[DeTomaso] Some FIA Group 3 brake questions - circa 1973
Thomas Tornblom
thomas at hax.se
Tue Apr 18 02:48:27 EDT 2017
His name is Anders Hellberg, and can be reached at:
anders.hellberg at scuderiadetomaso.se
Den 2017-04-18 kl. 08:05, skrev Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso:
> Steve, the keeper of all things Gr-3 is Anders Hellburg, a POCA member
> in Sweden. His e-mail is <anders.hellburg at scuderiadetomaso.se> He has
> original FIA homologation papers, the Gr- 3 supplementary catalogue of
> parts DeTomaso sold in Europe for Gr-3 club racers and much other info.
> I would get in touch with Anders for real info on just what the FIA
> allowed in 1973. Cheers- J Deryke
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
> To: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> Cc: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Mon, Apr 17, 2017 6:23 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Some FIA Group 3 brake questions - circa 1973
> aAsa Jay,A
> I would love to get set up with Team Pantera too.A Can you help me get
> set up?A It seems everyone has an interest in your car!A
> Truly, after 28 years of racing, I have never seen such a "open" group
> willing to share.A After the last few days, I have become greatly
> relieved to know that I don't have to reinvent anything -- ait is here
> somewhere on one of the Pantera Forums, and if not, just ask.A I am so
> used to rediscovering secrets -- what a unique group this!A Had I know
> this before hand, I would have paid more for the car. A :)
> If you and your son can make the next event, you are welcome to grab a
> helmet and run the Time Trial group with your son.A I am hoping the
> car will surprise you.A We are looking at either the June or August
> SCCA event at PIR, depending on how our list of projects progresses.
> One more question - I am about to pull the trigger on the GTS headers
> and mufflers.A I noticed an aftermarket header in the stack of spares
> that came with the car.A Any idea what it is?
> Regards,A
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
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> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Asa Jay Laughton
> <[3][3]asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
> Yes, its permissible to share a link.A And the Team Pantera Racing web
> site also has a gallery.A It might be cool to post some photos there
> too.A I'd need to set you up with an account.
> Asa
> Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks
> On Apr 17, 2017, at 15:20, Steve Lisa <[4][4]stevelisa at patentit.com>
> wrote:
> I am working on getting some photo's - believe it or not we were busy
> enough that we didn't take any of our own!!! But, among the constant
> parade
> of people gawking, there were a few photographers that stopped by and
> said
> they snapped photo's during practice and qualifying. I am waiting on
> getting some emails.
> Again, I am new to this process, but I have a dropbox folder that I am
> keeping of the build, beginning after Asa Jay dropped 5533 off in
> Portland
> last year. I am not anxious to make it uber-public, but I would happily
> share it with the forum. Is that allowed?
> Regards,
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
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> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Larry - Ohio Time
> <[12][8]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
> wrote:
> Steve the only things you did wrong was not to post sooner and not
> to post
> photos of your race. :-)
> Welcome
> Larry - Cleveland
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> On
> Behalf Of Steve Lisa
> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 5:59 PM
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> Subject: [DeTomaso] Some FIA Group 3 brake questions - circa 1973
> This is my first post, so I hope I get it right. Let me know if I
> broke
> etiquette.
> So, we confirmed this weekend running in the Oregon SCCA Vintage
> group at
> PIR, that the original Pantera brakes are indeed lacking. Aside from
> brake
> issues, Asa Jay's old car ran well.
> The issue is that I am required to run the stock front and rear
> calipers if
> I want the car to be "dated" under the FIA Group 3 rules as of
> "1973." As
> best I can tell (and maybe I am wrong), the "big" calipers were not
> approved in Group 3 until 1974. However, it also appears, as best I
> can
> tell, that the 1973 FIA Group 3 rules allowed vented front and rear
> rotors
> in place of the original non-vented rotors. Unfortunately, slotted
> rotors
> are not allowed.
> I happily just bought two sets of Mike Drew's recently sourced
> vented/slotted rotors, which I will run on the front for now. Except
> for
> snooty events, there will be no issues doing so. But, I have a few
> questions for the experts here about some longer term concerns:
> 1. I eventually need to find vented but non-slotted front and rear
> rotors for the Pantera, as close as possible to what was run in the
> FIA
> Group 3 in 1973. Any ideas on where to find vented front and rear
> rotors
> that are equivalent to the 1973 FIA Group s rotors?
> 2. I would like something improved in place of the stock rear rotors
> while I am sourcing the proper vented rotors circa 1973. Any ideas?
> 3. What are the best race front and rear pads to run in the original
> calipers, and where do we get them? I am guessing Porterfield?
> Also, I want to again thank all those that tried to help us out last
> weekend when the Booster failed.
> Regards,
> S
> ateve Lisaa
> SN 5533
> Steve Lisa
> SN 5533
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