[DeTomaso] Steering wheel shimmy

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Wed Apr 19 17:43:39 EDT 2017


I have 17 " campy clones from Bob Byars, 5 years ago. Been to 150 MPH (maybe not smart) no problem.. 



CheersBill MooreCalgary 
-------- Original message --------From: Thomas Törnblom <thomas at hax.se> Date: 2017-04-19  5:30 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: jderyke at aol.com Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, tbaranek at earthlink.net Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Steering wheel shimmy 
A Swedish owner bought new PE wheels several years ago, I believe they were manufactured by Boyd Coddington. They were quite untrue and I would not have been happy if it were my wheels. Not sure if he got the issue sorted or not.

Thomas

> 19 apr. 2017 kl. 22:10 skrev Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
> 
>    The small amount of caster possible (-2.5 degrees negative) in a
>   Pantera with an all-stock front end can induce shimmy or road wander.
>   If this is what's causing the nervousness, its a function of tire
>   inflation pressure, width & rubber compliance, road surface and maybe a
>   little wear in ball joints and the rack bushing. With around -4 degrees
>   negative, nervousness disappears on most cars with big tires. Some may
>   call this a 'mask', not a fix, but it often cures the problem. You can
>   easily check the whole assembly for 'true' by jacking up one wheel and
>   slowly spinning it with a dial indicator barely touching the sidewall,
>   or the edge of the tread if its not serrated. Good luck, Tom- J Deryke
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Tom Baranek Garage <tbaranek at earthlink.net>
>   To: detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>   Sent: Wed, Apr 19, 2017 11:54 am
>   Subject: [DeTomaso] Steering wheel shimmy
>   On my 1973 Pantera, I replaced the steering rack washer (with the brass
>   one) YEARS ago.
>   The tires/wheels do not feel out of balance and the shimmy in the
>   steering is more pronounced (when it is there) when I turn the
>   wheel/change lanes. Sometimes going straight at highway speeds (and
>   above) the steering wheel is often rock solid/smooth.
>   I have Pantera East 17" Campy replicas and am sure they are true,
>   etc...but I will have them checked. Since the vibration goes away
>   completely (sometimes), I'm thinking it is in the bushings or something
>   like that???
>   Any known/obvious things I should check?
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   I have 17 " campy clones from Bob Byars, 5 years ago. Been to 150 MPH
   (maybe not smart) no problem..

   Cheers

   Bill Moore

   Calgary

   -------- Original message --------
   From: Thomas Toernblom <thomas at hax.se>
   Date: 2017-04-19 5:30 PM (GMT-05:00)
   To: jderyke at aol.com
   Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com, tbaranek at earthlink.net
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Steering wheel shimmy

   A Swedish owner bought new PE wheels several years ago, I believe they
   were manufactured by Boyd Coddington. They were quite untrue and I
   would not have been happy if it were my wheels. Not sure if he got the
   issue sorted or not.
   Thomas
   > 19 apr. 2017 kl. 22:10 skrev Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
   >
   >    The small amount of caster possible (-2.5 degrees negative) in a
   >   Pantera with an all-stock front end can induce shimmy or road
   wander.
   >   If this is what's causing the nervousness, its a function of tire
   >   inflation pressure, width & rubber compliance, road surface and
   maybe a
   >   little wear in ball joints and the rack bushing. With around -4
   degrees
   >   negative, nervousness disappears on most cars with big tires. Some
   may
   >   call this a 'mask', not a fix, but it often cures the problem. You
   can
   >   easily check the whole assembly for 'true' by jacking up one wheel
   and
   >   slowly spinning it with a dial indicator barely touching the
   sidewall,
   >   or the edge of the tread if its not serrated. Good luck, Tom- J
   Deryke
   >   -----Original Message-----
   >   From: Tom Baranek Garage <tbaranek at earthlink.net>
   >   To: detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   >   Sent: Wed, Apr 19, 2017 11:54 am
   >   Subject: [DeTomaso] Steering wheel shimmy
   >   On my 1973 Pantera, I replaced the steering rack washer (with the
   brass
   >   one) YEARS ago.
   >   The tires/wheels do not feel out of balance and the shimmy in the
   >   steering is more pronounced (when it is there) when I turn the
   >   wheel/change lanes. Sometimes going straight at highway speeds (and
   >   above) the steering wheel is often rock solid/smooth.
   >   I have Pantera East 17" Campy replicas and am sure they are true,
   >   etc...but I will have them checked. Since the vibration goes away
   >   completely (sometimes), I'm thinking it is in the bushings or
   something
   >   like that???
   >   Any known/obvious things I should check?
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