[DeTomaso] 351C Engine Weight Savings

Will Kooiman will.kooiman at gmail.com
Thu Sep 29 13:09:07 EDT 2016 

I think someone else already said this,...

Jack did an excellent analysis of weight savings.  It's a lot harder than you would think.


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> On Sep 22, 2016, at 12:56 PM, LSJ <lashdeep at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Will, thank you for the stock block weight.
> 
> So there is an approx. 46 lbs reduction for the aluminum block.
> 70 lbs for Al heads?
> 20-30 lbs for Al intake?
> 
> Maybe another 30lbs saved with Al water pump, Al timing cover, smaller Al air cleaner, switch to headers, Al valve covers, etc.
> 
> Maybe more?
> 
> We're getting to 200lbs pretty quickly.
> 
> Swap to a Lithium battery (minus 35lbs), one piece race seats (minus 40 lbs),  and back to Magnesium wheels (minus 40lbs) and there is probably a lot more that can be done without really being noticeable (except the seats)?
> 
> Is there potentially 300lbs that can be taken out of an otherwise completely stock looking Pantera?
>  
> LSJ
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> 
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: JFFR <pantera at vtc.net>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 351C Engine Weight Savings
> 
> A bare stock block isn¹t heavy.
> 
> I weighed mine.  I believe it was something like 162 lbs.
> 
> That¹s obviously more than an aluminum block, but I doubt you¹d notice it
> with the seat-of-the-pants dyno.
> 
> On 9/20/16, 9:14 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of JFFR"
> <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of pantera at vtc.net>
> wrote:
> 
> >I believe that a bare 9.2 deck Fontana aluminum block weighs 116 pounds
> >according to Jack Deryke. I didn't take the time to weigh mine before
> >the engine was built, but a bare Fontana block is very light.
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   I think someone else already said this,...

   Jack did an excellent analysis of weight savings.  It's a lot harder
   than you would think.

   Sent from my iPhone

   On Sep 22, 2016, at 12:56 PM, LSJ <[1]lashdeep at yahoo.com> wrote:

   Will, thank you for the stock block weight.
   So there is an approx. 46 lbs reduction for the aluminum block.
   70 lbs for Al heads?
   20-30 lbs for Al intake?
   Maybe another 30lbs saved with Al water pump, Al timing cover, smaller
   Al air cleaner, switch to headers, Al valve covers, etc.
   Maybe more?
   We're getting to 200lbs pretty quickly.
   Swap to a Lithium battery (minus 35lbs), one piece race seats (minus 40
   lbs),  and back to Magnesium wheels (minus 40lbs) and there is probably
   a lot more that can be done without really being noticeable (except the
   seats)?
   Is there potentially 300lbs that can be taken out of an otherwise
   completely stock looking Pantera?

   LSJ
   central
   wines-spirits   est 1934
   625 e street nw
   washington, dc 20004
   [2]centralwines.com
   [3]facebook.com/CentralLiquors
   202-737-2800
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   From: Will Kooiman <[4]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   To: JFFR <[5]pantera at vtc.net>; [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:14 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 351C Engine Weight Savings
   A bare stock block isn^1t heavy.
   I weighed mine.  I believe it was something like 162 lbs.
   That^1s obviously more than an aluminum block, but I doubt you^1d
   notice it
   with the seat-of-the-pants dyno.
   On 9/20/16, 9:14 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of JFFR"
   <[7]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
   [8]pantera at vtc.net>
   wrote:
   >I believe that a bare 9.2 deck Fontana aluminum block weighs 116
   pounds
   >according to Jack Deryke. I didn't take the time to weigh mine before
   >the engine was built, but a bare Fontana block is very light.
   >
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