[DeTomaso] Chassis

Wed Aug 16 19:01:06 EDT 2017

Chuck,

I too have poly bushings and can only remember ever having greased them once in my 10 years of ownership. I do now seem to recall there being variants on the design, with was it Quella's that have a hexagonal insert design? I believe that may restrict movement and squeaking compared to the regular tube insert.

Julian (some say I'm so tight I squeak when I walk...)

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From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 3:52 PM
To: 'Jack Donahue'; 'Julian Kift'
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Chassis

Dear Jack and Julian and Forum,

                 I now have about 40 Pantera-man years on my two Panteras and their early-nineties era Pantera Performance Center poly bushings.  I do have zerks in the A arms.   In all that time, the dreadful squeak plagued me once after the first installation *before* I put the zerks in place.   Since then, they have thousands of miles and a handful of trips from Oklahoma to Phoenix and Houston for Fun Rallies.  No squeaking.   They do not get annual greasing.   They get greased about once every three or four years because that is when I remember to do it and not because they are squeaking.

                After having both Panteras for a few years with the rubber bushings and then making the first conversion to polyurethane, I much prefer the poly bushings with occasional lubrication with a grease gun via the zerk fitting every *few* years.    In my opinion, poly bushings are perfectly fine for the street, highway and track.

                                Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles

-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jack Donahue
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:43 PM
To: Julian Kift
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis

I HIGHLY suggest the rubber vs poly...If you drive your car 🚗 on the street like most everyone else, you'll never appreciate the difference - and it just ain't worth the effort every time she squeaks. It's embarrassing.
Just sayin'
Jack
#4348

> On Aug 15, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>   OEM rubber bushings don't squeak, but aftermarket poly bushings do,
>   they require an annual greasing, so not necessarily 'bad', just feeling
>   unloved...
>
>   Julian
>     __________________________________________________________________
>
>   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>   djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
>   Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:06 PM
>   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>   Subject: [DeTomaso] Chassis
>
>   Hit a bump, step on the brake, turn the corner, the chassis squeaks and
>   groans. Is this bad bushings?
>   ThanksSent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
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   Chuck,

   I too have poly bushings and can only remember ever having greased them
   once in my 10 years of ownership. I do now seem to recall there being
   variants on the design, with was it Quella's that have a hexagonal
   insert design? I believe that may restrict movement and squeaking
   compared to the regular tube insert.

   Julian (some say I'm so tight I squeak when I walk...)
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
   Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 3:52 PM
   To: 'Jack Donahue'; 'Julian Kift'
   Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Chassis

   Dear Jack and Julian and Forum,
                    I now have about 40 Pantera-man years on my two
   Panteras and their early-nineties era Pantera Performance Center poly
   bushings.  I do have zerks in the A arms.   In all that time, the
   dreadful squeak plagued me once after the first installation *before* I
   put the zerks in place.   Since then, they have thousands of miles and
   a handful of trips from Oklahoma to Phoenix and Houston for Fun
   Rallies.  No squeaking.   They do not get annual greasing.   They get
   greased about once every three or four years because that is when I
   remember to do it and not because they are squeaking.
                   After having both Panteras for a few years with the
   rubber bushings and then making the first conversion to polyurethane, I
   much prefer the poly bushings with occasional lubrication with a grease
   gun via the zerk fitting every *few* years.    In my opinion, poly
   bushings are perfectly fine for the street, highway and track.
                                   Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf Of Jack Donahue
   Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:43 PM
   To: Julian Kift
   Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Chassis
   I HIGHLY suggest the rubber vs poly...If you drive your car on the
   street like most everyone else, you'll never appreciate the difference
   - and it just ain't worth the effort every time she squeaks. It's
   embarrassing.
   Just sayin'
   Jack
   #4348
   > On Aug 15, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   >   OEM rubber bushings don't squeak, but aftermarket poly bushings do,
   >   they require an annual greasing, so not necessarily 'bad', just
   feeling
   >   unloved...
   >
   >   Julian
   >
   __________________________________________________________________
   >
   >   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
   of
   >   djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
   >   Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:06 PM
   >   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   >   Subject: [DeTomaso] Chassis
   >
   >   Hit a bump, step on the brake, turn the corner, the chassis squeaks
   and
   >   groans. Is this bad bushings?
   >   ThanksSent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
   > _______________________________________________
   >
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