[DeTomaso] Techno question: setting the engine brace bar properly
cengles at cox.net
cengles at cox.net
Fri Apr 21 08:16:17 EDT 2017
Dear Mike,
Ahem? Full Disclosure?
I had the stock exhaust manifold and after my first rebuild of
that engine (circa 2003?) bought a set of used Hall Big Bore Headers,
which I spiffed up and had ceramic coated. The HBB bolted up nicely to
my stock exhaust, which I had coated at the same time. Voila. I
perfectly serviceable, although not optimal exhaust system.
During the current engine build, I bought the exhaust portion of
the HBB system. For this iteration, I will use the HBB system, which is
now complete.
At this point the project is about 95% done. This weekend I
expect to fabricate some custom spark plug wires. Maybe it will be on
the ground and running by Sunday evening.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:23 AM, Mike Drew wrote:
> Chuck,
>
> I should have asked this question earlier--why are you running the
> stock exhaust system? Or do you have Hall headers with the stock
> mufflers?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Apr 21, 2017, at 11:50, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Bill,
>>
>>
>>
>> After I thrashed around, I found a old guy (my
>> age!)
>> who was the owner-operator of an old school muffler shop. I took
>> my
>> headers and he went in a back room and came out with exactly what I
>> wanted, but about 1/16" too big. I settled for slightly different
>> exhaust donut. He told me of a nearby parts store that had a lot
>> of
>> exhaust gaskets and I went over. I bought a different pair of
>> gaskets
>> that looked like they would work.
>>
>>
>> Back home I proceed to check the fitment with the
>> headers and exhaust. As I was rummaging around......what should I
>> find, but the missing gaskets that have worked for fifteen years!
>> I
>> had squirreled them away from myself. Sigh.
>>
>>
>> I proceeded to check the internal diameters of the
>> old
>> gaskets and the new ones. The old ones were a little smaller than
>> the
>> exhaust I.D. but they fit better than the larger, newer gaskets
>> that
>> looked like a less optimal seal at the junction.
>>
>>
>> So, I blew twenty dollars on two pairs of donut
>> exhaust gaskets that don't fit as well as my old ones. The old
>> ones
>> are in place and the exhaust system is in place on the engine and
>> in
>> the Pantera. A happy ending in my book until I fire up the engine
>> and
>> start the debugging process.......but it is *always something*.
>>
>>
>> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: bill at incendium.com [mailto:bill at incendium.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:11 PM
>> To: Charles Engles; 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.';
>> detomaso at detomasolist.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: setting the engine brace
>> bar
>> properly
>>
>>
>> What about the exhaust system gaskets, what was the outcome ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Bill Moore
>>
>> Calgary
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>>
>> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
>>
>> Date: 2017-04-20 8:05 PM (GMT-07:00)
>>
>> To: "'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.'" <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>,
>> detomaso at detomasolist.com
>>
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: setting the engine brace
>> bar
>> properly
>>
>>
>> Dear Joe,
>> That is *way* too serious.
>> Dr. Reality, Chuck Engles
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 2:03 PM
>> To: detomaso at detomasolist.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: setting the engine brace
>> bar
>> properly
>> I assume that setting the upper shock bracket centers for 800mm +/-
>> 2mm
>> is
>> taking things to serious?
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 14:20 PM
>> To: cengles at cox.net
>> Cc: detomaso
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: setting the engine brace
>> bar
>> properly
>> Chuck,
>> You're close. Jack the car so the rear wheels are off the ground.
>> Install
>> bar and extend it so it is snug, pressing outward on both sides.
>> Tighten
>> everything down then lower the car....
>> Cheers!
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 23:28, [1]cengles at cox.net wrote:
>>> Dear Forum,
>>>
>>> After almost two years on the engine project, I am
>> about
>>> ready for the Pantera's tires to touch the ground again. IIRC, the
>>> proper tension on the engine brace bar(s) is done by loosening the
>>> brace bar and then lowering the Pantera onto the ground. Then with
>> the
>>> suspension loaded, the brace bar(s) are tightened down. The brace
>>> bar(s) with the central adjusting tension nut are made gently snug.
>>> Then you're done.
>>>
>>> Is that correct?
>>>
>>> Just checking, Chuck Engles
>>>
>>> PS: Bar(s) means exactly the big square steel brace with the
>> central
>>> adjusting nut plus an accessory smaller brace mounted lower and
>> behind
>>> the normal brace, just over the top of the ZF. {full disclosure}
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