[DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud - orange Pantera?

Ken Green kenn_green at yahoo.com
Mon Sep 19 20:20:47 EDT 2016


Finally watched it.  I think the air scoop for the inter cooler is overkill.  The could use an air to water heat exchanger and cycle coolant to the nose.
Ken


      From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
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Did anybody notice in the background early in the episode what looks like an orange Pantera in the background?  And what's with the Ferrari sitting in a number of shots?

Mike T.

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Hi Ron,

I don't know when the car was purchased but I know the build happened in March of 2016. Given that these shows take time to put together, I would guess they had the car well before the build started. Good observation!

Scott

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Something that I found interesting is that while I was watching a re-run of what my DVR says is Episode 6/Season 6( which is the first part of the Ford GT build) and sure enough, the exact same white '72 Pantera in in the background in several of the shots. The show made it seem like they bought the car and started the build a few weeks later. The Ford GT episode aired nearly a year ago so who knows when that build was filmed much less how long ago the Pantera was bought. That could explain the low purchase price. 


Ron



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During the design stage, air flow to the engine was considered.  

I read there was a concern about having an air exit similar to the Mangusta because it would “frost over” and block flow

 

 

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Since there is no real air flow around where they placed the After Cooler, Maybe the air scoop is to create air flow to the after cooler and NOT the engine, I would simply use electric fans for this, but they ARE the Texas TV Experts, and I guess that¹s the way its done in Texas. Maybe our Pantera Boys in Texas need to give them some help here. Since they also eliminated the trunk storage area, they must not see the need get out much.

Larry

 

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   Finally watched it.  I think the air scoop for the inter cooler is
   overkill.  The could use an air to water heat exchanger and cycle
   coolant to the nose.
   Ken
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
   To: 'Scott Bell' <scott at saccrestorations.net>; rfmccall at comcast.net;
   "'Byrd, Joseph'" <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
   Cc: 'Pantera Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 5:13 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud - orange Pantera?
   Did anybody notice in the background early in the episode what looks
   like an orange Pantera in the background?  And what's with the Ferrari
   sitting in a number of shots?
   Mike T.
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf Of Scott Bell
   Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:18 PM
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   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
   Hi Ron,
   I don't know when the car was purchased but I know the build happened
   in March of 2016. Given that these shows take time to put together, I
   would guess they had the car well before the build started. Good
   observation!
   Scott
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   Behalf Of [6]rfmccall at comcast.net
   Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 6:13 PM
   To: Byrd, Joseph
   Cc: Pantera Mail List
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
   Something that I found interesting is that while I was watching a
   re-run of what my DVR says is Episode 6/Season 6( which is the first
   part of the Ford GT build) and sure enough, the exact same white '72
   Pantera in in the background in several of the shots. The show made it
   seem like they bought the car and started the build a few weeks later.
   The Ford GT episode aired nearly a year ago so who knows when that
   build was filmed much less how long ago the Pantera was bought. That
   could explain the low purchase price.
   Ron
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   To: "Pantera Mail List" <[8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 4:12:31 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
   During the design stage, air flow to the engine was considered.
   I read there was a concern about having an air exit similar to the
   Mangusta because it would afrost overa and block flow
   cid:[9]image001.png at 01D18958.40377A40
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   Behalf Of Larry Stock
   Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 15:22 PM
   To: Ken Green; [11]rfmccall at comcast.net; gaino, bill
   Cc: Email List Address For Posting; Larry Finch
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
   Since there is no real air flow around where they placed the After
   Cooler, Maybe the air scoop is to create air flow to the after cooler
   and NOT the engine, I would simply use electric fans for this, but they
   ARE the Texas TV Experts, and I guess thatA^1s the way its done in
   Texas. Maybe our Pantera Boys in Texas need to give them some help
   here. Since they also eliminated the trunk storage area, they must not
   see the need get out much.
   Larry
   On 9/14/16, 12:00 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso"
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   >  Getting cool air to the engine seems to be a difficult issue for a
   >  Pantera if you don't want to alter the looks.  Has anyone seen a
   >  solution that doesn't look like an after thought?
   >  Ken
   >    __________________________________________________________________
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   >  Here is a pic from FB.
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   >  The scoop looks like it feeds the ZF.. Fugly  Bill 1362
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   >  >
   >  >Please don't shoot the messenger.
   >  >
   >  >Since Richard liked the Nike interior disaster on the Ring Brothers
   >  hack-job (at least enough to buy the thing), I imagine they will
   > F-up
   >  the interior of this Pantera to match their exterior disfigurement.
   >  >
   >  >Larry
   >  >
   >  >I am especially enamored with the tasteful deck lid cut-out
   >  necessitated by the taller 3.5L V6.
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