[DeTomaso] What says the 'Collective' about a 'Slugger'

Daniel C Jones daniel.c.jones2 at gmail.com
Tue Aug 1 10:17:02 EDT 2017


> Also, the LS3 has amasing amounts of torque right off idle and they are
extremely reliable if modified correctly.
> The 13b torque curve resembles an old 2 stroke dirt bike engine.

Cue up Hitler reacts to the Rotards:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxsY4lEGRBI

Dan Jones

On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 9:11 AM, George B <gkb1968 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>    Actually a 13b is about 250lbs dry.  An LS3 is only 375lbs dry (with
>    water pump, plastic intake, flex plate, balancer and valve covers with
>    coil packs). If you add the weight of the turbos, intercooler and
>    related plumbing/brackets to the rotory engine there really isn't all
>    that much difference in wieght.
>    The center if mass on the LS3 is also very low compared to most modern
>    engines. It doesn't have 4 heavy cams riding on top of the engine with
>    gigantic heads housing all of the extra valve train components.
>    Also, the LS3 has amasing amounts of torque right off idle and they are
>    extremely reliable if modified correctly. The 13b torque curve
>    resembles an old 2 stroke dirt bike engine.
>    I do agree that the rotory engine is a very different and very
>    interesting piece of equipment anyway.
>    George
>    Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>    -------- Original message --------
>    From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
>    Date: 8/1/17 12:46 AM (GMT-05:00)
>    To: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
>    Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What says the 'Collective' about a 'Slugger'
>
>    What did he do with the rotary? You can get 800 hp out of a rotary with
>    the turbo and it weighs half of an LS. :-)
>    [1]https://youtu.be/D9pNxV00tpA
>    If he still had the 13b I'll take it off his hands. :-)
>    Ed
>    Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>    > On Jul 31, 2017, at 20:23, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
>    <byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>    >
>    > Interesting....
>    > If the compressor is "oil locked", I wonder how does spinning about
>    30 times
>    > in 1/2 second, cut it off for 1/2 second, before doing it again
>    actually
>    > helps.
>    >
>    > -----Original Message-----
>    > From: DeTomaso [[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>    On Behalf
>    > Of Jerry Knotts
>    > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 22:06 PM
>    > To: DeTomaso list new
>    > Subject: [DeTomaso] What says the 'Collective' about a 'Slugger'
>    >
>    > Have been having trouble with my air in my LS powered RX-7.   I have
>    > been through 3 different mechanics and compressors in the last 2
>    years.
>    > A good friend and retired mechanic mentioned the other day I might
>    want to
>    > look into a 'Slugger' in conjunction with my next compressor and
>    dryer
>    > install.  A 'Slugger' is a small electronic device to vary the ground
>    and
>    > applied voltage to a compressor on initial start of the compressor.
>    He
>    > claims that the oil will build up and drain back into a low mounted
>    a/c
>    > compressor after it sits idle for a while.  The same location as a GM
>    LS
>    > install and also a Pantera.
>    >
>    > Was wondering if anyone had used one of these devices and if it has
>    been
>    > successful or not?
>    >
>    > Have had consistent problems with the air in the 'P' cars but hasn't
>    been
>    > attributable to the compressor.
>    >
>    >
>    > They are only about 35 bucks on e-play, so I am thinking about trying
>    to
>    > save the valves in the new compressor.
>    >
>    > Just wondering?
>    >
>    > jerry knotts
>    >
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   > Also, the LS3 has amasing amounts of torque right off idle and they
   are extremely reliable if modified correctly.
   > The 13b torque curve resembles an old 2 stroke dirt bike engine.
   Cue up Hitler reacts to the Rotards:
   A [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxsY4lEGRBI
   A
   Dan Jones

   On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 9:11 AM, George B <[2]gkb1968 at hotmail.com>
   wrote:

     A  A Actually a 13b is about 250lbs dry.A  An LS3 is only 375lbs dry
     (with
     A  A water pump, plastic intake, flex plate, balancer and valve
     covers with
     A  A coil packs). If you add the weight of the turbos, intercooler
     and
     A  A related plumbing/brackets to the rotory engine there really
     isn't all
     A  A that much difference in wieght.
     A  A The center if mass on the LS3 is also very low compared to most
     modern
     A  A engines. It doesn't have 4 heavy cams riding on top of the
     engine with
     A  A gigantic heads housing all of the extra valve train components.
     A  A Also, the LS3 has amasing amounts of torque right off idle and
     they are
     A  A extremely reliable if modified correctly. The 13b torque curve
     A  A resembles an old 2 stroke dirt bike engine.
     A  A I do agree that the rotory engine is a very different and very
     A  A interesting piece of equipment anyway.
     A  A George
     A  A Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
     A  A -------- Original message --------
     A  A From: Ed Mendez <[3]edducati at mac.com>
     A  A Date: 8/1/17 12:46 AM (GMT-05:00)
     A  A To: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <[4]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
     A  A Cc: [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     A  A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] What says the 'Collective' about a
     'Slugger'
     A  A What did he do with the rotary? You can get 800 hp out of a
     rotary with
     A  A the turbo and it weighs half of an LS. :-)
     A  A [1][6]https://youtu.be/D9pNxV00tpA
     A  A If he still had the 13b I'll take it off his hands. :-)
     A  A Ed
     A  A Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
     A  A > On Jul 31, 2017, at 20:23, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
     A  A <[7]byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
     A  A >
     A  A > Interesting....
     A  A > If the compressor is "oil locked", I wonder how does spinning
     about
     A  A 30 times
     A  A > in 1/2 second, cut it off for 1/2 second, before doing it
     again
     A  A actually
     A  A > helps.
     A  A >
     A  A > -----Original Message-----

   A  A > From: DeTomaso [[2]mailto:[8]detomaso-bounces@
   server.detomasolist.com]
   A  A On Behalf
   A  A > Of Jerry Knotts
   A  A > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 22:06 PM
   A  A > To: DeTomaso list new
   A  A > Subject: [DeTomaso] What says the 'Collective' about a 'Slugger'
   A  A >
   A  A > Have been having trouble with my air in my LS powered RX-7.A
   A I have
   A  A > been through 3 different mechanics and compressors in the last 2
   A  A years.
   A  A > A good friend and retired mechanic mentioned the other day I
   might
   A  A want to
   A  A > look into a 'Slugger' in conjunction with my next compressor and
   A  A dryer
   A  A > install.A  A 'Slugger' is a small electronic device to vary the
   ground
   A  A and
   A  A > applied voltage to a compressor on initial start of the
   compressor.
   A  A He
   A  A > claims that the oil will build up and drain back into a low
   mounted
   A  A a/c
   A  A > compressor after it sits idle for a while.A  The same location
   as a GM
   A  A LS
   A  A > install and also a Pantera.
   A  A >
   A  A > Was wondering if anyone had used one of these devices and if it
   has
   A  A been
   A  A > successful or not?
   A  A >
   A  A > Have had consistent problems with the air in the 'P' cars but
   hasn't
   A  A been
   A  A > attributable to the compressor.
   A  A >
   A  A >
   A  A > They are only about 35 bucks on e-play, so I am thinking about
   trying
   A  A to
   A  A > save the valves in the new compressor.
   A  A >
   A  A > Just wondering?
   A  A >
   A  A > jerry knotts
   A  A >
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