[DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
byrdjf at embarqmail.com
Tue Sep 20 22:54:12 EDT 2016
I tied to watch that eposide on my computer (very bad sound). But I KNOW what that “scoop” is now. The Gas Monkey’s tongue!
I did learn something of value, six guys can carry the body.
Joe/NC
From: Ken Green [mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 16:59 PM
To: Jack Donahue; Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
exploding zit?
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From: Jack Donahue <demongusta at gmail.com>
To: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
Cc: "detomaso at server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
“Blindspot” would work
> On Sep 20, 2016, at 9:50 AM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> Technically, what should it be called? A "sail" sounds too polite.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
> Of Jack Donahue
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 12:04 PM
> To: Asa Jay Laughton
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
>
> And the rearview mirror must work good too. LOL
>
>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 8:55 AM, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>>
>> Staying at Mad Dog's place in Fresno after the Silver State Classic
> Challenge and we watched this episode last night.
>>
>> Mike, you hit it on the head. I went to bed last night mulling over
> nearly all the same points. I thought the install of the Ecoboost actually
> looked pretty good, but butchering the decklid only to feed hot air from the
> engine into the intercooler was really dumb. It was obvious they had no
> idea of the airflow in a Pantera and that became a real detriment to their
> work.
>>
>> I agree, I don't think it will sell very well at all. If they had done
> something different with the intercooler so they didn't have to butcher the
> decklid, I think it might have been a much better and more appealing build.
> However, I still think even then, it's not going to get near what they were
> thinking.
>>
>> I was actually disappointed in the show overall.
>> Asa Jay
>>
>>
>> Quoting Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Just saw the second show.
>>>
>>> What is hilarious is that they didn't make it a sealed air intake from
> the roof to the inter cooler. It's basically just a piece of metal tacked to
> the decklid. These morons didn't even consider that airflow goes from the
> bottom past the engine and out the top, so their scoop is designed to
> capture superheated air and duct it to the intercooler!!!!!
>>>
>>> They said they thought somebody would pay $200-300k for it. Yet as
> auction time drew near perhaps they started to realize how dumb they were.
> They finished it late, understandable enough. They could always have entered
> it in the next BJ auction? But at the end of the show, there is no talk of
> that. Instead there is whimpering, saying he has $100k tied up in it and
> begging somebody to call him and buy it.
>>>
>>> Jeff--I dare you to drive down there in your stock-looking white L model,
> act interested, then ask them what it would take to return it to stock! Tell
> them as a stock car it might be worth $70-75k but as it stands, all the
> modifications have hurt the value by the cost it will take to undo them!
>>>
>>> It's probably worth $30-40k if the stock engine, and all other parts
>>> are included? :)
>>>
>>> I love the brakes though. Nice job with that Scott. :)
>>>
>>> I grudgingly admit that the power train swap appears to have been largely
> successful and it certainly is innovative. I seriously doubt they saved an
> ounce of weight when you factor in the weight of all the turbos,
> intercooler, electronics, massive wheels etc so in fact it's probably
> heavier than stock too.
>>>
>>> In the beginning they were claiming 600 hp was the target. Notice how
> quiet things got at the end? No boasting of big power numbers. You only need
> 200 hp to do donuts so that doesn't prove anything. It would be interesting
> to learn what they actually achieved--other than wrecking what would have
> been a lovely Pantera had it been restored, or even modified to GT5 or GT5-S
> or something....
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 17:20, Ken Green via DeTomaso
> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Finally watched it. I think the air scoop for the inter cooler is
>>>> overkill. The could use an air to water heat exchanger and cycle
>>>> coolant to the nose.
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________________________
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>>>> From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>>>> To: 'Scott Bell' <scott at saccrestorations.net>;
>>>> rfmccall at comcast.net; "'Byrd, Joseph'" <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
>>>> Cc: 'Pantera Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 5:13 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud - orange Pantera?
>>>> Did anybody notice in the background early in the episode what
>>>> looks like an orange Pantera in the background? And what's with
>>>> the Ferrari sitting in a number of shots?
>>>> Mike T.
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>>>> On Behalf Of Scott Bell
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:18 PM
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>>>> Cc: 'Pantera Mail List' <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Hi Ron, I don't
>>>> know when the car was purchased but I know the build happened in
>>>> March of 2016. Given that these shows take time to put together, I
>>>> would guess they had the car well before the build started. Good
>>>> observation!
>>>> Scott
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[5]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>>>> On Behalf Of [6]rfmccall at comcast.net
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 6:13 PM
>>>> To: Byrd, Joseph
>>>> Cc: Pantera Mail List
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Something that I
>>>> found interesting is that while I was watching a re-run of what my
>>>> DVR says is Episode 6/Season 6( which is the first part of the Ford
>>>> GT build) and sure enough, the exact same white '72 Pantera in in
>>>> the background in several of the shots. The show made it seem like
>>>> they bought the car and started the build a few weeks later.
>>>> The Ford GT episode aired nearly a year ago so who knows when that
>>>> build was filmed much less how long ago the Pantera was bought. That
>>>> could explain the low purchase price.
>>>> Ron
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>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 4:12:31 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud During the design
>>>> stage, air flow to the engine was considered.
>>>> I read there was a concern about having an air exit similar to the
>>>> Mangusta because it would afrost overa and block flow
>>>> cid:[9]image001.png at 01D18958.40377A40
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: DeTomaso
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>>>> Larry Stock
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 15:22 PM
>>>> To: Ken Green; [11]rfmccall at comcast.net; gaino, bill
>>>> Cc: Email List Address For Posting; Larry Finch
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Since there is no
>>>> real air flow around where they placed the After Cooler, Maybe the
>>>> air scoop is to create air flow to the after cooler and NOT the
>>>> engine, I would simply use electric fans for this, but they ARE the
>>>> Texas TV Experts, and I guess thatA^1s the way its done in Texas.
>>>> Maybe our Pantera Boys in Texas need to give them some help here.
>>>> Since they also eliminated the trunk storage area, they must not
>>>> see the need get out much.
>>>> Larry
>>>> On 9/14/16, 12:00 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso"
>>>> <
>>>>
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>>>> [15]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>>>> Getting cool air to the engine seems to be a difficult issue for a
>>>>> Pantera if you don't want to alter the looks. Has anyone seen a
>>>>> solution that doesn't look like an after thought?
>>>>> Ken
>>>>> __________________________________________________________________
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>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:12 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Here is a pic from
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>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud The scoop looks like
>>>>> it feeds the ZF.. Fugly Bill 1362 [4]
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>>>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am resending this screen capture from last nightas show, as my
>>>>> previous post seems to have lost its subject line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please don't shoot the messenger.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since Richard liked the Nike interior disaster on the Ring
>>>>>> Brothers
>>>>> hack-job (at least enough to buy the thing), I imagine they will
>>>>> F-up the interior of this Pantera to match their exterior
>>>>> disfigurement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am especially enamored with the tasteful deck lid cut-out
>>>>> necessitated by the taller 3.5L V6.
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I tied to watch that eposide on my computer (very bad sound). But I
KNOW what that "scoop" is now. The Gas Monkey's tongue!
I did learn something of value, six guys can carry the body.
Joe/NC
From: Ken Green [mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 16:59 PM
To: Jack Donahue; Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
exploding zit?
_______________________________________________________________________
From: Jack Donahue <[1]demongusta at gmail.com>
To: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <[2]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
Cc: "[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com"
<[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
"Blindspot" would work
> On Sep 20, 2016, at 9:50 AM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
<[5]byrdjf at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> Technically, what should it be called? A "sail" sounds too polite.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[6]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On Behalf
> Of Jack Donahue
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 12:04 PM
> To: Asa Jay Laughton
> Cc: [7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
>
> And the rearview mirror must work good too. LOL
>
>> On Sep 20, 2016, at 8:55 AM, Asa Jay Laughton <[8]asajay at asajay.com>
wrote:
>>
>> Staying at Mad Dog's place in Fresno after the Silver State Classic
> Challenge and we watched this episode last night.
>>
>> Mike, you hit it on the head. I went to bed last night mulling over
> nearly all the same points. I thought the install of the Ecoboost
actually
> looked pretty good, but butchering the decklid only to feed hot air
from the
> engine into the intercooler was really dumb. It was obvious they had
no
> idea of the airflow in a Pantera and that became a real detriment to
their
> work.
>>
>> I agree, I don't think it will sell very well at all. If they had
done
> something different with the intercooler so they didn't have to
butcher the
> decklid, I think it might have been a much better and more appealing
build.
> However, I still think even then, it's not going to get near what
they were
> thinking.
>>
>> I was actually disappointed in the show overall.
>> Asa Jay
>>
>>
>> Quoting Mike Drew via DeTomaso
<[9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Just saw the second show.
>>>
>>> What is hilarious is that they didn't make it a sealed air intake
from
> the roof to the inter cooler. It's basically just a piece of metal
tacked to
> the decklid. These morons didn't even consider that airflow goes from
the
> bottom past the engine and out the top, so their scoop is designed to
> capture superheated air and duct it to the intercooler!!!!!
>>>
>>> They said they thought somebody would pay $200-300k for it. Yet as
> auction time drew near perhaps they started to realize how dumb they
were.
> They finished it late, understandable enough. They could always have
entered
> it in the next BJ auction? But at the end of the show, there is no
talk of
> that. Instead there is whimpering, saying he has $100k tied up in it
and
> begging somebody to call him and buy it.
>>>
>>> Jeff--I dare you to drive down there in your stock-looking white L
model,
> act interested, then ask them what it would take to return it to
stock! Tell
> them as a stock car it might be worth $70-75k but as it stands, all
the
> modifications have hurt the value by the cost it will take to undo
them!
>>>
>>> It's probably worth $30-40k if the stock engine, and all other
parts
>>> are included? :)
>>>
>>> I love the brakes though. Nice job with that Scott. :)
>>>
>>> I grudgingly admit that the power train swap appears to have been
largely
> successful and it certainly is innovative. I seriously doubt they
saved an
> ounce of weight when you factor in the weight of all the turbos,
> intercooler, electronics, massive wheels etc so in fact it's probably
> heavier than stock too.
>>>
>>> In the beginning they were claiming 600 hp was the target. Notice
how
> quiet things got at the end? No boasting of big power numbers. You
only need
> 200 hp to do donuts so that doesn't prove anything. It would be
interesting
> to learn what they actually achieved--other than wrecking what would
have
> been a lovely Pantera had it been restored, or even modified to GT5
or GT5-S
> or something....
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 17:20, Ken Green via DeTomaso
> <[10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Finally watched it. I think the air scoop for the inter cooler
is
>>>> overkill. The could use an air to water heat exchanger and cycle
>>>> coolant to the nose.
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> From: Mike Thomas <[11]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>>>> To: 'Scott Bell' <[12]scott at saccrestorations.net>;
>>>> [13]rfmccall at comcast.net; "'Byrd, Joseph'"
<[14]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
>>>> Cc: 'Pantera Mail List' <[15]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 5:13 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud - orange Pantera?
>>>> Did anybody notice in the background early in the episode what
>>>> looks like an orange Pantera in the background? And what's with
>>>> the Ferrari sitting in a number of shots?
>>>> Mike T.
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: DeTomaso
[mailto:[1][16]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>>>> On Behalf Of Scott Bell
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:18 PM
>>>> To: [2][17]rfmccall at comcast.net; 'Byrd, Joseph'
>>>> <[3][18]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
>>>> Cc: 'Pantera Mail List' <[4][19]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Hi Ron, I don't
>>>> know when the car was purchased but I know the build happened in
>>>> March of 2016. Given that these shows take time to put together,
I
>>>> would guess they had the car well before the build started. Good
>>>> observation!
>>>> Scott
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: DeTomaso
[mailto:[5][20]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>>>> On Behalf Of [6][21]rfmccall at comcast.net
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 6:13 PM
>>>> To: Byrd, Joseph
>>>> Cc: Pantera Mail List
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Something that I
>>>> found interesting is that while I was watching a re-run of what
my
>>>> DVR says is Episode 6/Season 6( which is the first part of the
Ford
>>>> GT build) and sure enough, the exact same white '72 Pantera in in
>>>> the background in several of the shots. The show made it seem
like
>>>> they bought the car and started the build a few weeks later.
>>>> The Ford GT episode aired nearly a year ago so who knows when
that
>>>> build was filmed much less how long ago the Pantera was bought.
That
>>>> could explain the low purchase price.
>>>> Ron
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <[7][22]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
>>>> To: "Pantera Mail List" <[8][23]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 4:12:31 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud During the design
>>>> stage, air flow to the engine was considered.
>>>> I read there was a concern about having an air exit similar to
the
>>>> Mangusta because it would afrost overa and block flow
>>>> cid:[9][24]image001.png at 01D18958.40377A40
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: DeTomaso
>>>> [mailto:[10][25]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf Of
>>>> Larry Stock
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 15:22 PM
>>>> To: Ken Green; [11][26]rfmccall at comcast.net; gaino, bill
>>>> Cc: Email List Address For Posting; Larry Finch
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Since there is no
>>>> real air flow around where they placed the After Cooler, Maybe
the
>>>> air scoop is to create air flow to the after cooler and NOT the
>>>> engine, I would simply use electric fans for this, but they ARE
the
>>>> Texas TV Experts, and I guess thatA^1s the way its done in Texas.
>>>> Maybe our Pantera Boys in Texas need to give them some help here.
>>>> Since they also eliminated the trunk storage area, they must not
>>>> see the need get out much.
>>>> Larry
>>>> On 9/14/16, 12:00 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via
DeTomaso"
>>>> <
>>>>
>>>>
<mailto:[12][27]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com%20on%20behalf%
2
>>>> 0of
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>>>> [14][29]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
>>>> [15][30]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>>>> Getting cool air to the engine seems to be a difficult issue for
a
>>>>> Pantera if you don't want to alter the looks. Has anyone seen a
>>>>> solution that doesn't look like an after thought?
>>>>> Ken
>>>>>
__________________________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> From: " <mailto:[16][31]rfmccall at comcast.net>
[17][32]rfmccall at comcast.net"
>>>> <
>>>> <mailto:[18][33]rfmccall at comcast.net>
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>>>>> Cc: Email List Address For Posting <
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>>>>> Larry Finch < <mailto:[24][39]fresnofinches at aol.com>
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>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:12 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Here is a pic from
>>>>> FB.
>>>>> Ron
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>>>> [27][42]gaino at earthlink.net>
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>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 1:41:18 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud The scoop looks
like
>>>>> it feeds the ZF.. Fugly Bill 1362 [4]
>>>>
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>>>>>> From: Larry Finch via DeTomaso <[5]
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>>>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am resending this screen capture from last nightas show, as my
>>>>> previous post seems to have lost its subject line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please don't shoot the messenger.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since Richard liked the Nike interior disaster on the Ring
>>>>>> Brothers
>>>>> hack-job (at least enough to buy the thing), I imagine they will
>>>>> F-up the interior of this Pantera to match their exterior
>>>>> disfigurement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am especially enamored with the tasteful deck lid cut-out
>>>>> necessitated by the taller 3.5L V6.
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