[DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
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Mon Sep 19 18:02:52 EDT 2016
They said they would be going thru the motor before installing it.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Zeedick" <Pantera351C at Hotmail.com>
To: "Tom Shinrock" <tmshinro at aol.com>, byrdjf at embarqmail.com, detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:34:49 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
I think what amazes me the most is that they are stuffing in an engine
with 130K miles in it. To me that makes the car almost worthless, except
for a project to return it to "Pantera Normal". It seems to me they have
no plans to rebuild the motor therefore making it a Pantera wth 130K on
the ticker. Now if it was a band new V6 Twin Turbo that might be a
different storyŠ..
I agreeŠthey stole it from the lady who was selling it
I think they might have failed to do their homework on this one, there are
twin turbo cats out there and lets not forget the Ferrari 288 GTO one
quick look at these cars would have made the job very ³easy²
John²Not to thrilled with the idea but at least it is a Ford Motor²Z
On 9/14/16, 9:33 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Tom Shinrock via DeTomaso"
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>In my 30 years of Pantera ownership and reading any Pantera related
>material I could get my hands on, I have never seen these pictures
>before. Thanks for sharing
>
>
>Tom
>5186
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
>To: 'Pantera Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 3:12 pm
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
>
>During the design stage, air flow to the engine was considered.
>
> I read there was a concern about having an air exit similar to the
> Mangusta because it would "frost over" and block flow
>
>
>
> cid:image001.png at 01D18958.40377A40
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf Of Larry Stock
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 15:22 PM
> To: Ken Green; rfmccall at comcast.net; gaino, bill
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting; Larry Finch
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
>
>
> Since there is no real air flow around where they placed the After
> Cooler, Maybe the air scoop is to create air flow to the after cooler
> and NOT the engine, I would simply use electric fans for this, but they
> ARE the Texas TV Experts, and I guess that^1s the way its done in
> Texas. Maybe our Pantera Boys in Texas need to give them some help
> here. Since they also eliminated the trunk storage area, they must not
> see the need get out much.
>
> Larry
>
>
> On 9/14/16, 12:00 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso"
>
> <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Getting cool air to the engine seems to be a difficult issue for a
>
> > Pantera if you don't want to alter the looks. Has anyone seen a
>
> > solution that doesn't look like an after thought?
>
> > Ken
>
> >
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> >
>
> > From: "[2]rfmccall at comcast.net" <[3]rfmccall at comcast.net>
>
> > To: "gaino, bill" <[4]gaino at earthlink.net>
>
> > Cc: Email List Address For Posting
> <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
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> > Larry Finch <[6]fresnofinches at aol.com>
>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:12 AM
>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
>
> > Here is a pic from FB.
>
> > Ron
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > From: "bill gaino" <[1][7]gaino at earthlink.net>
>
> > To: "Larry Finch" <[2][8]fresnofinches at aol.com>, "Email List
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> > Posting" <[3][9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
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> > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 1:41:18 PM
>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
>
> > The scoop looks like it feeds the ZF.. Fugly Bill 1362
>
> >
> [4][10]https://www.facebook.com/pages/slickpaintcom/129049637149634?ref
> =ts&
>
> > fref=ts
>
> > If you want it slick. [11]www.slickpaint.com like us on facebook
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > >From: Larry Finch via DeTomaso
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> > >Sent: Sep 13, 2016 1:03 PM
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> > >Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
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>
> > >All,
>
> > >
>
> > >I am resending this screen capture from last nightas show, as my
>
> > previous post seems to have lost its subject line.
>
> > >
>
> > >Please don't shoot the messenger.
>
> > >
>
> > >Since Richard liked the Nike interior disaster on the Ring
> Brothers
>
> > hack-job (at least enough to buy the thing), I imagine they will
> F-up
>
> > the interior of this Pantera to match their exterior disfigurement.
>
> > >
>
> > >Larry
>
> > >
>
> > >I am especially enamored with the tasteful deck lid cut-out
>
> > necessitated by the taller 3.5L V6.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
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> 2. mailto:rfmccall at comcast.net
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> 4. mailto:gaino at earthlink.net
> 5. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 6. mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com
> 7. mailto:gaino at earthlink.net
> 8. mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com
> 9. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 10. https://www.facebook.com/pages/slickpaintcom/129049637149634?ref=ts&
> 11. http://www.slickpaint.com/
> 12. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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> 18. mailto:gaino at earthlink.net
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> 20. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 21.
>https://www.facebook.com/pages/slickpaintcom/129049637149634?ref=ts&fre
> 22. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 23. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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They said they would be going thru the motor before installing it.
Steve
__________________________________________________________________
From: "John Zeedick" <Pantera351C at Hotmail.com>
To: "Tom Shinrock" <tmshinro at aol.com>, byrdjf at embarqmail.com,
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:34:49 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
I think what amazes me the most is that they are stuffing in an engine
with 130K miles in it. To me that makes the car almost worthless,
except
for a project to return it to "Pantera Normal". It seems to me they
have
no plans to rebuild the motor therefore making it a Pantera wth 130K on
the ticker. Now if it was a band new V6 Twin Turbo that might be a
different storyAA ..
I agreeAA they stole it from the lady who was selling it
I think they might have failed to do their homework on this one, there
are
twin turbo cats out there and lets not forget the Ferrari 288 GTO one
quick look at these cars would have made the job very A^3easyA^2
JohnA^2Not to thrilled with the idea but at least it is a Ford
MotorA^2Z
On 9/14/16, 9:33 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Tom Shinrock via DeTomaso"
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>In my 30 years of Pantera ownership and reading any Pantera related
>material I could get my hands on, I have never seen these pictures
>before. Thanks for sharing
>
>
>Tom
>5186
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
>To: 'Pantera Mail List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 3:12 pm
>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
>
>During the design stage, air flow to the engine was considered.
>
> I read there was a concern about having an air exit similar to the
> Mangusta because it would "frost over" and block flow
>
>
>
> cid:image001.png at 01D18958.40377A40
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf Of Larry Stock
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 15:22 PM
> To: Ken Green; rfmccall at comcast.net; gaino, bill
> Cc: Email List Address For Posting; Larry Finch
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
>
>
> Since there is no real air flow around where they placed the After
> Cooler, Maybe the air scoop is to create air flow to the after
cooler
> and NOT the engine, I would simply use electric fans for this, but
they
> ARE the Texas TV Experts, and I guess that^1s the way its done in
> Texas. Maybe our Pantera Boys in Texas need to give them some help
> here. Since they also eliminated the trunk storage area, they must
not
> see the need get out much.
>
> Larry
>
>
> On 9/14/16, 12:00 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via
DeTomaso"
>
> <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Getting cool air to the engine seems to be a difficult issue
for a
>
> > Pantera if you don't want to alter the looks. Has anyone seen
a
>
> > solution that doesn't look like an after thought?
>
> > Ken
>
> >
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> >
>
> > From: "[2]rfmccall at comcast.net" <[3]rfmccall at comcast.net>
>
> > To: "gaino, bill" <[4]gaino at earthlink.net>
>
> > Cc: Email List Address For Posting
> <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
>
> > Larry Finch <[6]fresnofinches at aol.com>
>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:12 AM
>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
>
> > Here is a pic from FB.
>
> > Ron
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > From: "bill gaino" <[1][7]gaino at earthlink.net>
>
> > To: "Larry Finch" <[2][8]fresnofinches at aol.com>, "Email List
> Address For
>
> > Posting" <[3][9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 1:41:18 PM
>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
>
> > The scoop looks like it feeds the ZF.. Fugly Bill 1362
>
> >
>
[4][10]https://www.facebook.com/pages/slickpaintcom/129049637149634?ref
> =ts&
>
> > fref=ts
>
> > If you want it slick. [11]www.slickpaint.com like us on
facebook
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > >From: Larry Finch via DeTomaso
> <[5][12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>
> > >Sent: Sep 13, 2016 1:03 PM
>
> > >To: Email List Address For Posting
>
> > <[6][13]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>
> > >Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
>
> > >
>
> > >All,
>
> > >
>
> > >I am resending this screen capture from last nightas show, as
my
>
> > previous post seems to have lost its subject line.
>
> > >
>
> > >Please don't shoot the messenger.
>
> > >
>
> > >Since Richard liked the Nike interior disaster on the Ring
> Brothers
>
> > hack-job (at least enough to buy the thing), I imagine they
will
> F-up
>
> > the interior of this Pantera to match their exterior
disfigurement.
>
> > >
>
> > >Larry
>
> > >
>
> > >I am especially enamored with the tasteful deck lid cut-out
>
> > necessitated by the taller 3.5L V6.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
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>
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>[21]https://www.facebook.com/pages/slickpaintcom/129049637149634?ref=t
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> >f=t
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> 7. mailto:gaino at earthlink.net
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> 9. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> 10.
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