing any caster setting with shims up to 7.5 degrees.
>
> Surprisingly one thing that impacted tram lining far more than I had
> expected was a new set of tires, the set on the car when I purchased it
> were the older style chevron pattern Michelin Pilot Sports, the newer
> style are significantly better. Another step up was a slightly larger
> steering wheel, It hink the old one was 12" dia.
>
> Julian
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Thomas Toernblom <tipo874 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:30 PM
> To: Jack Donahue
> Cc: Julian Kift; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>
> A couple of years ago I replaced the front rubber bushings with Marinos
> offset poly bushings in an attempt at improve tramlining. Not much
> improvement, but no squeaking and I have not lubricated them since
> installation.
> Thomas
>> 16 aug. 2017 kl. 23:42 skrev Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com>:
>>
>> I HIGHLY suggest the rubber vs poly...If you drive your car on the
> street like most everyone else, you'll never appreciate the difference
> - and it just ain't worth the effort every time she squeaks. It's
> embarrassing.
>> Just sayin'
>> Jack
>> #4348
>>
>>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>
>>> OEM rubber bushings don't squeak, but aftermarket poly bushings do,
>>> they require an annual greasing, so not necessarily 'bad', just
> feeling
>>> unloved...
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
> __________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
> of
>>> djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:06 PM
>>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>>>
>>> Hit a bump, step on the brake, turn the corner, the chassis squeaks
> and
>>> groans. Is this bad bushings?
>>> ThanksSent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
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> If you can hear poly bushings squeek, you're going too slow or your
> mufflers are too restrictive!
> <grin>- J Deryke
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> To: Thomas TAP:rnblom <tipo874 at gmail.com>; Jack Donahue
> <demongusta at gmail.com>
> Cc: detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Wed, Aug 16, 2017 9:54 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
> One of the best modifications I made was separating, straightening and
> re-welding the upper front a-arms to accommodate more caster.
> Admittedly I have wide body that is even more notorious fro tram
> lining, but the a-arm mod widens the a-arm section that holds the ball
> joint by 3/4" allowing any caster setting with shims up to 7.5 degrees.
> Surprisingly one thing that impacted tram lining far more than I had
> expected was a new set of tires, the set on the car when I purchased it
> were the older style chevron pattern Michelin Pilot Sports, the newer
> style are significantly better. Another step up was a slightly larger
> steering wheel, It hink the old one was 12" dia.
> Julian
> __________________________________________________________________
> From: Thomas Toernblom <[1]tipo874 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:30 PM
> To: Jack Donahue
> Cc: Julian Kift; [2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
> A couple of years ago I replaced the front rubber bushings with Marinos
> offset poly bushings in an attempt at improve tramlining. Not much
> improvement, but no squeaking and I have not lubricated them since
> installation.
> Thomas
>> 16 aug. 2017 kl. 23:42 skrev Jack Donahue <[3]demongusta at gmail.com>:
>>
>> I HIGHLY suggest the rubber vs poly...If you drive your car on the
> street like most everyone else, you'll never appreciate the difference
> - and it just ain't worth the effort every time she squeaks. It's
> embarrassing.
>> Just sayin'
>> Jack
>> #4348
>>
>>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Julian Kift
> <[4]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>
>>> OEM rubber bushings don't squeak, but aftermarket poly bushings do,
>>> they require an annual greasing, so not necessarily 'bad', just
> feeling
>>> unloved...
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
> __________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-[5]bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
> behalf
> of
>>> [6]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <[7]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:06 PM
>>> To: [8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>>>
>>> Hit a bump, step on the brake, turn the corner, the chassis squeaks
> and
>>> groans. Is this bad bushings?
>>> ThanksSent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
>>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 20
> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 05:21:37 -0500
> From: Cullen McCann <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>
> To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
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> In my opinion, Marshall Smith is correct. Zero feedback seller rating. You
> can't list hardly anything expensive on eBay with no seller history or
> reputation and expect people to bid. Thats how scams happen.
>
> People talk all the time about how they have been scammed on eBay, and I
> know it happens. But I personally believe that if you pay attention to the
> seller ratings and look at the seller history you can avoid 99% of these
> problems.....
>
> Cullen
>
>> On Aug 16, 2017 3:45 PM, "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Not a Pantera, but zero bids, reserve auction stated under the bid
>> amount;
>>
>> [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Jaguar-E-Type-Series-II-Coupe-Low-Miles
>> -Highly-Original-/391863817457?hash=item5b3ce754f1:g:ibUAAOSwPCVX7CWD&v
>> xp=mtr
>> __________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: Dave Hofman <david.hofman at cox.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:22 PM
>> To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Bill Lewis'; audionut at hushmail.com;
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>>
>> I believe until the first bid is placed it does not state reserve not
>> met. In any event it was pulled.
>>
>>
>> From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:10 PM
>> To: Dave Hofman <david.hofman at cox.net>; 'Bill Lewis'
>> <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>; audionut at hushmail.com;
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>>
>>
>> It's implicit by the fact it is not listed as "reserve not met" and
>> placing a bid of $50K would buy it, alternatively you could look at it
>> that $50K is the reserve as it is the minimum first bid allowed.
>>
>>
>> Julian
>> _____________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
>> of Dave Hofman <[3]david.hofman at cox.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:01 PM
>> To: 'Bill Lewis'; [4]audionut at hushmail.com;
>> [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>>
>>
>> Not sure where the "No reserve" came from. I see nothing indicating no
>> reserve.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [[6]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Bill Lewis
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:51 PM
>> To: [7]audionut at hushmail.com; [8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>> Why no bids at $50,000? Anybody know about this car?
>> ________________________________
>> From: DeTomaso <[9]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
>> of
>> [10]audionut at hushmail.com <[11]audionut at hushmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:47 PM
>> To: [12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>> Gotta be the luggage rack. Those are cute on a VW Karmann Ghia but on a
>> Pantera.....no. ; ] Sent using Hushmail On August 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM,
>> "Julian Kift" wrote:I am somewhat surprised this Pantera has 5 hrs to
>> go on
>> eBay and has received zero bids with a no reserve starting bid at $50K.
>> Julian
>> [13]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageNam
>> e=STRK%3A
>> MEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
>> [[14]http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/232441578753-0-1/s-l1000.jpg]<[15]ht
>> tp://www.ebay
>> .com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AI
>> T&_tr
>> ksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
>> 1972 De Tomaso Other |
>> eBay<[16]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPa
>> geName=ST
>> RK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
>> [17]www.ebay.com
>> 1972 DeTomaso Pantera. Rare luggage rack car. Car still has its
>> original
>> paint from the factory. I love this car. but unfortunaly my health
>> (M.S.) is
>> not allowing me to have as much fun with this car anymore! | eBay!
>> [[18]http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg
>> ]
>> 1972 De Tomaso Other
>> www.ebay.com<[19]http://www.ebay.com>
>> 1972 De Tomaso Other in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso, Other |
>> eBay
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>> 1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Jaguar-E-Type-Series-II-Coupe-
>> Low-Miles-Highly-Original-/391863817457?hash=item5b3ce754f1:g:
>> ibUAAOSwPCVX7CWD&vxp=mtr
>> 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>> 3. mailto:david.hofman at cox.net
>> 4. mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
>> 5. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 6. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>> 7. mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
>> 8. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 9. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
>> 10. mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
>> 11. mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
>> 12. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 13. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?
>> ssPageName=STRK%3A
>> 14. http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/232441578753-0-1/s-l1000.jpg
>> 15. http://www.ebay%0b.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/
>> 232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_tr%0bksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
>> 16. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?
>> ssPageName=ST%0bRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
>> 17. http://www.ebay.com/
>> 18. http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg
>> 19. http://www.ebay.com/
>> 20. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> 21. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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> In my opinion, Marshall Smith is correct. Zero feedback seller rating.
> You can't list hardly anything expensive on eBay with no seller history
> or reputation and expect people to bid. Thats how scams happen.A
> People talk all the time about how they have been scammed on eBay, and
> I know it happens.A But I personally believe that if you pay attention
> to the seller ratings and look at the seller history you can avoid 99%
> of these problems.....
> Cullen
>
> On Aug 16, 2017 3:45 PM, "Julian Kift" <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> A A Not a Pantera, but zero bids, reserve auction stated under the
> bid
> A A amount;
> A A [1][2]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Jaguar-E-Type-Series-II-
> Coupe-Low-Miles
> A A -Highly-Original-/391863817457?hash=item5b3ce754f1:g:
> ibUAAOSwPCVX7CWD&v
> A A xp=mtr
> A A A ____________________________________________________________
> ______
> A A From: Dave Hofman <[3]david.hofman at cox.net>
> A A Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:22 PM
> A A To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Bill Lewis'; [4]audionut at hushmail.com;
> A A [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> A A Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> A A I believe until the first bid is placed it does not state
> reserve not
> A A met. In any event it was pulled.
> A A From: Julian Kift [mailto:[6]julian_kift at hotmail.com]
> A A Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:10 PM
> A A To: Dave Hofman <[7]david.hofman at cox.net>; 'Bill Lewis'
> A A <[8]lotus0005 at hotmail.com>; [9]audionut at hushmail.com;
> A A [10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> A A It's implicit by the fact it is not listed as "reserve not met"
> and
> A A placing a bid of $50K would buy it, alternatively you could
> look at it
> A A that $50K is the reserve as it is the minimum first bid
> allowed.
> A A Julian
> A A ____________________________________________________________
> _________
> A A From: DeTomaso <[2][11]detomaso-bounces at server.
> detomasolist.com> on behalf
> A A of Dave Hofman <[3][12]david.hofman at cox.net>
> A A Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:01 PM
> A A To: 'Bill Lewis'; [4][13]audionut at hushmail.com;
> A A [5][14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> A A Not sure where the "No reserve" came from. I see nothing
> indicating no
> A A reserve.
> A A -----Original Message-----
> A A From: DeTomaso [[6]mailto:[15]detomaso-bounces@
> server.detomasolist.com] On
> A A Behalf
> A A Of Bill Lewis
> A A Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:51 PM
> A A To: [7][16]audionut at hushmail.com; [8][17]detomaso at server.
> detomasolist.com
> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> A A Why no bids at $50,000?A Anybody know about this car?
> A A ________________________________
> A A From: DeTomaso <[9][18]detomaso-bounces at server.
> detomasolist.com> on behalf
> A A of
> A A [10][19]audionut at hushmail.com <[11][20]audionut at hushmail.com>
> A A Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:47 PM
> A A To: [12][21]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> A A Gotta be the luggage rack. Those are cute on a VW Karmann Ghia
> but on a
> A A Pantera.....no. ; ]A Sent using Hushmail On August 16, 2017 at
> 7:36 AM,
> A A "Julian Kift"A wrote:I am somewhat surprised this Pantera has
> 5 hrs to
> A A go on
> A A eBay and has received zero bids with a no reserve starting bid
> at $50K.
> A A Julian
> A A [13][22]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/
> 232441578753?ssPageNam
> A A e=STRK%3A
> A A MEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> A A [[14][23]http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/232441578753-0-1/s-
> l1000.jpg]<[15]ht
> A A tp://www.ebay
> A A .com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%
> 3AMEBIDX%3AI
> A A T&_tr
> A A ksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
> A A 1972 De Tomaso Other |
> A A eBay<[16][24]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/
> 232441578753?ssPa
> A A geName=ST
> A A RK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
> A A [17][25]www.ebay.com
> A A 1972 DeTomaso Pantera. Rare luggage rack car. Car still has its
> A A original
> A A paint from the factory. I love this car. but unfortunaly my
> health
> A A (M.S.) is
> A A not allowing me to have as much fun with this car anymore! |
> eBay!
> A A [[18][26]http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/
> moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg
> A A ]
> A A 1972 De Tomaso Other
> A A [27]www.ebay.com<[19][28]http://www.ebay.com>
> A A 1972 De Tomaso Other in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso,
> Other |
> A A eBay
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> References
> A A 1. [31]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-
> Jaguar-E-Type-Series-II-Coupe-Low-Miles-Highly-Original-/
> 391863817457?hash=item5b3ce754f1:g:ibUAAOSwPCVX7CWD&vxp=mtr
> A A 2. mailto:[32]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> A A 3. mailto:[33]david.hofman at cox.net
> A A 4. mailto:[34]audionut at hushmail.com
> A A 5. mailto:[35]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> A A 6. mailto:[36]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> A A 7. mailto:[37]audionut at hushmail.com
> A A 8. mailto:[38]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> A A 9. mailto:[39]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> A 10. mailto:[40]audionut at hushmail.com
> A 11. mailto:[41]audionut at hushmail.com
> A 12. mailto:[42]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> A 13. [43]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-
> De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3A
> A 14. [44]http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/
> 232441578753-0-1/s-l1000.jpg
> A 15. [45]http://www.ebay%[46]0b.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/
> 232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_tr%0bksid=
> p2060353.m1438.l2649
> A 16. [47]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-
> De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=ST%0bRK%3AMEBIDX%
> 3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> A 17. [48]http://www.ebay.com/
> A 18. [49]http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/
> moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg
> A 19. [50]http://www.ebay.com/
> A 20. mailto:[51]DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> A 21. [52]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> _______________________________________________
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> References
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> 1. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
> 2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Jaguar-E-Type-Series-II-Coupe-Low-Miles
> 3. mailto:david.hofman at cox.net
> 4. mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
> 5. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 6. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
> 7. mailto:david.hofman at cox.net
> 8. mailto:lotus0005 at hotmail.com
> 9. mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
> 10. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 11. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> 12. mailto:david.hofman at cox.net
> 13. mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
> 14. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 15. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> 16. mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
> 17. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 18. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> 19. mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
> 20. mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
> 21. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 22. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageNam
> 23. http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/232441578753-0-1/s-l1000.jpg
> 24. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPa
> 25. http://www.ebay.com/
> 26. http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg
> 27. http://www.ebay.com/
> 28. http://www.ebay.com/
> 29. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 30. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> 31. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Jaguar-E-Type-Series-II-Coupe-Low-Miles-Highly-Original-/391863817457?hash=item5b3ce754f1:g:ibUAAOSwPCVX7CWD&vxp=mtr
> 32. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> 33. mailto:david.hofman at cox.net
> 34. mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
> 35. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 36. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> 37. mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
> 38. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 39. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
> 40. mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
> 41. mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
> 42. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 43. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3A
> 44. http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/232441578753-0-1/s-l1000.jpg
> 45. http://www.ebay/
> 46. http://0b.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_tr%0bksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> 47. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=ST%0bRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> 48. http://www.ebay.com/
> 49. http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg
> 50. http://www.ebay.com/
> 51. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 52. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
> 53. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 54. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 15:03:33 +0000
> From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> To: Cullen McCann <cmccann1972 at gmail.com>, Julian Kift
> <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
> Message-ID: <1831C998-479D-49ED-B8A1-4442D595F4F8 at jpl.nasa.gov>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Very True statement. I buy everything on eBay! EVERY thing. Even my last 2 cars.
> I pay close attention to who I am dealing with and with larger items, I contact them.
>
> I rarely have a problem, but the few times I did, the vendor or eBay refunded my money!
> I?ve sold many things on eBay also, and I can tell you, reputation is important if you want to
> continue. Which is why good vendors will try very hard to settle any problems, before getting
> negative feedback. If you think you see a scam, eBay will pursue it. I?ve forced things to be
> taken off eBay. You have to produce convincing evidence of the problem, but they act quickly.
>
> Just my experience. Your mileage may vary.
>
>
>
>
>
> "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
> stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>
> Terry W. Himes
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> Dawn Spacecraft Team
> Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
> Cell: (818) 653-8213
> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> ??
>
>
> On 8/17/17, 3:21 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Cullen McCann" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of cmccann1972 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In my opinion, Marshall Smith is correct. Zero feedback seller rating. You
> can't list hardly anything expensive on eBay with no seller history or
> reputation and expect people to bid. Thats how scams happen.
>
> People talk all the time about how they have been scammed on eBay, and I
> know it happens. But I personally believe that if you pay attention to the
> seller ratings and look at the seller history you can avoid 99% of these
> problems.....
>
> Cullen
>
>> On Aug 16, 2017 3:45 PM, "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Not a Pantera, but zero bids, reserve auction stated under the bid
>> amount;
>>
>> [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Jaguar-E-Type-Series-II-Coupe-Low-Miles
>> -Highly-Original-/391863817457?hash=item5b3ce754f1:g:ibUAAOSwPCVX7CWD&v
>> xp=mtr
>> __________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: Dave Hofman <david.hofman at cox.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:22 PM
>> To: 'Julian Kift'; 'Bill Lewis'; audionut at hushmail.com;
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>>
>> I believe until the first bid is placed it does not state reserve not
>> met. In any event it was pulled.
>>
>>
>> From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:10 PM
>> To: Dave Hofman <david.hofman at cox.net>; 'Bill Lewis'
>> <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>; audionut at hushmail.com;
>> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>>
>>
>> It's implicit by the fact it is not listed as "reserve not met" and
>> placing a bid of $50K would buy it, alternatively you could look at it
>> that $50K is the reserve as it is the minimum first bid allowed.
>>
>>
>> Julian
>> _____________________________________________________________________
>>
>> From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
>> of Dave Hofman <[3]david.hofman at cox.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:01 PM
>> To: 'Bill Lewis'; [4]audionut at hushmail.com;
>> [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>>
>>
>> Not sure where the "No reserve" came from. I see nothing indicating no
>> reserve.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [[6]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Bill Lewis
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:51 PM
>> To: [7]audionut at hushmail.com; [8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>> Why no bids at $50,000? Anybody know about this car?
>> ________________________________
>> From: DeTomaso <[9]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
>> of
>> [10]audionut at hushmail.com <[11]audionut at hushmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:47 PM
>> To: [12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] '72 on eBay no reserve $50K
>> Gotta be the luggage rack. Those are cute on a VW Karmann Ghia but on a
>> Pantera.....no. ; ] Sent using Hushmail On August 16, 2017 at 7:36 AM,
>> "Julian Kift" wrote:I am somewhat surprised this Pantera has 5 hrs to
>> go on
>> eBay and has received zero bids with a no reserve starting bid at $50K.
>> Julian
>> [13]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageNam
>> e=STRK%3A
>> MEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
>> [[14]http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/232441578753-0-1/s-l1000.jpg]<[15]ht
>> tp://www.ebay
>> .com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AI
>> T&_tr
>> ksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
>> 1972 De Tomaso Other |
>> eBay<[16]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-De-Tomaso-Other/232441578753?ssPa
>> geName=ST
>> RK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
>> [17]www.ebay.com
>> 1972 DeTomaso Pantera. Rare luggage rack car. Car still has its
>> original
>> paint from the factory. I love this car. but unfortunaly my health
>> (M.S.) is
>> not allowing me to have as much fun with this car anymore! | eBay!
>> [[18]http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/moSalINpCGZq1Ox2RKSOk3Q.jpg
>> ]
>> 1972 De Tomaso Other
>> www.ebay.com<[19]http://www.ebay.com>
>> 1972 De Tomaso Other in eBay Motors, Cars & Trucks, De Tomaso, Other |
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>> 232441578753?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_tr%0bksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
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