[DeTomaso] Techno question: setting the engine brace bar properly

Mike Drew MikeLDrew at aol.com
Fri Apr 21 03:23:25 EDT 2017


Chuck,

I should have asked this question earlier--why are you running the stock exhaust system? Or do you have Hall headers with the stock mufflers?

Mike

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> On Apr 21, 2017, at 11:50, Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
> 
>   Dear Bill,
> 
> 
> 
>                    After I thrashed around, I found a old guy (my age!)
>   who was the owner-operator of an old school muffler shop.   I took my
>   headers and he went in a back room and came out with exactly what I
>   wanted, but about 1/16" too big.  I settled for slightly different
>   exhaust donut.   He told me of a nearby parts store that had a lot of
>   exhaust gaskets and I went over.  I bought a different pair of gaskets
>   that looked like they would work.
> 
> 
>                    Back home I proceed to check the fitment with the
>   headers and exhaust.  As I was rummaging around......what should I
>   find, but the missing gaskets that have worked for fifteen years!   I
>   had squirreled them away from myself.  Sigh.
> 
> 
>                    I proceeded to check the internal diameters of the old
>   gaskets and the new ones. The old ones were a little smaller than the
>   exhaust I.D. but they fit better than the larger, newer gaskets that
>   looked like a less optimal seal at the junction.
> 
> 
>                     So, I blew twenty dollars on two pairs of donut
>   exhaust gaskets that don't fit as well as my old ones.  The old ones
>   are in place and the exhaust system is in place on the engine and in
>   the Pantera.  A happy ending in my book until I fire up the engine and
>   start the debugging process.......but it is *always something*.
> 
> 
>                             Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   From: bill at incendium.com [mailto:bill at incendium.com]
>   Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:11 PM
>   To: Charles Engles; 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.'; detomaso at detomasolist.com
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: setting the engine brace bar
>   properly
> 
> 
>   What about the exhaust system gaskets, what was the outcome ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Cheers
> 
>   Bill Moore
> 
>   Calgary
> 
> 
>   -------- Original message --------
> 
>   From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> 
>   Date: 2017-04-20 8:05 PM (GMT-07:00)
> 
>   To: "'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.'" <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>,
>   detomaso at detomasolist.com
> 
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: setting the engine brace bar
>   properly
> 
> 
>   Dear Joe,
>                      That is *way* too serious.
>                                   Dr. Reality,  Chuck Engles
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>   Behalf
>   Of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
>   Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 2:03 PM
>   To: detomaso at detomasolist.com
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: setting the engine brace bar
>   properly
>   I assume that setting the upper shock bracket centers for 800mm +/- 2mm
>   is
>   taking things to serious?
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>   Behalf
>   Of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>   Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 14:20 PM
>   To: cengles at cox.net
>   Cc: detomaso
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Techno question: setting the engine brace bar
>   properly
>   Chuck,
>   You're close. Jack the car so the rear wheels are off the ground.
>   Install
>   bar and extend it so it is snug, pressing outward on both sides.
>   Tighten
>   everything down then lower the car....
>   Cheers!
>   Mike
>   Sent from my iPhone
>>   On Apr 20, 2017, at 23:28, [1]cengles at cox.net wrote:
>>  Dear Forum,
>> 
>>              After almost two years on the engine project, I am
>   about
>>  ready for the Pantera's tires to touch the ground again.  IIRC, the
>>  proper tension on the engine brace bar(s) is done by loosening the
>>  brace bar and then lowering the Pantera onto the ground.  Then with
>   the
>>  suspension loaded, the brace bar(s) are tightened down.  The brace
>>  bar(s) with the central adjusting tension nut are made gently snug.
>>  Then you're done.
>> 
>>             Is that correct?
>> 
>>                  Just checking,  Chuck Engles
>> 
>>  PS:  Bar(s) means exactly the big square steel brace with the
>   central
>>  adjusting nut plus an accessory smaller brace mounted lower and
>   behind
>>  the normal brace, just over the top of the ZF.  {full disclosure}
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